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Leon,<br>
The answer is that yes, Tech is its own entity. That's the meaning
of autonomy. Tech sets its policies based on the resources available
to it, the time available and the priorities it needs to set to
accomplish the mission-critical parts of its work.<br>
<br>
True, we need to be better about communicating this to each other.
Brian probably should've noted that the old CRT monitor (I think
that's what we're talking about, right?) should go to the recycling
pile. Not a big deal, so we shouldn't make a big deal of it. I think
we have an understanding of the concerns now and have a proposed
solution. Recycling is one more thing that Tech shouldn't be
burdened with. Agreed that an opportunity was missed to come up with
a solution, but we have it now.<br>
<br>
If we need an example to understand, here's one. We all know about
the endless stream of requests Finance gets. A lot of this ends up
being someone supposing Finance should do things we don't. For
instance, fundraising or knowing info the working group knows but
doesn't bother communicating to Finance. Finance doesn't do
fundraising, per se, but does support fundraising. <br>
<br>
Finance also can't read the minds of people. People wonder why we
don't have what they think we should, like complete record of
donations and transactions. We have the funds and can account for
them to the best of our ability, but we often don't have the other
info UNLESS working groups take the necessary action of following
their funds and transactions regularly and crosschecking the monthly
reports. Heck, it goes on for years and then people wonder why
Finance doesn't have every cent broken down the way they want it
when they finally get around to checking on this?<br>
<br>
Like everything else at the IMC, Finance and Tech rely on a
cooperative effort with other elements of the IMC and with each
other to make things work. If that cooperation and coordination
doesn't happen we can't really force people to do what someone
believes they should have done first, although we usually figure it
out. <br>
<br>
Please everyone, be patient with each other and don't assume what
the other is supposed to be doing is what you think they should be
doing. Talk with each other and we'll figure this out.<br>
Mike Lehman<br>
<br>
On 4/15/2011 12:19 PM, leon mcgee wrote:
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cite="mid:BANLkTikaP=2i7GqZt_Eidk2ZYM9qj4mc9A@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Sorry I was just following what someone told me to do.
And I did. I told Brian where they came from and he said nothing.
So what am I suppose to do? And I am confused, are you with the
IMC or your own entity? Is it working groups and IMC or is it the
working groups are the IMC? Meaning if working groups are there
own entity, then they should be treated like that.<br>
<br>
<br>
Never the less this to me is the most out of ordered place. I
don't understand. If the IMC (like most building should), has its
own tech crew from the beginning then why is there a problem? And
if working groups ie tech is not technically IMC tech support then
we need to hire are own. Cause when something needs fixing,
sometimes wait for tech is not OK.<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Chris
Ritzo <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chris.ritzo@gmail.com">chris.ritzo@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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padding-left: 1ex;">
Mike: <br>
My mistake about saying "finance"- I agree that this was
confusing. Brian noticed that the monitor had been replaced,
which isn't the same thing. <br>
<br>
Leon:<br>
I agree, it was placed by "Tech" and is IMC property. That
doesn't mean you can just move it somewhere without asking
first, and/or communicating about it. <br>
<br>
A more general inter-group solution is ideal. There will
always be stuff that breaks and need to be recycled or
trashed. <br>
<br>
Tech donations have always been a staple of the IMC- using
stuff that's free or fixing what's broken. Tech just doesn't
have the capacity to do this for every working group anymore.
We will still maintain what we've put in place- the public
computer lab & machines people use. But groups should
really start thinking about building technology costs into
grant proposals and budgets.<br>
<br>
If there are any tech donations that people want to make,
please direct them to me or to Brian before accepting
anything. I realize that sometimes people just "drop stuff
off", and we can't stop that. Honestly, I think we have an
established donation pipeline from Parkland, so we really
don't need to accept any tech donations right now, outside of
special needs- for instance - a brand new, network laser
printer might be nice..<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:29 AM,
Mike Lehman <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rebelmike@earthlink.net"
target="_blank">rebelmike@earthlink.net</a>></span>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Chris,<br>
I agree, absolutely not a Tech responsibility, but
it is a general IMC need.<br>
<br>
A spot for IMC electronics recycling is a great
idea. I hesitate to use Room 26, because it will
tend to fill before something's done about it.<br>
BT,DT <span><span> :-) </span></span><br>
<br>
Maybe it would be best to hold this sort of stuff in
either the boiler room or the janitor room, as we
already hold bulbs for recycling there? That way it
won't be totally out of sight, out of mine and will
remind us that it needs to go when a critical mass
is reached and an event is upcoming.<br>
<br>
Leon,<br>
I know this stuff will sort of be in the way once
there's very much accumulated, but that's the point
-- to remind us it needs to leave then. Does this
sound like it can work? Maybe stack it under the
duct area at the north end of the janitor room?<br>
<br>
Then the designated spot for electronic recycling
could be by the door to the janitor room, which
would also be less in the way in the hall that at
Room 26. And since you're in there almost daily, it
could be moved into the janitor room spot to await
the next recycling run.<br>
Mike
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On 4/15/2011 10:17 AM, Chris Ritzo wrote: </div>
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<div>Tech is not interested in the printer.
Also, Brian informed me that Finance replaced
the program director's monitor and that the
old CRT was taken to the Makerspace without
informing us. I've asked Brian to bring it
back upstairs.<br>
<br>
Tech will help other groups find appropriate
means of recycling non-functioning, or
upgraded equipment. A prime example is when
Jay Schubert & I hauled all the old crap
out of room 26 when there was a recycling
event on campus. <br>
<br>
What we won't do is be every group's storage
dumping ground for equipment you feel isn't
working or needs replaced. Taking the monitor
to Makerspace without telling anyone is a good
example of this. This type of thing can easily
take over Tech's time. Time we could be
spending working on the really awesome stuff
that is getting mentioned by our board members
at a national level. We are not the IMC's
electronics recycler.<br>
<br>
I'd like to suggest that the finance sub-group
which deals with building space issues
designate a place for non-functioning computer
equipment that needs to be recycled by all
working groups and issue communications about
that so that folks know what to do with it.
Maybe that's room 26. When a recycling
opportunity presents itself, tech will pitch
in to help, but it should probably be
coordinated with the building manager.<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 15, 2011
at 10:01 AM, Mike Lehman <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rebelmike@earthlink.net"
target="_blank">rebelmike@earthlink.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> I
kind of think it's just good for a boat
anchor -- and the IMC doesn't own a
boat, yet.<br>
<br>
I'm cc-ing this to Tech in case they
have an interest in it (or Makerspace
maybe?) for parts. etc.<br>
<br>
Otherwise, recycle it once Tech has had
a chance to weigh in.<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
On 4/15/2011 9:53 AM, leon mcgee wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Kristina had
brought this up to me, and I was
wondering the same thing, that if the
dell printer is no longer staying with
us, do we recycle it, give to tech to
use for parts, have it star in Office
Space 2 Revenge of The Printer?<br>
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