Hi there,<br><br>better late than never! <br>I also discovered Commotion via Le Monde's article (so this is almost a french speaker thread! ;), and currently working in the non-profit/human rights sector, I was obviously thrilled.<br>
I am Technical Project Manager though not a dev myself, and as such tend to think more of the gap between developers and users/potential stakeholders. I believe it would be great to get more plain language documentation (as accessible say, as the so-successful-LeMonde-article) to promote the concept and the progress of the project to potential community/institutional users. Because the people who will use it are ultimately not devs, but say emergency field workers and Human Rights Defenders (HRDs)! This in turn might totally influence your roadmap (and if you have some vague idea to service the 'third sector', then better develop something fits their need).<br>
<br>I have seen this wiki entry which is a great start I think <a href="https://tech.chambana.net/projects/commotion/wiki/Newbie_How_it_Works">https://tech.chambana.net/projects/commotion/wiki/Newbie_How_it_Works</a><br>but as a non-dev there are still a few things I am struggling to understand:<br>
<br>1) what are the USPs (Unique Selling Points) of this project compared to other open source wireless mesh networks initiatives already used (like OLPC <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLPC_XO-1#Wireless_mesh_networking">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLPC_XO-1#Wireless_mesh_networking</a>. Oh actually just reading that "Although one goal of the laptop is that all of its software be <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source" title="Open source">open source</a>, the source code for this routing protocol is currently closed source" booh!). I understand one is the integration with TOR, but any others?<br>
<br>2) how is the access to the internet addressed, and bandwidth in particular (access to a wider network for HRDs for example is strategically crucial). It would be good to have a non-tech version of why/how 100s can access the internet through the one point/computer and what kind of speed they can expect.<br>
<br>3) Commotion routers and their role, and access from say deep Rural Northern Uganda.<br><br>Ok, that's a lot to address, but hopefully there will be a few people out there who are able to answer! I'd suggest best done via the wiki, and then send us a link,<br>
thanks!<br><br>PS: wasn't chambana down yesterday?<br><br>Laurence<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:00 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:commotion-discuss-request@lists.chambana.net">commotion-discuss-request@lists.chambana.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 00:19:58 +0530<br>
From: Yann Forget <<a href="mailto:yannfo@gmail.com">yannfo@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: F L <<a href="mailto:legendre@tik.ee.ethz.ch">legendre@tik.ee.ethz.ch</a>>,<br>
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2011/9/1 F L <<a href="mailto:legendre@tik.ee.ethz.ch">legendre@tik.ee.ethz.ch</a>>:<br>
> Hi Yann,<br>
> Since you're in India, are you aware of?<a href="http://drupal.airjaldi.com/" target="_blank">http://drupal.airjaldi.com/</a><br>
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Yes, I wrote to them.<br>
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On Sep 1, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Yann Forget wrote:<br>
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> 2011/9/1 F L <<a href="mailto:legendre@tik.ee.ethz.ch">legendre@tik.ee.ethz.ch</a>>:<br>
>> Hi Yann,<br>
>> Since you're in India, are you aware of <a href="http://drupal.airjaldi.com/" target="_blank">http://drupal.airjaldi.com/</a><br>
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> Yes, I wrote to them.<br>
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Hehe, I proposed the same :)<br>
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Hi everyone,<br>
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My name is Merouan, I am a PhD student in Political Science at McGill<br>
University - Montr?al. I also heard about commotion through the french<br>
website <a href="http://lemonde.fr" target="_blank">lemonde.fr</a> and I immediately fell in love with the project!!<br>
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I am currently doing my research on the concept of "informational cascades"<br>
or why random instances of street protest spiral in some cases and not<br>
others (for instance, I am trying to understand why would the<br>
self-immolation of a street vendor trigger massive protests in Tunisia and<br>
not elsewhere in the Arab world). Nothing tech related as you can see but I<br>
do speak/write Arabic and French fluently and would be very very happy to<br>
help with translations or anything else if need be.<br>
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Again, I would like to congratulate all those working on the project. Coming<br>
from the Arab world, I can only testify on the importance of a free (and<br>
secure) access to the internet for the defence of individual freedoms.<br>
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Cheers!<br>
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Merouan<br>
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