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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">rPi <br>
      OS Raspbian(wheezy) 2013-07-26<br>
      Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #474 PREEMPT Thu Jun 13 2013 armv6l
      GNU/Linux<br>
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      DellLatitude 4310<br>
      OS:Ubuntu 13.04<br>
      kernel 3.8.0-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue May 14 22:17:37 UTC
      2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux<br>
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      carl9170 firmware:1.9.6. 2012-07-07<br>
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      Luigi<br>
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      Il 14/08/2013 17:30, Ben West ha scritto:<br>
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            <div>Hi Luigi,<br>
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            USB wifi adapter compatibility is tricky for instances where
            you want the radio to broadcast multiple SSIDs (i.e. adhoc
            signal and a local AP signal).  To date, I've only been able
            to get this working on TL-WN821N <b>v3</b> which uses the <b>ath9k_htc</b>
            driver, not v2 which uses the carl9170 driver.  Likewise for
            the TL-WN722N.  Even then, I had patch the ath9k_htc driver
            (patch for OpenWRT included) to make the radio do multiple
            SSIDs.<br>
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          On the other hand, if you are using the commotion-mesh-applet
          tool under a compatible desktop GUI like GNOME or Mate, it
          will only start a single adhoc interface, rather than multiple
          SSIDs.  The caveat, at when I last tested that tool in March,
          was that it expected the USB wifi interface to be named
          "wlan0" rather something else like "wlan1."<br>
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        Could you respond with the OS and kernel versions on all
        machines involved, i.e. your laptop and the rPI?  The USB wifi
        driver might also be a bit stale, too.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:43 AM,
          LuigiScop <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi Dan,<br>
            totally agree that main challenge is to pick up a good USB
            wireless.<br>
            I have bought (1 month ago) theTP-Link  TL_WN821N(V.2).The
            V.2(I found out later) is not in the Linux kernel. I had to
            install the firmware carl9170. Easy to make it works in
            managed mode.<br>
            Still not working in ad-hoc mode.Not sure if it is a problem
            of the firmware( it should work also in ad-hoc) or the
            /etc/network/interfaces  and wpa_supplicant setting.<br>
            Assuming that TL_WN821N(v.2) works,could be helpful to have
            some info from you based on your experience.<br>
            After I'll buy the TP-Link TL-WN722N<br>
            Thanks.<br>
            <br>
            luigi
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                On 13/08/2013 23:07, Dan Staples wrote:<br>
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                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On
                  08/13/2013 04:56 PM, Dan Staples wrote:<br>
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                    Hi Luigi,<br>
                    <br>
                    Glad to hear about all the successes!<br>
                    <br>
                    I have made a mesh network from Raspberry Pis before
                    (battery-powered,<br>
                    even), so it's definitely possible. The main
                    challenge is to pick a good<br>
                    USB wireless adapter. I recommend the TP-Link
                    TL-WN722N [1], since its<br>
                    driver supports ad-hoc mode in recent Linux kernels.<br>
                    <br>
                    Then, you install your Raspberry Pi operating system
                    (I recommend<br>
                    Raspbian), and configure the wireless adapter to be
                    in ad-hoc mode with<br>
                    the correct SSID,BSSID,channel, etc. This is done in<br>
                    /etc/network/interfaces...if you need info on how to
                    to that, I can give<br>
                    you resources.<br>
                    <br>
                    Then you can install and configure OLSRd on the Pi,
                    so that it can mesh<br>
                    with the other devices. For an olsrd config file,
                    you can look at<br>
                    /var/etc/olsrd.conf on one of your picostations for
                    an example.<br>
                    <br>
                    Let us know how that goes!<br>
                    <br>
                    -Dan<br>
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                    [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    On 08/13/2013 12:04 PM, LuigiScop wrote:<br>
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                      It was a pleasure to join Commotion team several
                       months ago.<br>
                      With your support I was able to implement a local
                      mesh newtwork with<br>
                      two routers (picostation), my  two Linux LapTops
                      and Iphone.<br>
                      I have also tested the capabiity of commotiont
                      application portal by<br>
                      installing either Tidepools and MediGrid.<br>
                      Most of the time spent to play with the raspberry
                      and after installing<br>
                      MediaGrid.<br>
                      Everything works.I tried to upload and share some
                      music and the chat.<br>
                      <br>
                      Based on this experience I have some questions.<br>
                      a)How to make the Raspberry pi part of the Mesh?In
                      my application I have<br>
                      connected it to the AP as external device.<br>
                      b)Is there any future for the integration of
                      raspberry in the commotion<br>
                      network?<br>
