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    Chris,<br>
    Yes, there is a reason. Open publishing is required for IMCs as a
    matter of principle. So we need to have something that allows people
    to post and comment anonymously that goes straight to full view.<br>
    <br>
    I know virtually nothing about the backend, but that's the policy
    side of things. Lots of ways to interpret and implement this,
    however.<br>
    <br>
    Lots of things would be easier about editing would be far easier
    without anon publishing. However, I think it is something we've
    always been committed to. Such complexities are why I've been
    keeping notes and outlining what I need to present to those who want
    to help catch written policy up with empirical policy. There are
    several different ideas of how to deal with this in terms of how
    different IMCs have dealt with it, although I've done no surveys of
    the current status of how this is dealt with right now at various
    IMCs. Implementation has varied considerably for the user, so I
    suspect that the code is similarly diverse. Within the Principles of
    Unity, I think we're in a position to come up with something that
    will fit locally policy wise. <br>
    <br>
    That's a lot of work, though. We need to do it eventually, but
    that's more a matter of choice provided there's not a technical
    reason to do something sooner.<br>
    <br>
    You have the power as a Tech admin to decide if anon publishing
    needs to be shut down as an emergency measure. It's happened before,
    but a long time ago, so don't remember any details. Use your best
    judgment and we'll work through things if it turns out it needs to
    be less temporary than anticipated.<br>
    Mike Lehman<br>
    <br>
    On 5/1/2011 7:17 PM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:BANLkTi=FpSuUQEP+-bDRH7f8t+H2BKy30A@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">While attempting to configure the new spam module, I
      found that there is an issue with the way we are doing proxy
      caching which is causing issues with the way the module is
      supposed to work. More spam was coming through, so here's the
      actions I took:<br>
      - disabled Mollom, re-enabled reCaptcha<br>
      - disabled anonymous posting, at least temporarily- discussion
      following..<br>
      <br>
      I suspect that there is a reason we have allowed anonymous
      postings, and I'd like to hear what that reason is as a part of
      the discussion on revamping the website. <br>
      <br>
      My personal feeling is that I'm not sure it's really necessary to
      allow completely anonymous users to post to the site, essentially
      requiring us to monitor and control for spam like this. Since
      logged in users can change the "author" of the post to appear as
      anonymous, I suggest that we make it apparent that this can be
      done in the redesign, and require people to register on the
      website in order to post comments, stories, etc.<br>
      <br>
      Thoughts? -CR<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Chris
        Ritzo <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:chris.ritzo@gmail.com">chris.ritzo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
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          I just changed the settings so all forms use mollom's captcha&nbsp;
          not textual analysis. let me know if the spam continues.<br>
          <font color="#888888"><br>
            Chris</font>
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            <div class="h5"><br>
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                On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Mike Lehman <span
                  dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:rebelmike@earthlink.net"
                    target="_blank">rebelmike@earthlink.net</a>&gt;</span>
                wrote:<br>
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                  <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> With my set-up,
                    when I'm not signed into my account I can see a link
                    to the Mollom privacy policy, but do not see any
                    actual captchas.<br>
                    <br>
                    Could be unrelated, but we're getting a bunch of
                    mortgage spam over the last couple of hours.<br>
                    <font color="#888888"> Mike Lehman</font>
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                      <div><br>
                        <br>
                        On 5/1/2011 3:33 PM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
                        <blockquote type="cite">all: <br>
                          I've just switched the IMC site from the
                          reCaptcha module to the Mollom module. All
                          forms that are exposed to non-authenticated
                          users should now be protected either by
                          captchas or by Mollom's textual analysis.. For
                          those monitoring posts, I'm hoping this
                          reduces the amount of spam posts that you see.
