[Community] Re: [Imc-bookkeeper] Re: Communication and decisions structure proposal (ideas wanted!)

Tue Jul 28 12:26:20 CDT 2009

Making this proposal sounds good to me.  The next meeting is August 13th and
Print is hosting.  We had to change the date because of a concert taking
place on the first Thursday of August, when steering is usually held.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Elizabeth Simpson <elizacorps at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Hi all-
> My thought is that I'll bring this up as a proposal at the next steering
> meeting. Nicole- who is hosting? (and when is it? I know it got moved, but
> it's not really clear to me).
>
> -E
>
> A strong people need no leader
> - Zapata
>
>
>
> --- On *Mon, 7/27/09, Danielle Chynoweth <chyn at ojctech.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Danielle Chynoweth <chyn at ojctech.com>
> Subject: Re: [Imc-bookkeeper] Re: Communication and decisions structure
> proposal (ideas wanted!)
> To: "Nicole Pion" <nicole.pion at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Elizabeth Simpson" <elizacorps at yahoo.com>,
> community at lists.chambana.net, miburges at gmail.com,
> imc-bookkeeper at lists.chambana.net, hampson2 at gmail.com, udderbot at gmail.com
> Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 7:16 PM
>
>
> Totally agree with Beth.
>
> We have said many times we will make a spokes + staff listserv, but it
> never happens.  If it does happen, that would be the better place to post
> staff updates.  I did not want to just post to finance because we have been
> criticized for centralizing too much - a criticism I agree with.
>
> Signed the loan docs today - yea!
>
> - Danielle
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Nicole Pion <nicole.pion at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=nicole.pion@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
>> Beth,
>> I think this is a great idea.  I often struggle with the IMC's
>> communication strategies because we are non-hierarchical, so, all members
>> have equal access to information.  However, there are some people who don't
>> want all the info!  And, now that we are employing people, the dynamic is
>> changing.  For fundraising purposes, we need to have a "public face"  list
>> but for day-to-day work, we need an internal operations list...all without
>> subjecting people to being on too many lists.
>>
>> I propose that we keep the IMC at ucimc.org<http://mc/compose?to=IMC@ucimc.org>list as the public face, since there are so many people already signed up
>> for this and it is already on a lot of the materials that we have floating
>> around in the community.
>>
>> We can have core-spoke/steering list made up easily.  I believe that was a
>> community connections project anyhow?  I'm sure it will be easy to create.
>> Let's put it on our to-do list for the next meeting.  Speaking of, do we
>> meet this Wednesday at 11?
>>
>> Finally, we will have a stewardship-type list in place shortly.  I have
>> asked all working groups with AmeriCorps to designate someone to be part of
>> this list (this should cover all the groups).  I can put it together within
>> the next week or so.
>>
>> Other thoughts and ideas?  I'm glad that we are having this broader
>> conversation about communication at the IMC.  It is important for our growth
>> and will also help with how we matriculate people into the IMC community.
>>
>> Nicole
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Elizabeth Simpson <elizacorps at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=elizacorps@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi Finance crew, Community Connections, and the staff-type folks,
>>>
>>> It makes sense that someone who isn't Nicole would be aware of what
>>> Isaac, Chris, Tim. and Jacob are doing, but I don't think the main list is
>>> the right place. That list is problematic already because it's the dump all.
>>> People can't sign up for notices without also getting all the guts, many
>>> folks just ignore most of the messages, no one knows who is responding to
>>> what, etc.  It also opens up what they are doing to interrogation and
>>> comment by random folks who have no connection to them. I'd feel weird about
>>> that if I were them, but that's me.
>>>
>>> I've been thinking about this anyway, with regard to outreach- my
>>> proposal is that we have multiple lists:
>>>
>>> imc at ucimc.org <http://mc/compose?to=imc@ucimc.org>
>>> for decision-making, that is, steering. It's for when decisions need to
>>> be made, problems arise, questions are asked by people from other projects,
>>> etc. This group functions like a general membership meeting.
>>>
>>> public at ucimc.org <http://mc/compose?to=public@ucimc.org>
>>> a general IMC info list for events and happenings, our 'general public'
>>> list. This functions like an outreach list.
>>>
>>> stewardship at ucimc.org <http://mc/compose?to=stewardship@ucimc.org>
>>> Finally there would be a steward list, which would be for spokes and
>>> anyone who elects to be on it, and THIS is where the report backs would get
>>> sent. Developing such a thing is key because of upcoming VISTAS. People on
>>> this would commit to reading it and addressing it as needed. It would be a
>>> formalized place for what already happens informally, which is teeny groups
>>> of people address issues outside of steering. This functions sort of like a
>>> board does, except that it doesn't hold decision-making power, it is a
>>> concerted, rotating, group that is keeping an eye on the whole. It is, in a
>>> way what I'm doing now- addressing things in a small group with people most
