This time, all the information: Zach's: cuw.cu.groogroo.com IMC's: indie245.indie-media.soltec.net port 2222 Connected to Zach's is Laura Huth's, and connected to IMC's is ... everything else. =) Dave -- David Young OJC Technologies dyoung at ojctech.com Urbana, IL * (217) 278-3933