[Bookstoprisoners] Key policy feedback forThursday'sSteeringMeeting?

jamie storm gary_jamie at hotmail.com
Tue Jun 5 09:20:38 CDT 2007


Just back it town, I'm trying to catch up on the many b2p issues and 
discussions.  I, too, use my key to drop in to b2p workspace when I have 
spare time and would not want to lose that flexibility.  Jamie

>From: "Niloofar Shambayati" <Nilu at insightbb.com>
>Reply-To: Niloofar Shambayati <Nilu at insightbb.com>
>To: "Sand and Sea Sells Used Books Etc." <sandncsells at ameritech.net>,"BTP 
>Keystaff" 
><btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net>,<bookstoprisoners at lists.chambana.net>
>Subject: Re: [Bookstoprisoners] Key policy feedback 
>forThursday'sSteeringMeeting?
>Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 20:56:43 -0500
>
>Hello All,
>
>Whatever decision IMC makes, we  should insist on having as many keys as we 
>need. Otherwise our work would be seriously hampered.   Deb's idea makes 
>sense: to have Chris or someone else in charge of vacating the building 
>from non-members and  locking all doors at an specific time. But the key 
>staff need to have access to the building at any hour---April and Noah's 
>concern.  There are others, including Bob and myself, who don't sign up to 
>be key staff but need to have keys.  Signing in and out doesn't resolve any 
>problem because those who potentially pose a threat to the security and a 
>sense of safety most likely don't have keys.  We should also emphasize that 
>what makes IMC such a unique place is that it belongs to the community and 
>needs to remain a welcoming environment. Safety is important but not at the 
>expense of too many restrictions.
>Would anyone be able to join Bill at the steering meeting?
>
>Niloofar
>
>----- Original Message -----
>   From: Sand and Sea Sells Used Books Etc.
>   To: BTP Keystaff ; bookstoprisoners at lists.chambana.net ; Niloofar 
>Shambayati
>   Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:11 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Bookstoprisoners] Key policy feedback for 
>Thursday'sSteeringMeeting?
>
>
>   See my additions in red to Niloofar's points.
>   Deb Sanderson
>   Owner/Buyer
>   Sand and Sea Sells Used Books Etc.
>   www.sandncsells.com
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Niloofar Shambayati
>     To: bookstoprisoners at lists.chambana.net
>     Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:40 PM
>     Subject: Re: [Bookstoprisoners] Key policy feedback for 
>Thursday'sSteering Meeting?
>
>
>     1.Changing the locks and giving out new keys is not a major issue, 
>except that it might prove to be
>        both costly and ineffective. More door bells would also need to be 
>installed at all doors other than the back basement door.
>      2.My concern is about not to have access to enough keys for  our 
>current and future key staff and especially those keystaff that work the 
>jails and need access to the basement and library during NON work session 
>times. We also need all our current (and could use more) keystaff to keep 
>flexibility for staffing work sessions.  Less key access means more hours 
>that will need to be worked by each keystaff.  Rather than once or twice a 
>month they will need to volunteer that on a weekly basis.  This puts too 
>much time demand on our dedicated volunteer keystaff.
>      3. Automatic locks impede our work since we would have to rush to the 
>door each time a volunteer rings
>         the bell. Unless a buzzer system is installed to "buzz" people in 
>using an intercom system similar to those used in apartment buildings.These 
>would have to be on EVERY door. This also would cover #4 below.
>      4. Limiting access to the basement through only one entrance might 
>confuse/discourage
>         new volunteers.
>      5. IMC can keep a list of all key-holders and have us all take an 
>oath. We could also initiate a sign in process upstairs and down with 
>sign-in/sign-out times and dates. This would help with accountability 
>issues.
>
>     It would be good to hear from everyone to be able  to speak with one 
>voice.  Jane, Bob,  April,  Jamie, Noah et al.?
>
>     PAY Chris or whoever a few more hours per week to make sure that the 
>building is locked and empty (or at least tennants only) each night at a 
>specified time...say 10:30pm with the flexability to change that time for 
>special events, and unlocked at 8am and again checked for "sleepers"?  
>Essentially the building would be CLOSED during that time and open for all 
>during the day and evening hours.
>
>     Security systems could also be installed in the building that use 
>codes or magnetic keys for entrance that record name and time of entrance. 
>Instead of keys, individual and/or group codes are set in the system.
>
>     The back door (south) is still not closing tightly each time it is 
>shut.  Sometimes it sticks and doesn't latch when you let it automatically 
>close rather than pushing/pulling it closed. This needs to be fixed again 
>(I know Bob worked on it not too long ago and that worked for a while). I 
>found it that way twice last week.
>
>     Niloofar
>     ----- Original Message -----
>       From: wmullins at insightbb.com
>       To: bookstoprisoners at lists.chambana.net
>       Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 8:13 PM
>       Subject: [Bookstoprisoners] Key policy feedback for Thursday's 
>Steering Meeting?
>
>
>       Hello all,
>
>       Do we have a consensus about how Books To Prisoners feels about the 
>new key policy being proposed by the IMC Steering Committee?  Are we fine 
>with the plan to rekey both basement doors and the stairwell doors, and 
>find some mechanism to make sure our volunteers get into the basement with 
>minimal hassle during our work sessions?
>
>       I've heard some skepticism from a few keystaff volunteers, but 
>nobody except Sandra has given a definite yay or nay to the proposal.  Is 
>anybody else showing up Thursday night to discuss their concerns?  Does 
>anybody have a particular concern or objection or counter-proposal that 
>they want me to add to the discussion at the upcoming Steering meeting?
>
>       The meeting is 8pm this Thursday on the main floor and should be 
>lively.
>
>       As the B2P list was broken or something last week and I could only 
>post to the keystaff list, I'll repost my last Steering notes here.
>
>       Bill
>
>
>
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