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    Unless I'm mistaken, it seems like Luigi is just using a normal mesh
    setup, with two router nodes that broadcast access points. So not
    technically a WDS, correct?<br>
    <br>
    It sounds like you are having success with the router setup, Luigi,
    which is great. Thanks for letting us know of your progress! Can I
    ask, out of curiosity, what city you are deploying this in?<br>
    <br>
    cheers,<br>
    Dan<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/05/2013 01:30 PM, LuigiScop
      wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks Ben for your comments.<br>
        Are very useful.<br>
        I need some help to go in the right direction to use to software
        and the hardware correctly.<br>
        Without a manual it takes to me lot of time to try and try.I
        didn't write the software.<br>
        See my email on linux laptop.<br>
        I had already tried the new repository  as you are suggesting.<br>
        See there my comments.<br>
        <br>
        Luigi<br>
        <br>
        Il 05/06/2013 19:08, Ben West ha scritto:<br>
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        type="cite">Hi Luigi,<br>
        <br>
        Although I can't speak for Commotion developers at OTI, I think
        it its likely they would not be able to support WDS modes very
        well at all.  Besides the partially-functional modes that you
        have discovered.<br>
        <br>
        WDS is generally a proprietary extension of 802.11, whereby the
        flavors of WDS developed by different manufacturers (e.g.
        Atheros, Broadcom) do not inter-operate, probably by design.<br>
        <br>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/clientmode#wds.-.wireless.distribution.system"
          target="_blank">http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/clientmode#wds.-.wireless.distribution.system</a><br>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/broadcomwds"
          target="_blank">http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/broadcomwds</a><br>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/atheroswds"
          target="_blank">http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/atheroswds</a><br>
        <br>
        Likewise, I think the sort of STA-AP links that WDS builds will
        not play well with either the captive portal or the firewall
        settings used in Commotion-OpenWRT.<br>
        <br>
        So, the instance of Commotion you have working here likely would
        not mesh with any nodes running Commotion-OpenWRT firmware with
        canonical configuration.<br>
        <br>
        For the mode of meshing that Commotion OpenWRT (and
        commmotion-mesh-applet under Ubuntu/Debian) depends on, the
        preferred approach to this topology is to have the nodes talk to
        each other over a dedicated ad-hoc VIF (virtual interface), and
        then have each node broadcast its public AP as an additional
        VIF.  This approach avoids proprietary 802.11 extensions like
        WDS, to ensure compatibility with as many wifi clients as
        possible.<br>
        <br>
        Have you tried flashing the Picostations with the
        Commotion-OpenWRT images available here (either stable PR3 or
        unstable DR1)?  The Picostation M2 radios should run the
        "bullet" images fine, and it seems they should work for your
        2-node mesh.<br>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="https://commotionwireless.net/download">https://commotionwireless.net/download</a><br>
        <br>
        Likewise, and to address your questions about Commotion under
        Ubuntu/Debian, here are recent builds of the
        commotion-mesh-applet GNOME applet, olsrd daemon, and
        NetworkManager agent:<br>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eguardianproject/+archive/commotion">https://launchpad.net/~guardianproject/+archive/commotion</a><br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM,
          LuigiScop <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:luigi.scopelliti@fastwebnet.it"
              target="_blank">luigi.scopelliti@fastwebnet.it</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi,<br>
            I want to share more info about the test.<br>
            I used to "commotion wifi" ESSID.<br>
            The host PC (iPhone)was Wifi connected to the Client-WDS
            picostation.<br>
            The Adsl modem was connected to the LAN port of  POE of the
            second AP-WDS Picostation.<br>
            The two picostations are installed on two balconies(50 m up
            from ground) of my building .One balcony looking  North, the
            other one looking  West.<br>
            In this way I can distribute internet wirelessy over two
            areas that are located in orthogonal directions down to the
            street. The distance of the 2 picostations is about  15 m
            each other but the RF signal has to go through the walls of
            the apartment and the attenuation is significant.<br>
            If I go with my iPhone on the street I can connect the
            iPhone  to Internet at a distance of about 100 m from the
            base of building on one direction and 100 m on the other
            direction.I have created  two internet hot spots  with only
            1 Internet access.<br>
            The output power of the picostation has been set to 14 dBm
            because italian regulation.This is why the distance is not
            so significant.<br>
            But the configuration is good for testing.<br>
            Luigi<br>
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              Today's Topics:<br>
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                  1. WDS configuration (LuigiScop)<br>
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              Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 09:10:06 +0200<br>
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                href="mailto:luigi.scopelliti@fastwebnet.it"
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              host
              PC-->Picostation(Client-WDS)->Picostation(AP-WDS)->adsl
              modem<br>
              <br>
              Wifi Access to internet from the client side works.<br>
              <br>
              Luigi<br>
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