<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>I haven't heard any "nuclear" problems with MeshTether or Barnacle (where MeshTether gets part of its adhoc logic from), but that's not saying it might not happen in the future :)</div><div><br></div><div>The meltdown occurred on my Motorola Droid running CM7 using Serval, which uses a different adhoc wrangling technique than MeshTether/Barnacle. MeshTether is working fine on the Motorola Droid running CM7. But MeshTether/Barnacle seem to support fewer devices currently than Serval.</div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><div><div>On Oct 12, 2012, at 8:24 AM, David Oliver wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">It's good news that this patch got submitted but I agree with the notion that even it accepted it will take a long time to "trickle up".<div><br></div><div>Should we be starting a list of devices that are compatible with Android Mesh Tether? More importantly perhaps, should we be compiling a list of devices to AVOID (Hans mentioned one that goes dark permanently if you try set ad hoc)?</div>
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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:48:32 -0400<br>
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <<a href="mailto:hans@guardianproject.info">hans@guardianproject.info</a>><br>
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There is now a patch submitted via the official android gerrit to add<br>
ad-hoc support to Android:<br>
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<a href="https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/c/43070/" target="_blank">https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/c/43070/</a><br>
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:51:32 +1030<br>
From: Jeremy Lakeman <<a href="mailto:Jeremy.Lakeman@gmail.com">Jeremy.Lakeman@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Hopefully this actually gets in and starts to be supported. But even<br>
then it takes a long time for new android versions to trickle down to<br>
actual devices.<br>
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I have wondered if we should team up with other projects that want<br>
adhoc on android to build a single unified API we can use to get adhoc<br>
working on each device. With a web site for documenting which<br>
platforms are supported or broken and any other crazy steps required<br>
like replacing your kernel.<br>
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner<br>
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> There is now a patch submitted via the official android gerrit to add<br>
> ad-hoc support to Android:<br>
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> <a href="https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/c/43070/" target="_blank">https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/c/43070/</a><br>
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 07:52:23 -0400<br>
From: Dan Staples <<a href="mailto:danstaples@opentechinstitute.org">danstaples@opentechinstitute.org</a>><br>
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I'm glad to see that's been submitted! Currently, does implementing<br>
ad-hoc mode such as in MeshTether (and Serval has their own<br>
implementation too, no?) require root? I imagine once ad-hoc is<br>
supported in android itself root will not be required, which will<br>
greatly expand its accessibility for both developers and users.<br>
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On Thu 11 Oct 2012 08:21:32 PM EDT, Jeremy Lakeman wrote:<br>
> Hopefully this actually gets in and starts to be supported. But even<br>
> then it takes a long time for new android versions to trickle down to<br>
> actual devices.<br>
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> I have wondered if we should team up with other projects that want<br>
> adhoc on android to build a single unified API we can use to get adhoc<br>
> working on each device. With a web site for documenting which<br>
> platforms are supported or broken and any other crazy steps required<br>
> like replacing your kernel.<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner<br>
> <<a href="mailto:hans@guardianproject.info">hans@guardianproject.info</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> There is now a patch submitted via the official android gerrit to add<br>
>> ad-hoc support to Android:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/c/43070/" target="_blank">https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/c/43070/</a><br>
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>> .hc<br>
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