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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:36:44 -0400<br>
From: Andrew Reynolds <<a href="mailto:andrew@opentechinstitute.org">andrew@opentechinstitute.org</a>><br>
To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <<a href="mailto:hans@guardianproject.info">hans@guardianproject.info</a>><br>
Cc: Commotion Development List <<a href="mailto:commotion-dev@lists.chambana.net">commotion-dev@lists.chambana.net</a>><br>
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Thanks Hans,<br>
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Would you prefer that discussion and feedback to be captured in Redmine<br>
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On 06/19/2012 09:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:<br>
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> I posted Harlo's complete GUI mockups to the redmine, please check it<br>
> out and let us know what you think:<br>
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> <a href="https://code.commotionwireless.net/issues/162" target="_blank">https://code.commotionwireless.net/issues/162</a><br>
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:26:24 -0400<br>
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <<a href="mailto:hans@guardianproject.info">hans@guardianproject.info</a>><br>
To: Andrew Reynolds <<a href="mailto:andrew@opentechinstitute.org">andrew@opentechinstitute.org</a>><br>
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On 06/20/2012 01:36 PM, Andrew Reynolds wrote:<br>
> Thanks Hans,<br>
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> Would you prefer that discussion and feedback to be captured in Redmine<br>
> or on the dev list?<br>
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> -andrew<br>
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> On 06/19/2012 09:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:<br>
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>> I posted Harlo's complete GUI mockups to the redmine, please check it<br>
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:10:09 -0400<br>
From: Dan Staples <<a href="mailto:danarky@riseup.net">danarky@riseup.net</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:commotion-dev@lists.chambana.net">commotion-dev@lists.chambana.net</a><br>
Subject: [Commotion-dev] Commotion on the Raspberry Pi?<br>
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Taking many of the same inspirations that led to Commotion, I've been<br>
working on creating a framework for decentralized file-sharing and<br>
communication over a wireless mesh network, utilizing the Raspberry Pi<br>
as the device of choice (due to its low cost and the capabilities of<br>
embedded linux). I aim to use OLSR for the routing protocol, and<br>
Tahoe-LAFS for file storage/sharing.<br>
<br>
I see that Commotion is focused on smartphones and OpenWRT-flashed<br>
routers, but I was wondering if my idea might fit well with the<br>
Commotion project. Long-term vision, I'd like to create a linux image<br>
one could boot from an SD card on the Raspberry Pi, but for now I'm<br>
focusing on getting the mesh networking set up.<br>
<br>
I'd love to hear feedback, and if you all think this might be a good fit<br>
with Commotion.<br>
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cheers,<br>
Dan<br>
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:02:32 -0500<br>
From: Ben West <<a href="mailto:me@benwest.name">me@benwest.name</a>><br>
To: Dan Staples <<a href="mailto:danarky@riseup.net">danarky@riseup.net</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:commotion-dev@lists.chambana.net">commotion-dev@lists.chambana.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Commotion-dev] Commotion on the Raspberry Pi?<br>
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This definitely a cool idea, and the Raspberry is indeed a neat platform<br>
for OpenWRT, and by extension Commotion.<br>
<br>
I did notice mention on a (now-closed) OpenWRT ticket that the Raspberry<br>
has on average more CPU/RAM resources than the typical device targeted for<br>
OpenWRT, meaning that desktop-class Linux distros like Ubuntu, etc might be<br>
a better choice anyway.<br>
<br>
So, once Commotion runs fine on Ubuntu/Debian OS, it should run fine on the<br>
Raspberry w/o needing to compile OpenWRT.<br>
<br>
Nevertheless, it looks like the OpenWRT community, et al, are working on a<br>
port:<br>
<a href="https://code.google.com/p/raspberrypi-openwrt/" target="_blank">https://code.google.com/p/raspberrypi-openwrt/</a> (Google Code repository)<br>
<a href="https://code.google.com/p/raspberrypi-openwrt/wiki/ConfigureOpenWrt(Incomplete" target="_blank">https://code.google.com/p/raspberrypi-openwrt/wiki/ConfigureOpenWrt(Incomplete</a><br>
build instructions)<br>
<a href="https://github.com/derlunz/openwrt-raspberrypi" target="_blank">https://github.com/derlunz/openwrt-raspberrypi</a> (a possibly unrelated github<br>
repo)<br>
<a href="http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=1098" target="_blank">http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=1098</a> (thread on<br>
Raspberry forums)<br>
<br>
Besides all that, since the Raspberry doesn't have a built-in wifi radio,<br>
you would need to use a USB wifi stick. Do make sure to select one that<br>
has solid Linux support.<br>
<a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported</a><br>
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Dan Staples <<a href="mailto:danarky@riseup.net">danarky@riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Taking many of the same inspirations that led to Commotion, I've been<br>
> working on creating a framework for decentralized file-sharing and<br>
> communication over a wireless mesh network, utilizing the Raspberry Pi<br>
> as the device of choice (due to its low cost and the capabilities of<br>
> embedded linux). I aim to use OLSR for the routing protocol, and<br>
> Tahoe-LAFS for file storage/sharing.<br>
><br>
> I see that Commotion is focused on smartphones and OpenWRT-flashed<br>
> routers, but I was wondering if my idea might fit well with the<br>
> Commotion project. Long-term vision, I'd like to create a linux image<br>
> one could boot from an SD card on the Raspberry Pi, but for now I'm<br>
> focusing on getting the mesh networking set up.<br>
><br>
> I'd love to hear feedback, and if you all think this might be a good fit<br>
> with Commotion.<br>
><br>
> cheers,<br>
> Dan<br>
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