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Hi Serge,<br>
<br>
While I'm in Urbana I would love to make myself available to anyone
and everyone who is interested. UIUC students, k-12, whomever. I
don't have a definite departure date, but I was thinking of leaving
on the 9th for Chicago (my plane leaves on the 13th from Chicago
back home to San Francisco -- and I'd like to have a few days to
visit with family and friends in Chicago after Urbana and before I
fly home). But perhaps it would be worthwhile to leave after the
Open House.<br>
<br>
I'm up for giving more talks, as well as the workshops at Unit One
and at MakerSpace Urbana.<br>
<br>
I'm glad that my trip is getting you and Stewart together. And
hopefully getting some good collaboration possibilities happening.
:)<br>
<br>
Anyway, please let me know more of what you have in mind.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Mitch.<br>
<br>
<br>
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On 2/17/2012 8:15 PM, Serge Minin wrote:
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<td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">Hi Stewart, Mitch,
and everyone else,<br>
<br>
I have been ears for a long time, but I would now like to
chime in.<br>
<br>
Firs, I would like to ask whether Mitch might be inclined
to do something at the ECE department. I am an instructor
for the RF lab here, and I it seems that that our lab
space can be used for some student workshops, if desired.
Also, some student societies might be excited to have
Mitch as a guest speaker. After all, he is pretty well
known here. If a rep from MakerspaceU comes along, it
would be even better. There is a lot of synergy that is
possible.<br>
<br>
Also, I am involved somewhat in k-12 outreach. Perhaps I
could help set up something with school kids? The
libraries might be good in terms of space.<br>
<br>
I was wondering if the week of March 5th is still somewhat
open for Mitch. Incidentally, the Engineering Open House
is on the 9th, if that is of any interest. <br>
<br>
Anyhow, if any of this sounds agreeable, I would love to
put in some effort to work out the logistics.<br>
<br>
Thank you very much,<br>
<br>
Serge<br>
<br>
P.S. Stewart, I only know you as the very informative
eVoice on the list, but I would really enjoy meeting you
in person.<br>
<br>
--- On <b>Wed, 2/15/12, Mitch Altman <i><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mitch@CornfieldElectronics.com"><mitch@CornfieldElectronics.com></a></i></b>
wrote:<br>
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From: Mitch Altman
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mitch@CornfieldElectronics.com"><mitch@CornfieldElectronics.com></a><br>
Subject: Re: [Imc-makerspace] Mitch Altman Visit in
Feb/March?<br>
To: "Stewart Dickson" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:MathArt@emsh.calarts.edu"><MathArt@emsh.calarts.edu></a><br>
Cc: "Koen Martens" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gmc@sonologic.nl"><gmc@sonologic.nl></a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:imc-makerspace@lists.chambana.net">imc-makerspace@lists.chambana.net</a>, "MakerSpace Urbana"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:makerspaceu@gmail.com"><makerspaceu@gmail.com></a>, "Suzanne Linder"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:suzanne.linder@gmail.com"><suzanne.linder@gmail.com></a><br>
Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 7:18 PM<br>
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<div> On 2/15/2012 4:29 PM, Stewart Dickson wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"> On 2/15/12 3:28 PM, Mitch
Altman wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"> <br>
And I'm ready for TechKnowledge on 1-March
(though 8am is *not* my usual time of day)!<br>
</blockquote>
Yeah, that's 6:00AM San Francisco time, but it's
in the middle of the afternoon Paris time. :)<br>
You will actually be here on Thursday, 23-Feb, too
-- although I suppose you'll be resting up from
your trip? =) I'll be doing the radio show
that morning, too. Every Thursday from 8 to 9.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I may be too tired to be conscious at 6am SF time
after flying in the night before (and taking the
train directly from Chicago to Champaign). So, I
better not commit. Let's talk the night of the 22nd
and see how things are. I get into Champaign on the
train at about 10:30pm.<br>
<br>
Here's my cell phone:<br>
415-377-5993<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> If gmc survived staying
with you, then I'm sure I can too. (Hi gmc!