                          please confirm if you note this.<br>
                          <br>
                          Thanks,<br>
                          Chris<br>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 29, 2011
                            at 3:05 PM, Mike Lehman <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:rebelmike@earthlink.net"
                                target="_blank">rebelmike@earthlink.net</a>&gt;</span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                                Found a little info that may be
                                relevant. <br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/security/mozilla-patches-firefox-4-fixes-programming-bungle"
                                  target="_blank">http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/security/mozilla-patches-firefox-4-fixes-programming-bungle</a><br>
                                <br>
                                Seems one of the fixes in FF 4.0.1 was
                                to deal with a MS issue with ASLR in
                                Vista and 7 that made them "making the
                                flaw as exploitable on those platforms
                                as it would be on Windows XP or other
                                platforms." <br>
                                <br>
                                Maybe when they fixed things in Vista
                                and 7, they broke cpatchas in XP? Just
                                speculation, but since many things funky
                                lead back to MS, this wouldn't surprise
                                me.<br>
                                <font color="#888888"> Mike Lehman</font>
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                                    On 4/29/2011 1:32 PM, Mike Lehman
                                    wrote:
                                    <blockquote type="cite"> Chris,<br>
                                      More info. I tried a test post on
                                      my other machine. Entered the
                                      displayed captcha, hit Save and --
                                      then it gave me an error message
                                      and no longer displayed any
                                      captcha. Now that I've seen it
                                      twice, it was the same thing that
                                      happened the first time a couple
                                      of days ago, as I was trying a
                                      test post then, too.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      You can sign in and out of your
                                      account, everything's fine there,
                                      but you never get the captchas
                                      back so that it's possible to post
                                      when not logged in.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      My guess now is that this is an
                                      issue with Firefox. It's actually
                                      Firefox 4.0.1 that I'm running on
                                      both machines.<br>
                                      Mike Lehman<br>
                                      <br>
                                      On 4/29/2011 11:05 AM, Chris Ritzo
                                      wrote:
                                      <blockquote type="cite">Thanks for
                                        documenting your troubleshooting
                                        Mike. I haven't had a chance to
                                        look into this yet, and it
                                        appears that the issue is
                                        inconsistent. I've had good
                                        results using the Mollom module
                                        for captchas on other sites and
                                        I'm thinking of just switching
                                        the IMC site to that. It uses a
                                        web service to do the captchas
                                        and will also do textual
                                        analysis on fields which is an
                                        added layer of spam protection.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Chris<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri,
                                          Apr 29, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mike
                                          Lehman <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:rebelmike@earthlink.net"
                                              target="_blank">rebelmike@earthlink.net</a>&gt;</span>
                                          wrote:<br>
                                          <blockquote
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                                            solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
                                            padding-left: 1ex;"> After
                                            some poking around...<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Still no captchas on my
                                            usual machine, even after
                                            several reboots. On my
                                            laptop, captchas are there.
                                            Both machines are running XP
                                            SP3 and the latest version
                                            of Firefox (4.0), so not
                                            sure why they just went MIA
                                            on the one.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            And the captchas seem to be
                                            there for others, as we've
                                            had some of the usual spam
                                            and one legitimate post
                                            since I first noticed the
                                            problem.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            This seemed superficially
                                            similar to the issue we've
                                            had several times lately
                                            where someone accidentally
                                            turned captchas off. Chris
                                            indicated that he'd reset
                                            that the last time it
                                            happened and remove it from
                                            the editor's menu so it
                                            couldn't happen again.
                                            However, that doesn't seem
                                            to be the case here, as I
                                            can get captchas on my
                                            alternate machine.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            I realize that this may just
                                            be my problem, but wanted to
                                            document it in case someone
                                            else runs into the same
                                            issue. I made no changes in
                                            settings AFAIK before this
                                            happened.<br>
                                            Mike
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                                              <div><br>
                                                <br>
                                                On 4/27/2011 5:44 PM,
                                                Mike Lehman wrote:<br>
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                                                <div> Sometime today,
                                                  the captchas
                                                  disappeared from the
                                                  website.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Mike Lehman<br>
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