[Bookstoprisoners] Fwd: How get out of seg?

[Brian Dolinar]

Hey BTP folk.

Here is a message from Greg Koger, BTP graduate and former Pontiac inmate.
He is working with a group in Chicago who may be interested in coming to the
BTP conference.

Free 'em all.  BD

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Gregory Koger <gregorykoger at sbcglobal.net>
Date: Jul 13, 2007 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: How get out of seg?
To: Brian Dolinar <briandolinar at gmail.com>, Jackie Coleman <
jackie_prlfund at yahoo.com>
Cc: Gregory Koger <gregorykoger at sbcglobal.net>

Brian,

Yeah, I'm still doing things with the RCP. I obviously don't get out of the
house too much, but since last month my PO set it up so I could go out on
Monday Wednesday and Friday from 8am to 4:30pm, so I've been getting out a
little. Mainly I just goto work with my dad, driving around doing deliveries
. But I got to go down to Chicago for an anti-4th of July picnic in Rogers
Park, and I went swimming in Lake Michigan for a little bit, which was very
nice.
The RCP has a program called the PRLF - Prisoners Revolutionary Literature
Fund - which sends books and newspapers to prisoners, and we've been working
on trying to get it set up legally as a non-profit, so we were wondering if
we could maybe talk to you guys at the UCIMC Books to Prisoners program
about some of the details. I don't really know all of the details of what
they need/want to know, but if you could give me the email address of
someone there we could talk to, that would be cool. Or you could just have
them email Jackie Coleman, who is more knowledgeable about exactly what they
need to know concerning the details. Her email is jackie_prlfund at yahoo.com -
I'm going to CC her a copy of this email so she knows what's up.
We saw you were having a conference on books to prisoners programs, so maybe
I'd be able to get a chance to make it out there...

- Gregory

On Jul 12, 2007, at 7:04 AM, "Brian Dolinar" <briandolinar at gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Greg - good to hear from you.

Happy to hear you're headed to school.
You're too smart and too strong.
I"ve past your email along to my BTP friend.

Staying busy here.
We just raised $8000 for Patrick Thompson's legal defense.
And we have been working on a Police Review Board in Urbana.
But the police union negotiated the teeth out of the proposal.
The community came out and shot it down - said take it back to committee for
teeth back.
Saw Chicago's Mayor Daley and city council are revisiting police review bd
in Chicago.
After Anthony Abbate and other cops got caught on tape
they are looking at complaint/review process.
They found that .2% of cops get any significant discipline when complained
about.
Cops who had 15 complaints still hadn't been disciplined.
Same ol shit.

Well, enjoy the summer.
School will be in session before we know it.

You still working with the communists up there?

BD

On 7/11/07, Gregory Koger < <gregorykoger at sbcglobal.net>
gregorykoger at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>  Brian,
>
>     I was planning on writing you before too much longer. I got signed up
> for the community college out here (College of Lake County) and I start
> classes in August. I'm waiting to find out whats up with this financial aid
> shit...
>     As far as getting out of seg, the IDOC has a process called a
> grievance, but you have to file that within a certain period of time after
> you are sent to seg. You get a disciplinary report (AKA "ticket"), then goto
> a kangaroo court inside the prison called the "adjustment committee"
> consisting of all guards or other prison employees who determine whether to
> find you guilty or not - guess which one it always is? - and then what your
> punishment will be, like how long you have to do in seg. After you get the
> results back from the adjustment committee, you then have a very short
> period of time in which to file a grievance - MAYBE 60 days, but I think it
> may be even less than that. In any case it certainly has to be filed within
> 90 days. So if you say he's been in seg for months, its most likely way past
> time that he would have had to file that grievance. And before you can even
> goto court (state or federal) you have to do what they call "exhaust your
> administrative remedies", which means you have to go through whatever
> bullshit grievance procedures the IDOC has set up. So if you didn't file a
> grievance, then you basically can't even take it to court because the court
> will say you didn't "exhaust your administrative remedies".
>     I mean, there may be some technicality perhaps he could use, but I've
> read numerous cases and known many people personally who have done years and
> years (decades even) in seg and there's really nothing they can do about it.
> The court will basically say that being in seg is just an expected part of
> prison. I can give you some more exact legal information perhaps if I look
> all of it up again, like exact case names, if you want/need me to. But
> really theres not much you can do, especially if you didn't file a grievance
> basically immediately afterwards - and even then, its very hard to win.
> Needless to say, the system is set up specifically so that its nearly
> impossible to challenge any abuses or violations committed by the armed
> enforcers of the State.
>     A nice reference book you guys might like to have on hand there is
> called *Prisoner's Self-Help Litigation Manual*, which gives a lot of
> cases and details about prison-related law.
>     Anyway, I've got the college thing going on, my ultimate objective is
> to get a Ph.D. in Computer Science, but as you well know that is a rather
> long-term goal ;) Hopefully things will go well with that. If you need any
> more details on the seg shit, let me know and I'll try to give you some more
> exact info.
>
> -Gregory
>



-- 
Brian Dolinar, Ph.D.
303 W. Locust St.
Urbana, IL 61801
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-- 
Brian Dolinar, Ph.D.
303 W. Locust St.
Urbana, IL 61801
briandolinar at gmail.com
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