Also, OJC is considering donating a working laser printer to the IMC at their Friday staff meeting. It has been super reliable and can be networked. - D<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Mike Lehman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rebelmike@earthlink.net">rebelmike@earthlink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">I may be wrong, but IIRC isn't the printer sitting on the south ramp the one from GEO?<br>
At least I thought we'd already received it and that one looks like the one that was at GEO.<br>
<br>
The issue that was hanging was whether or not that printer could be networked or not?<br>
<br>
So if it is the GEO printer and we can network it, then we're good. If not, then we're back to square one.<br>
Mike<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 2/16/2011 1:44 PM, Chris Ritzo wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="h5">
I've asked that Brian inquire into the GEO printer and the contract<br>
with IKON, assuming the printer is still available.<br>
<br>
Brian, could you inform the Bookkeeper list with an update when you<br>
hear back from GEO?<br>
<br>
Thanks. -Chris<br>
<br>
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Danielle Chynoweth<<a href="mailto:chyn@ojctech.com" target="_blank">chyn@ojctech.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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thanks chris<br>
<br>
a few things :<br>
<br>
after we got our heads around financials from last year, we approved a<br>
contract for the GEO printer/copier at finance. our only questions were:<br>
can we network it? does it print and not just copy?<br>
<br>
i thought we already had the printer/copier at the IMC - is this not true?<br>
<br>
who can a) get the GEO printer/copier b) set up the contract and have them<br>
invoice the IMC and c) network the bugger so we can use it from multiple<br>
locations?<br>
<br>
what is missing now is not money or decisions but someone to implement a<br>
decision.<br>
<br>
also, is anyone looking at cost of servicing the brother? i don't think we<br>
need to buy a new printer (although having some donated backups is great),<br>
we need to fix the one that we have unless it is more expensive than buying<br>
new.<br>
<br>
OJC has a totally functional laser jet i am close to getting donated.<br>
<br>
- danielle<br>
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On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Chris Ritzo<<a href="mailto:chris.ritzo@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.ritzo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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On behalf of Tech, I just wanted to enter this conversation with a<br>
voice of support for Finance. I can't make it to the meeting on<br>
Thursday at 4:30, but wanted to voice support from tech. Brian and I<br>
will continue to support the installation and configuration of current<br>
or future printers.<br>
<br>
One option that might help temporarily is to clean the print heads.<br>
This may stop jamming temporarily. The manual for the Brother printer<br>
is in the right-hand drawer of the Finance desk which details the<br>
cleaning procedure. This type of routine maintenance is something the<br>
working group should handle (unless there's some sort of maintenance<br>
contract, like is being discussed for a new printer).<br>
<br>
If Finance is still interested in the printer that the GEO was<br>
offering, Brian's contact was Stephanie Seawell at the GEO.<br>
<<a href="mailto:stephseawell@gmail.com" target="_blank">stephseawell@gmail.com</a>>. The Ikon representative for a service<br>
contract for the GEO printer/copier is Jeremy Bennett<br>
<<a href="mailto:jerbennett@ikon.com" target="_blank">jerbennett@ikon.com</a>>. Brian can provide details about appropriate<br>
page counts if this is the direction Finance decides to go.<br>
<br>
As always, if working groups have support requests, please email the<br>
Tech Listserv so we both have a record of the request and can respond<br>
in a timely manner. <a href="mailto:imc-tech@lists.chambana.net" target="_blank">imc-tech@lists.chambana.net</a><br>
<br>
Thanks for doing what you do, Finance! Please let us know what you<br>
decide to do about the printer(s) and where you need Tech's<br>
assistance.<br>
<br>
- Chris R.<br>
<br>
<br>
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On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Jan& Durl Kruse<<a href="mailto:jandurl@comcast.net" target="_blank">jandurl@comcast.net</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
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Just asking, has anyone looked at the 2011 budget to see if monies are<br>
available for this. It's only February and I see under Office&<br>
Business<br>
Expenses $1000 budgeted for media equipment, $1000 for computer<br>
equipment,<br>
and $1250 for photocopier. Can these be modified to allow $300-$500 to<br>
be<br>
placed in line 2104 office equipment. Maybe we need to just slightly<br>
modify<br>
and prioritize our office needs in the budget. There's money in the<br>
budget,<br>
it's just how you want to spend it. Of course, once its gone, its gone,<br>
but<br>
that's not the case now.<br>
Durl<br>
On Feb 14, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Isak Griffiths wrote:<br>
<br>
Hmmm....<br>
I don't think I've expressed either apathy or anger about finance. A<br>
little<br>
confusion sometimes, but seeing as not everything here is self-evident<br>
and<br>
self-explanatory I think that's fair.<br>
I also think it is fair to be frustrated when I can't print out a<br>
membership<br>
form when we are out and someone is ready to write a check for $50.<br>
(Yes,<br>
that has happened, and not everyone will submit a check with a makeshift<br>
membership form.)<br>
An appeal to the membership for a printer? Sounds like a good idea. But<br>
I<br>
suggest it come from a long-standing volunteer and not an americorps<br>
members<br>
whose name no one knows. But if that's going to happen, I'd suggest a<br>
VERY<br>
short email (to encourage reading) that includes two or three key items<br>
that<br>
are strongly needed.<br>
Just my two cents.<br>
Isak<br>
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On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Mike Lehman<<a href="mailto:rebelmike@earthlink.net" target="_blank">rebelmike@earthlink.net</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
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Isak,<br>
There's an easy answer to this. Global Funds are segregated from IMC<br>
funds, so the fact that we have $2000 to send to a global Indymedia<br>
project<br>
unfortunately doesn't mean we have a penny for printers.<br>
<br>
And please don't take this personally, as your question and concern is<br>
a<br>
common one. In fact, it was exactly the problem I was referring to last<br>
night. Finance functions because we spend a lot of time saying no to<br>
perfectly reasonable requests, because there have been no funds raised<br>
to<br>
fund a printer purchase.<br>
<br>
And it's at the root of people displaying first apathy and in some<br>
cases<br>
hostility about what Finance does. It's easy for them to stay angry if<br>
they<br>
don't want to learn more about why Finance does what it does. They just<br>
want<br>
their problem fixed and because there is money around, they see Finance<br>
as<br>
the heavy, since we have to explain our refusal to meet their perfectly<br>
reasonable request.<br>
<br>
Repeat as necessary over 5 to 6 years. Do little fundraising for the<br>
IMC<br>
as a whole. Presume they've done their part. Move on to complaining<br>
about<br>
how Finance is obstructing their big plans because they won't cooperate<br>
with<br>
their perfectly reasonable request -- reasonable at least until the<br>
context<br>
within which a reasonable request is made.<br>
<br>
If Finance hadn't said no to so many people over the last 5 years,<br>
everyone would be happy now? Not likely, as we would have closed the<br>
doors<br>
by now.<br>
<br>
But we still need a printer. Has anyone tried an appeal on the IMC list<br>
for a working printer? Even if we come up with funds for a new one<br>
after the<br>
budget is resolved, it would be good to have a back-up anyway. Maybe<br>
this<br>
could tide us over though?<br>
Mike Lehman<br>
<br>
On 2/14/2011 11:08 AM, Isak Griffiths wrote:<br>
<br>
If we have $2000 to send to San Francisco, what will it take to get<br>
$200<br>
for a printer that works here? Isak<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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