[Bookstoprisoners] Key policy feedback
forThursday'sSteeringMeeting?
jamie storm
gary_jamie at hotmail.com
Tue Jun 5 09:20:38 CDT 2007
Just back it town, I'm trying to catch up on the many b2p issues and
discussions. I, too, use my key to drop in to b2p workspace when I have
spare time and would not want to lose that flexibility. Jamie
>From: "Niloofar Shambayati" <Nilu at insightbb.com>
>Reply-To: Niloofar Shambayati <Nilu at insightbb.com>
>To: "Sand and Sea Sells Used Books Etc." <sandncsells at ameritech.net>,"BTP
>Keystaff"
><btp-keystaff at lists.chambana.net>,<bookstoprisoners at lists.chambana.net>
>Subject: Re: [Bookstoprisoners] Key policy feedback
>forThursday'sSteeringMeeting?
>Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 20:56:43 -0500
>
>Hello All,
>
>Whatever decision IMC makes, we should insist on having as many keys as we
>need. Otherwise our work would be seriously hampered. Deb's idea makes
>sense: to have Chris or someone else in charge of vacating the building
>from non-members and locking all doors at an specific time. But the key
>staff need to have access to the building at any hour---April and Noah's
>concern. There are others, including Bob and myself, who don't sign up to
>be key staff but need to have keys. Signing in and out doesn't resolve any
>problem because those who potentially pose a threat to the security and a
>sense of safety most likely don't have keys. We should also emphasize that
>what makes IMC such a unique place is that it belongs to the community and
>needs to remain a welcoming environment. Safety is important but not at the
>expense of too many restrictions.
>Would anyone be able to join Bill at the steering meeting?
>
>Niloofar
>
>----- Original Message -----
> From: Sand and Sea Sells Used Books Etc.
> To: BTP Keystaff ; bookstoprisoners at lists.chambana.net ; Niloofar
>Shambayati
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Bookstoprisoners] Key policy feedback for
>Thursday'sSteeringMeeting?
>
>
> See my additions in red to Niloofar's points.
> Deb Sanderson
> Owner/Buyer
> Sand and Sea Sells Used Books Etc.
> www.sandncsells.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Niloofar Shambayati
> To: bookstoprisoners at lists.chambana.net
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Bookstoprisoners] Key policy feedback for
>Thursday'sSteering Meeting?
>
>
> 1.Changing the locks and giving out new keys is not a major issue,
>except that it might prove to be
> both costly and ineffective. More door bells would also need to be
>installed at all doors other than the back basement door.
> 2.My concern is about not to have access to enough keys for our
>current and future key staff and especially those keystaff that work the
>jails and need access to the basement and library during NON work session
>times. We also need all our current (and could use more) keystaff to keep
>flexibility for staffing work sessions. Less key access means more hours
>that will need to be worked by each keystaff. Rather than once or twice a
>month they will need to volunteer that on a weekly basis. This puts too
>much time demand on our dedicated volunteer keystaff.
> 3. Automatic locks impede our work since we would have to rush to the
>door each time a volunteer rings
> the bell. Unless a buzzer system is installed to "buzz" people in
>using an intercom system similar to those used in apartment buildings.These
>would have to be on EVERY door. This also would cover #4 below.
> 4. Limiting access to the basement through only one entrance might
>confuse/discourage
> new volunteers.
> 5. IMC can keep a list of all key-holders and have us all take an
>oath. We could also initiate a sign in process upstairs and down with
>sign-in/sign-out times and dates. This would help with accountability
>issues.
>
> It would be good to hear from everyone to be able to speak with one
>voice. Jane, Bob, April, Jamie, Noah et al.?
>
> PAY Chris or whoever a few more hours per week to make sure that the
>building is locked and empty (or at least tennants only) each night at a
>specified time...say 10:30pm with the flexability to change that time for
>special events, and unlocked at 8am and again checked for "sleepers"?
>Essentially the building would be CLOSED during that time and open for all
>during the day and evening hours.
>
> Security systems could also be installed in the building that use
>codes or magnetic keys for entrance that record name and time of entrance.
>Instead of keys, individual and/or group codes are set in the system.
>
> The back door (south) is still not closing tightly each time it is
>shut. Sometimes it sticks and doesn't latch when you let it automatically
>close rather than pushing/pulling it closed. This needs to be fixed again
>(I know Bob worked on it not too long ago and that worked for a while). I
>found it that way twice last week.
>
> Niloofar
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: wmullins at insightbb.com
> To: bookstoprisoners at lists.chambana.net
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 8:13 PM
> Subject: [Bookstoprisoners] Key policy feedback for Thursday's
>Steering Meeting?
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> Do we have a consensus about how Books To Prisoners feels about the
>new key policy being proposed by the IMC Steering Committee? Are we fine
>with the plan to rekey both basement doors and the stairwell doors, and
>find some mechanism to make sure our volunteers get into the basement with
>minimal hassle during our work sessions?
>
> I've heard some skepticism from a few keystaff volunteers, but
>nobody except Sandra has given a definite yay or nay to the proposal. Is
>anybody else showing up Thursday night to discuss their concerns? Does
>anybody have a particular concern or objection or counter-proposal that
>they want me to add to the discussion at the upcoming Steering meeting?
>
> The meeting is 8pm this Thursday on the main floor and should be
>lively.
>
> As the B2P list was broken or something last week and I could only
>post to the keystaff list, I'll repost my last Steering notes here.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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