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I see I misread and the spam limit is 1,000/day. There are days like
that, but not often, FWIW. <br>
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Still a lot of guts on the floor everyday...<br>
Mike<br>
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On 12/9/2011 12:43 PM, Mike Lehman wrote:
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Chris,<br>
Thanks for the update. Looks like things are OK now, but overnight
is the problem time for spam so we'll see. Yeah, if the monthly
limit is 1,000 spams, there's no way to keep up with crap we
attract. Not sure how effective Mollom is as far as using the
reporting feature, which I typically do, because I see pretty much
the same stuff get through it so doesn't appear to learn from the
resources expended to do that.<br>
<br>
Yeah, quite familiar with the balance between anonymous posting
and spam tolerance. We're stuck with some form of anonymous
posting as an IMC -- unless we no longer desire to keep that
commitment. Short of dropping that, there are several policy
changes that could help with that I could suggest, for instance a
blog separate from the Newswire's so that Local Yokel can chat
with the faux-cop troll at his leisure, for instance, but no one
seems much interested in the problems of web editing. Which is not
really Tech's responsibility, but which no doubt creates issues
that require Tech resources to implement.<br>
<br>
I'd be glad to drop this baby in someone else's lap, but am
sticking with it for now in the interests of consistency.
Eventually, I grow weary...<br>
And the website will be virtually useless in short order without
human intervention.<br>
Mike<br>
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On 12/9/2011 10:23 AM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
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cite="mid:CAGUX1UUAOpE=QOg0X+KgaBd_2Q1gbwPrUjo2Fq-4WJ6QE1c3BQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Mike,<br>
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<div>I just made an adjustment to the comment form, enabling
text analysis for spam protection rather than the captcha. One
of the issues that's certainly causing some spam is that the
service we're using (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.mollom.com">http://www.mollom.com</a>) is
free up to a certain number of legit posts and spam blocks.
The IMC site is regularly going over that limit, so I imagine
what's happening is that we hit the limit and then spam gets
through. To improve this, the IMC can consider paying for the
Mollom Plus service, which is <span class="Apple-style-span"
style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Geneva, Arial,
Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color:
rgb(255, 255, 255); ">30 EUR/month for up to 1000 legit
posts per day and up to 1000 correct captchas per day. It
also offers better performance.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51,
51); font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51,
51); font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Anyone
else on the tech list have ideas about better spam blocking
on a Drupal site? </span></div>
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<div>Beyond that, monitoring spam posts is just a fact of life
of sites like ours where open & anonymous posts are
allowed. Spam monitoring in general is a full time job that
people actually get paid to do- part of a larger conversation
I'm trying to open in our circles about the actual costs of
tech infrastructure and support which needs to be addressed. A
volunteer working group or volunteer web editors just don't
have the capacity or interest in becoming spam monitors. I
think this every time I log into one of our Mailman lists to
clean out spam.</div>
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<div>Anyway, I'll bring this up at our next board meeting, but
if you could let me know if the above change has an effect on
spam comments that would be awesome.</div>
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<div>Chris</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Mike
Lehman <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rebelmike@earthlink.net">rebelmike@earthlink.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> The
website was back up and mass delete is working again this
morning, so I cleaned up 500+ pieces of spam that arrived
last night<br>
<br>
Makes me wonder...Is there anyway that a "duplicate post"
or other such dialogue that interrupted the posting
process could be inserted if the title is the same to
prevent such abuse? If N=>2, it would throw a wrench in
the automated process used (posts were coming in at around
10/minute at its height) since I doubt a human was doing
it that rapidly, without being too obtrusive to legitimate
posting?<br>
<br>
Anyway, something like that is what I want for Xmas...or
maybe someone else that pays enough attention to the
website to help clean up the crap from time to time.<span
class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Mike</font></span>
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On 12/9/2011 12:22 AM, Mike Lehman wrote:<br>
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The spammers are busy tonight. I deleted a hundred
or so earlier with the mass delete option box
checked.<br>
<br>
Came back and there's lots more. This time, I get an
error messages when trying to do the same thing:<br>
"An illegal choice has been detected. Please contact
the site administrator."<br>
<br>
Then the server crashed -- or something. Connection
is timing out. Probably sack time, so if anyone gets
the chance to clean things up once it's working,
indulge yourself.<br>
Mike<br>
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