[Imc-outreach] proposed copy policy

Wed Aug 25 17:27:44 CDT 2004

The print characteristics that Zach brings up are all pretty typical of
analog copiers of about two generations ago. 4-up especially is only
possible with digital copiers, which are really scanner/printers and not
xerographic copiers in the conventional sense.

The old analog method of 4-up is to make 4 copies reduced to 25% (or two
passes of 50% reduction) then cut and paste. It's good to get back in
touch with scissors and glue.

--Paul
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Subject: Re: [Imc-outreach] proposed copy policy

While we're on the subject of the copier. I figured I should summarize
my experiences with it:

It doesn't do 4-up, which makes making handbills really difficult. 

It doesn't really align things very well which means you will want
liberal margins on anything you print or else risk having the edges
cut off.

If you are doing anything multi-sided documents it will only do them
in batches of 50.

I don't know if the toner is just low or what but it really didn't
handle anything with large swaths of solid black very well. The image
density has to be set to maximum darkness for solid black (not auto)
to be even slightly passable. Stuff in general doesn't come out very
crisp.

I did run like 700 copies or so and in all those copies the copier
never jammed. That was cool.

The touch pad is a little bit unresponsive. Sometimes you have to kind
of hammer on it to get it to register that you've touched a control.

Ultimately I wouldn't suggest using this copier for anything other
than basic run of the mill copying. It's awesome for that. But if you
are expecting all the whizzy features and quality of a kinkos copier
you will be disappointed.

faith swords wrote:
> i bet laser's edge would give us a discount on paper.
> 
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Zachary C. Miller wrote:
> 
> > It would actually be nice if we could find a means of stockpiling
some
> > paper. We can probably get paper in bulk for cheaper than if
everyone
> > has to buy their own. Then groups/people can pay for a percentage of
> > the paper costs just like they do with the toner costs.
> >
> > Steering could make outside deals, such as with Ian, and any money
> > brought in from those deals could be deducted from operating costs
> > (toner, paper, whatever) before the percentages are charged to
groups.
> >
> > faith swords wrote:
> >> i like it. let's talk about it more at the meeting though. it would
be
> >> nice to figure out a way to allow members to use it who might not
be
> >> particularly affiliated with a working group (and although we would
prefer
> >> members to be involved with at least one group, there are some who
are
> >> unattached, so to speak). but at the moment neither sascha nor
myself can
> >> think of a way to phrase that, or logistically to make it work.
hopefully
> >> we can figure something out later.
> >>
> >> i envision the copier being a resource for the IMC as a whole (the
> >> membership, the groups, etc) much like the library or the
production room.
> >>
> >> anyway, see you tonight.
> >>
> >> --faith
> >>
> >> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Ellen  wrote:
> >>
> >>> OK to get discussion rolling tonight about the copier policy, I
decided to take a stab at one. Feel free to bring changes, ammendments
or whole new policy if you like. I'll bring a couple of copies with me
as well.
> >>>
> >>> See you at tonights meeting at 6pm!
> >>>
> >>> Ellen
> >>> your friendly radical librarian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Proposed UCIMC Copier Policy
> >>> By Ellen Knutson
> >>> August 25, 2004
> >>>
> >>> BASIC POLICY
> >>>
> >>> The copier is for use by UCIMC working groups and steering group
for IMC related business.
> >>>
> >>> Each working group will be given a unique code for the copier.
> >>>
> >>> Each group is responsible for how that code is used. If for any
reason a group wants their code changed they should contact (outreach?
Ellen? Someone else?). Furthermore a group can request more than one
code if they want to track more specifically how the codes are being
used.
> >>>
> >>> Each group is responsible for bringing their own paper. If groups
leave paper in the copier, there is no guarantee that it will be there
the next time they need copies.
> >>>
> >>> If there is paper in the copier, it will be assumed that it is for
general usage. However, this general usage paper should be limited to 25
copies. In other words, if you are making more than 25 copies (that?s
using 25 sheets of paper, not making 25 copies of a 10 page document)
you must supply your own paper.
> >>>
> >>> Approximately quarterly, the groups will be notified about how
many copies they have made and what percentage it is of the total copies
made for that quarter. (Ellen? outreach? someone else? will be
responsible for sending this out)
> >>>
> >>> When it comes time to buy more toner for the copier and/or pay for
maintenance working groups will be expected to chip in based on their
percentage of use.
> >>>
> >>> RATIONALE
> >>>
> >>> I think we should think of a copier as a resource for the IMC that
saves us money, not as something that could be a revenue stream. I do
not think that we currently have the organization to function like a
copy shop, (not to mention our neighbor is a copy shop). I also think
that this is a place to start. I think the policy can be amended and/or
changed when we have a better sense of its operating costs.
> >>>
> >>> WHY YOU MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS POLICY
> >>>
> >>> Following this policy we can?t take Ian?s money and let him make
Canopy Club copies.
> >>>
> >>> It doesn?t specifically allow for courtesy copies (though any
group ? and in reality any person with a code ? can decide to make
courtesy copies for someone)
> >>>
> >>> It seems like too much work to track copy percentages and ?bill?
working groups.
> >>>
> >>> Add your own problem here___________________________________.
> >>>
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