Cool that you've visited my old home town. :)<br>
<br>
I am booked nights from 26-Feb through 2-March,
for Unit One. But am open for giving a talk any
day or night after that. And if I can stay at
your place, Stewart, then I can stay till the
date we choose. What day is cool? <br>
</blockquote>
So, your return trip is open-ended? 6-March-...
How many days did you have in mind? </blockquote>
<br>
I fly home from Chicago on 13-March. But I'd like
to visit with some family and friends up there for a
few days. I have to leave the Unit One apartment on
the morning of the 6th. If I'll be going to the
meeting at the Urbana Free Library on the 7th, I'll
need to stay at least till that night. The last
train leaves at 6:49pm each night, so I could leave
on the 8th or 9th, depending on if I give an extra
talk. That cool?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> And what should I talk
about? Hackerspaces? How to run your own small
business? How to manufacture your project (and
make a living doing what you love)? TV-B-Gone
and media literacy? Brain Machine? Fuck the
dominant paradigm (and create supportive
community)? How I went from a depressed blob of
a kid to a jet-setting crazy-haired inventor who
loves my life? Something else (I take
requests)?<br>
</blockquote>
I, personally am fascinated to hear about
HackerSpaces in Africa. Geeks & Depression
seems<br>
to be (for better or worse) unique to
NoiseBridge? Or is it? I'd like to hear about
that.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I wish that geeks & depression was unique to
Noisebridge. But, unfortunately, a huge percentage
of geeks are well acquainted with depression all
over the world. I haven't seen any studies, but it
wouldn't surprise me if geeks suffered from
depression more than society at large. Growing up
geek now isn't as bad as it used to be, now that
almost everyone uses gadgets, and everyone knows
that it is up to geeks to create all those cool
gadgets. But it's still not easy growing up geeky.
Being different is such a horrible thing as a kid.
And many of us were teased or bullied or
brutalized. And that makes us escape into our geeky
realms, which keeps us from learning to effectively
deal with others, which makes us more of a target
for bullies, which makes us want to escape more into
our geeky realms (and later in life, into other
means of escape), and the vicious cycle continues.
And as we grow up, we bring our past with us.<br>
<br>
When I wrote the blog post after my friend Ilya
killed himself <a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
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href="https://blog.noisebridge.net/2011/11/19/please-reach-out/"><https://blog.noisebridge.net/2011/11/19/please-reach-out/></a>
I was inundated with comments and emails. This is
when it became clear to me that starting a Geeks
& Depression meetup might be worthwhile. And
now there are more Geeks & Depression meetups
around the world. The Geeks & Depression panel
at 28C3 generate lots of discussions around the
world. All of this open talk about depression has
been helpful for lots of people. And maybe (who
knows) it has encouraged someone to reach out rather
than harm themselves, so that they may live another
day. <br>
<br>
People are still emailing me and others who've
become involved and who've offered to be contacts
whenever people want some support, or someone to
talk or write to.<br>
<br>
I'm organizing a Geeks & Depression panel for
the HOPE #9 conference this July in NYC.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite"> All of those topics --
media literacy, Fuck the dominant paradigm (and
create supportive community) -- are right up the
IMC's alley.<br>
<br>
I have always described the MakerSpace as "an
informal incubator for radical product design",<br>
and we have talked about what to do when a project
takes on a life of its own, goes commercial<br>
and the Intellectual Property stops belonging to
the MakerSpace Collective and starts belonging<br>
to the business. It hasn't happened here yet
(that we know of), but I think it's something that<br>
people would be interested in hearing about.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I'd be happy to lead a discussion about this.
And/or give a talk on whatever people like.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"> Also, is it still OK if I
borrow soldering irons and stands for teaching
at Unit One?<br>
</blockquote>
Yes, we discussed it among the membership and
everyone agreed that it was a good idea.<br>
I volunteered to transport them -- hence, the
plastic bin.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Awesome -- thanks!<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Mitch.<br>
<br>
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