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OK, now I see them, there's a time lag in the system now after
posting. That may result it the occasional double post as people
won't see the post immediately after posting as has been the case. <br>
<br>
So, no need to worry that anonymous posting is down, just slightly
delayed.<br>
Mike<br>
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On 12/10/2011 8:29 AM, Mike Lehman wrote:
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Chris,<br>
I noticed this morning that anonymous comments aren't working. I'm
pretty sure that they were working after you made the adjustments
yesterday, so not sure if something else was changed or ?<br>
Mike<br>
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On 12/9/2011 12:43 PM, Mike Lehman wrote:
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Chris,<br>
Thanks for the update. Looks like things are OK now, but
overnight is the problem time for spam so we'll see. Yeah, if
the monthly limit is 1,000 spams, there's no way to keep up with
crap we attract. Not sure how effective Mollom is as far as
using the reporting feature, which I typically do, because I see
pretty much the same stuff get through it so doesn't appear to
learn from the resources expended to do that.<br>
<br>
Yeah, quite familiar with the balance between anonymous posting
and spam tolerance. We're stuck with some form of anonymous
posting as an IMC -- unless we no longer desire to keep that
commitment. Short of dropping that, there are several policy
changes that could help with that I could suggest, for instance
a blog separate from the Newswire's so that Local Yokel can chat
with the faux-cop troll at his leisure, for instance, but no one
seems much interested in the problems of web editing. Which is
not really Tech's responsibility, but which no doubt creates
issues that require Tech resources to implement.<br>
<br>
I'd be glad to drop this baby in someone else's lap, but am
sticking with it for now in the interests of consistency.
Eventually, I grow weary...<br>
And the website will be virtually useless in short order without
human intervention.<br>
Mike<br>
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On 12/9/2011 10:23 AM, Chris Ritzo wrote:
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cite="mid:CAGUX1UUAOpE=QOg0X+KgaBd_2Q1gbwPrUjo2Fq-4WJ6QE1c3BQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Mike,<br>
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<div>I just made an adjustment to the comment form, enabling
text analysis for spam protection rather than the captcha.
One of the issues that's certainly causing some spam is that
the service we're using (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.mollom.com">http://www.mollom.com</a>) is
free up to a certain number of legit posts and spam blocks.
The IMC site is regularly going over that limit, so I
imagine what's happening is that we hit the limit and then
spam gets through. To improve this, the IMC can consider
paying for the Mollom Plus service, which is <span
class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">30
EUR/month for up to 1000 legit posts per day and up to
1000 correct captchas per day. It also offers better
performance.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51,
51); font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51,
51); font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Anyone
else on the tech list have ideas about better spam
blocking on a Drupal site? </span></div>
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<div>Beyond that, monitoring spam posts is just a fact of life
of sites like ours where open & anonymous posts are
allowed. Spam monitoring in general is a full time job that
people actually get paid to do- part of a larger
conversation I'm trying to open in our circles about the
actual costs of tech infrastructure and support which needs
to be addressed. A volunteer working group or volunteer web
editors just don't have the capacity or interest in becoming
spam monitors. I think this every time I log into one of our
Mailman lists to clean out spam.</div>
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<div>Anyway, I'll bring this up at our next board meeting, but
if you could let me know if the above change has an effect
on spam comments that would be awesome.</div>
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<div>Chris</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 9:06 AM,
Mike Lehman <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rebelmike@earthlink.net">rebelmike@earthlink.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> The
website was back up and mass delete is working again
this morning, so I cleaned up 500+ pieces of spam that
arrived last night<br>
<br>
Makes me wonder...Is there anyway that a "duplicate
post" or other such dialogue that interrupted the
posting process could be inserted if the title is the
same to prevent such abuse? If N=>2, it would throw a
wrench in the automated process used (posts were coming
in at around 10/minute at its height) since I doubt a
human was doing it that rapidly, without being too
obtrusive to legitimate posting?<br>
<br>
Anyway, something like that is what I want for Xmas...or
maybe someone else that pays enough attention to the
website to help clean up the crap from time to time.<span
class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Mike</font></span>
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On 12/9/2011 12:22 AM, Mike Lehman wrote:<br>
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The spammers are busy tonight. I deleted a hundred
or so earlier with the mass delete option box
checked.<br>
<br>
Came back and there's lots more. This time, I get
an error messages when trying to do the same
thing:<br>
"An illegal choice has been detected. Please
contact the site administrator."<br>
<br>
Then the server crashed -- or something.
Connection is timing out. Probably sack time, so
if anyone gets the chance to clean things up once
it's working, indulge yourself.<br>
Mike<br>
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