>>> involved, before throwing it out to the vague big group.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> elizaBeth
>>>
>>> A strong people need no leader
>>> - Zapata
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Mon, 7/27/09, Tim Pawlowski <tpaw2880 at hotmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=tpaw2880@hotmail.com>
>>> >* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Tim Pawlowski <tpaw2880 at hotmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=tpaw2880@hotmail.com>
>>> >
>>> Subject: [Imc] RE: Supervision of consortium workers - response needed
>>> from Chris, Isaac, Tim, and Jacob
>>> To: imc at ucimc.org <http://mc/compose?to=imc@ucimc.org>
>>> Cc: imc-bookkeeper at lists.chambana.net<http://mc/compose?to=imc-bookkeeper@lists.chambana.net>
>>> Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 12:02 PM
>>>
>>> So today I met with Fred of Kobel Plumbing at 8....I cleared the main
>>> shut off valve area and closed both hot and cold for them...they got there
>>> at 8:22...finished up at 10:45 and switched out four valves.  He will be
>>> coming in later this week to replcae three valves in the downstairs
>>> bathroom.  Called Jon of Comfort Mechanical to see if there would be an
>>> issue with the A/C system if the water would be off for some time as well as
>>> planned for him to come in later this week and finish up charging the lines
>>> (putting in coolant).  Cleaned up and organized the building, placed an
>>> order with CDC for black bags, paper towels, latex gloves, bleach and dust
>>> masks....measured the window of 206 to replace missing pane, cleaned and
>>> organized outside area, including bikes/tires/wheels that are constantly
>>> being abandoned all over the place.  This week I'm planning to finish up
>>> priming the hallway and going to ACE and this other place Chris H. mentioned
>>> to get donated paint/mistints and begin working on final coat next week or
>>> so.  I also have to chop a junk couch in half and fit it in the
>>> dumpster,...mop downstairs bathrooms, take down water shut off signs, take
>>> out recycle for wednesday, find flourecent ballasts that work, replace dead
>>> bulbs from upstairs/handicapp entrance, take pics of units and list
>>> individually on Craigslist now that they are cleaner and brighter since the
>>> summer "help" girls cleaned windows and such last week. I want to hang the
>>> paintings/pictures that old manager Chris placed in one of the stairwells,
>>> try and fix the other light post out front that is not lighting up, replace
>>> ductwork by the stage, as well as a million other things that you can come
>>> in and see for yourself...I feel slightly irritated from being 'supervised'
>>> via online, but understand your concerns for structure and accountability.
>>> As far as barriers and concerns, I feel like I have been handed over alot of
>>> reposibilities and duties that require me to be in at all times of the week
>>> (last sat potential tenant, two sundays ago at noon)...as well as performing
>>> tasks that far exceed my compensation...it was a worthy effort to bring in
>>> the summer help, but it did not solve the original problem of having someone
>>> to help me out(without constant supervision and training).  You can't always
>>> get what you want,... back at square one.  --Tim
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> From: chyn at ojctech.com <http://mc/compose?to=chyn@ojctech.com>
>>> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:56:22 -0500
>>> Subject: Supervision of consortium workers - response needed from Chris,
>>> Isaac, Tim, and Jacob
>>> To: imc-bookkeeper at lists.chambana.net<http://mc/compose?to=imc-bookkeeper@lists.chambana.net>
>>> CC: miburges at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=miburges@gmail.com>;
>>> hampson2 at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=hampson2@gmail.com>;
>>> tpaw2880 at hotmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=tpaw2880@hotmail.com>;
>>> udderbot at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=udderbot@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Hello finance folks -
>>>
>>> I want to reiterate my request to have Isaac, Tim, Jacob, and Chris H
>>> providing weekly email reports about what they did last week, what they plan
>>> for next week, and what barriers or concerns they have that stand in the
>>> way.  Any overall picture of goals would be helpful too.
>>>
>>> Can each of you 4 reply that you can provide this to imc at ucimc.org<http://mc/compose?to=imc@ucimc.org>cced to
>>> imc-bookkeeper at lists.chambana.net<http://mc/compose?to=imc-bookkeeper@lists.chambana.net>on a weekly basis?
>>>
>>> I am concerned that too much of the management work is falling to Nicole
>>> and the steering and finance groups needs to play a greater role in this.
>>> The problem is that the group does not know what the consortium workers are
>>> engaged with.
>>>
>>> I also have concerns that consortium workers may be spinning their wheels
>>> or not keeping regular hours, etc as well as concerns that they are not
>>> getting the support and structure they need to do their jobs.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Danielle
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Nicole Pion
>> Outreach and Development Adviser
>> AmeriCorps CTC VISTA
>> Urbana-Champaign Independent Media Center
>>
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>

-- 
Nicole Pion
Outreach and Development Adviser
AmeriCorps CTC VISTA
Urbana-Champaign Independent Media Center
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