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This is a good point - though I think that it comes out to be mainly
a point about getting into streaming altogether, rather than about
choosing local vs. cloud service for a piece of the streaming
setup. To do streaming at all, we *have* to have one local
computer involved in the process - we can't stream if that goes
down, or loses its internet connection, or if its audio capture path
flakes out, etc. So I see the key choice not as between needing
local support vs paying for someone else's reliable service, but
between requiring local support for one computer vs. two of them -
or else not taking on streaming.<br>
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Assuming we do go with our own server, I'm assuming I would be (the
first person to be) in charge of administering it. <br>
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But yes, it would in any case be crucial to have multiple people who
know how to administer whatever streaming tech we use!<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Although I'm sure we have PCs that could be used
for this purpose I'm not sure that this is the best way to go.
Who will be in charge of administration of the server? Is there
a transition plan in place for when that person moves on for
whatever reason?
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<div>We are currently having this problem with <a
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I realize that it often seems more cost effective in the
beginning to use home grown solutions but in the end they
often end up costing more (or dying) because no one is willing
to take on the work for free.</div>
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<div>Just my two cents.</div>
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<div>I ditto Gergana and Jay. Also, I can show you where
the office has a couple of donated units and there is an
Apple unit under the far side desk of the Public i
office/groups room next to the office. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm pretty sure there are still
10-15 donated machines in the janitor's closet
opposite BTP which the board decided should be
for IMC projects as first priority. They're
core 2 duos and there are also stacks of hdd's
and most of the machines have ram. I think
the ones with red dots all post. There are
also lcd monitors down there.
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<div>Hey all,<br>
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I'm not sure how best to ask something
of the Makerspace in general -<br>
hope you don't mind it going to you.<br>
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Question: does Makerspace, or the IMC
in general, have a spare PC in<br>
good condition - *even a stripped
one,* lacking disk or RAM - which<br>
could become WRFU's dedicated internet
streaming server? If so, could<br>
I have it? I'd like to populate it
with any needed hardware and set<br>
it up somewhere.<br>
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Details:<br>
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WRFU still aims to start internet
streaming, hopefully close to the turn<br>
of the year. Don McClure and I were
talking about this last night.<br>
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Chris Ritzo had set up a demonstration
server using AirTime<br>
software+service, during the October
anniversary gathering. It worked<br>
well, but depended on using AirTime's
cloud servers -- which meant we<br>
got support (good) but have limited
& expensive storage for archiving<br>
programming (not so good). The
service also costs about $500/year for<br>
a reasonable number of streams (not
great either).<br>
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It's supposedly also possible to
install the same AirTime software onto<br>
a *local* computer, let it be the
streaming source, and archive programs<br>
onto its filesystems. Then we could
archive lots of programs, and<br>
wouldn't need to pay AirTime's cloud
charges, at the cost of having to<br>
maintain and back up the machine
ourselves. I think that's the best<br>
way to go.<br>
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Am hoping there's a donated
shell-of-a-PC which could serve.
AirTime<br>
is supported under Ubuntu 12.04 LTS,
so I'd probably install that. I<br>
would go and buy any needed hardware
to make it functional.<br>
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We'd need to find a good place for it
where it'd (a) have a good<br>
internet connection, (b) be reasonably
accessible but (c) be fairly<br>
protected from temperature extremes,
being tripped over, etc.<br>
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