                      <br>
                      Last question.<br>
                      c)My idea is to buy two Nanostations and to extend
                      the range of my local<br>
                      mesh.<br>
                      Any suggestion based on your experience?<br>
                      To reach longer distances(1 to 2  miles)I would
                      choose a 5Ghz (the power<br>
                      limit in Italy is 1 W output power at 5Ghz).Much
                      more less for Wifi(15dbm).<br>
                      Thanks for your support and suggestions.<br>
                      <br>
                      Luigi<br>
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                             1. Commotion installation on Linux laptop
                        (LuigiScop)<br>
                             2. Re: Commotion installation on Linux
                        laptop (Dan Staples)<br>
                             3. Material for a workshop on mesh networks
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                        Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:37:36 +0200<br>
                        From: LuigiScop <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        Everything at home which has a wifi interface
                        can be connected and the<br>
                        network(built by 2 picostations) is working as
                        ad-hoc network.<br>
                             If the fridge,the oven or the stove had a
                        wifi interface, they would<br>
                        be connected to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://commotionwireless.net"
                          target="_blank">commotionwireless.net</a> too.<br>
                              The only issue I have found is that if I
                        try to access internet with<br>
                        the  linux laptop  using the ad-hoc interface of
                        the AP router,I can't.<br>
                              But if I use the router AP as master ,I
                        can.<br>
                              I red somewhere that this feature is not
                        avalable for laptop. Please<br>
                        confirm.<br>
                              On the other end if I connect a local web
                        server to the POE LAN port<br>
                        of one router, I can have access to the  web
                        page also from the linux<br>
                        laptop through the  ad-hoc  interface     of the
                        router(picostation).<br>
                              As a demo to show the capabilities of
                        commotion solution I would<br>
                        like to implement a Server application.<br>
                              Which application  do you suggest first
                        that can explain better the<br>
                        commotion solution capabilities?<br>
                              I need to recruit some people on ths
                        project.<br>
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                               Luigi<br>
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                        When connecting your laptop to the picostation
                        over ad-hoc, do you have<br>
                        olsrd running on the laptop? If so, and if the
                        picostation has access to<br>
                        the internet, your laptop should get a route via
                        olsrd to the internet<br>
                        as well.<br>
                        <br>
                        To troubleshoot this, try checking the output of
                        "nc localhost 2006" (to<br>
                        show olsrd info), and "route -n" on the laptop
                        to show local routes.<br>
                        <br>
                        As for applications, I would suggest either
                        Tidepools (a local mapping<br>
                        application: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.tidepools.co/"
                          target="_blank">http://www.tidepools.co/</a>)
                        or MediaGrid (a secure<br>
                        file-sharing and webchat application:<br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="https://github.com/danstaples/MediaGrid"
                          target="_blank">https://github.com/danstaples/MediaGrid</a>).

                        They both require a good bit<br>
                        of tinkering to work well, but could be a fun
                        project. Or you could try<br>
                        for something simpler to setup, like an Apache
                        web server.<br>
                        <br>
                        Also, when you have the server set up, try using
                        the application portal<br>
                        on the picostation<br>
                        (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://code.commotionwireless.net/projects/commotion/wiki/Application_Portal"
                          target="_blank">https://code.commotionwireless.net/projects/commotion/wiki/Application_Portal</a>).<br>
                        <br>
                        When you "add an application", it will show up
                        automatically on other<br>
                        routers nearby within a few minutes!<br>
                        <br>
                        Dan<br>
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                  As for your other questions, we would like to have a
                  Commotion image for<br>
                  Raspberry Pi, but it is not a top priority for now.
                  Perhaps someone from<br>
                  the dev community can create one ;)<br>
                  <br>
                  And we often use Nanostations for connecting parts of
                  a mesh network<br>
                  over longer distances. They work really well for that
                  purpose, but<br>
                  aren't the best for providing access points since they
                  are directional.<br>
                  <br>
                  -Dan<br>
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