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Chris,<br>
Thanks for the update. Looks like things are OK now, but overnight
is the problem time for spam so we'll see. Yeah, if the monthly
limit is 1,000 spams, there's no way to keep up with crap we
attract. Not sure how effective Mollom is as far as using the
reporting feature, which I typically do, because I see pretty much
the same stuff get through it so doesn't appear to learn from the
resources expended to do that.<br>
<br>
Yeah, quite familiar with the balance between anonymous posting and
spam tolerance. We're stuck with some form of anonymous posting as
an IMC -- unless we no longer desire to keep that commitment. Short
of dropping that, there are several policy changes that could help
with that I could suggest, for instance a blog separate from the
Newswire's so that Local Yokel can chat with the faux-cop troll at
his leisure, for instance, but no one seems much interested in the
problems of web editing. Which is not really Tech's responsibility,
but which no doubt creates issues that require Tech resources to
implement.<br>
<br>
I'd be glad to drop this baby in someone else's lap, but am sticking
with it for now in the interests of consistency. Eventually, I grow
weary...<br>
And the website will be virtually useless in short order without
human intervention.<br>
Mike<br>
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On 12/9/2011 10:23 AM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
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cite="mid:CAGUX1UUAOpE=QOg0X+KgaBd_2Q1gbwPrUjo2Fq-4WJ6QE1c3BQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Mike,<br>
<div><br>
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<div>I just made an adjustment to the comment form, enabling text
analysis for spam protection rather than the captcha. One of the
issues that's certainly causing some spam is that the service
we're using (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.mollom.com">http://www.mollom.com</a>) is
free up to a certain number of legit posts and spam blocks. The
IMC site is regularly going over that limit, so I imagine what's
happening is that we hit the limit and then spam gets through.
To improve this, the IMC can consider paying for the Mollom Plus
service, which is <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:
rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
255); ">30 EUR/month for up to 1000 legit posts per day and up
to 1000 correct captchas per day. It also offers better
performance.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:
13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:
13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Anyone else on
the tech list have ideas about better spam blocking on a
Drupal site? </span></div>
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<div>Beyond that, monitoring spam posts is just a fact of life of
sites like ours where open & anonymous posts are allowed.
Spam monitoring in general is a full time job that people
actually get paid to do- part of a larger conversation I'm
trying to open in our circles about the actual costs of tech
infrastructure and support which needs to be addressed. A
volunteer working group or volunteer web editors just don't have
the capacity or interest in becoming spam monitors. I think this
every time I log into one of our Mailman lists to clean out
spam.</div>
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<div>Anyway, I'll bring this up at our next board meeting, but if
you could let me know if the above change has an effect on spam
comments that would be awesome.</div>
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<div>Chris</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Mike
Lehman <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rebelmike@earthlink.net">rebelmike@earthlink.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
The website was back up and mass delete is working again
this morning, so I cleaned up 500+ pieces of spam that
arrived last night<br>
<br>
Makes me wonder...Is there anyway that a "duplicate post" or
other such dialogue that interrupted the posting process
could be inserted if the title is the same to prevent such
abuse? If N=>2, it would throw a wrench in the automated
process used (posts were coming in at around 10/minute at
its height) since I doubt a human was doing it that rapidly,
without being too obtrusive to legitimate posting?<br>
<br>
Anyway, something like that is what I want for Xmas...or
maybe someone else that pays enough attention to the website
to help clean up the crap from time to time.<span
class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Mike</font></span>
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On 12/9/2011 12:22 AM, Mike Lehman wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
The spammers are busy tonight. I deleted a hundred or
so earlier with the mass delete option box checked.<br>
<br>
Came back and there's lots more. This time, I get an
error messages when trying to do the same thing:<br>
"An illegal choice has been detected. Please contact
the site administrator."<br>
<br>
Then the server crashed -- or something. Connection is
timing out. Probably sack time, so if anyone gets the
chance to clean things up once it's working, indulge
yourself.<br>
Mike<br>
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