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    Also moving this discussion to the dev list. We've been talking
    about re-writing or replacing the clunky OLSR-Viz that we currently
    use to visualize a Commotion mesh on the OpenWRT firmware. Below we
    mention a couple options:<br>
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    1) Freifunks super jazzy uber-visualizer:
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freifunk-gw01.hamburg.ccc.de/ffhhmap/nodes.html">http://freifunk-gw01.hamburg.ccc.de/ffhhmap/nodes.html</a><br>
    2) AlterMundi's altermap: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mapa.mesh.altermundi.net/">http://mapa.mesh.altermundi.net/</a><br>
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    I personally like the decentralized, replicated nature of Altermap,
    which synchronizes data between hub nodes (using CouchDB), so that
    each has a full picture of the entire network. To build off this
    idea, we could have nodes pushing their link-state data to nearby
    hubs, and then the nodes could periodically pull summarized
    snapshots of the network map that they could present to clients. If
    the clients want more detailed info, there could be a link to a
    nearby hub node, which would present a visualization of the full
    data set. The hub node could be running a much more in-depth
    visualization, perhaps using something like Freifunk's map.<br>
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    Here's a quick sketch of how this could be architected:
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.asciiflow.com/#Draw6659252420885764096">http://www.asciiflow.com/#Draw6659252420885764096</a>. <br>
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            <td>Re: [OTI-Tech] Freifunks new node map</td>
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            <td>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:29:39 +0200</td>
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            <td>Dan Staples <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:danstaples@opentechinstitute.org"><danstaples@opentechinstitute.org></a></td>
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      <pre>On 04/17/2013 12:54 AM, Will Hawkins wrote:
> I've seen some pretty cool network layout "stuff" that is done with d3
> and I think that it would be very worthwhile to investigate how to use
> it for the layout engine for olsr-viz!
>
> Will
>
> On 04/16/2013 06:28 PM, Georgia Bullen wrote:
>> using d3 & leaflet!
>>
>> nice.
>>
>> that's what i've been suggesting to jrb and preston as a way of
>> combining geographic info and network info.
>>
>> -GA
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Seamus Tuohy <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:s2e@opentechinstitute.org"><s2e@opentechinstitute.org
></a>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:s2e@opentechinstitute.org"><mailto:s2e@opentechinstitute.org></a>> wrote:
>>
>>      It is just so pretty... btw, #battlemesh is the official channel of
>>      battlemesh and it is starting to become active.
>>
>>      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freifunk-gw01.hamburg.ccc.de/ffhhmap/nodes.html">http://freifunk-gw01.hamburg.ccc.de/ffhhmap/nodes.html</a>
>>
>>      s2e
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>> -- 
>> Georgia Bullen
>> Field Operations Technologist, Open Technology Institute
>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://oti.newamerica.net/"><http://oti.newamerica.net/></a>
>> New America Foundation
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I'd also like to point to AlterMundi's mapping software: 
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mapa.mesh.altermundi.net/">http://mapa.mesh.altermundi.net/</a>

The front-end view isn't super sophisticated, but I like their back-end 
model for collecting the nodes' data. Basically groups of nodes report 
their link-state info (via JSON) to nearby nodes/servers running 
CouchDB. Each of these DBs are federated and synchronize their data to a 
central internet-routable web server that provides the front-end 
display. It's decentralized, and could fit well with our 
BigBoard/LittleBoard idea.

AlterMundi's altermap code is here: 
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://colectivo.altermundi.net/projects">https://colectivo.altermundi.net/projects</a>


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