[IMC-US] IMC-US Proposal: DECISION-DEADLINE -- Friday Noon EST.

Tribal Scribal valeoftheoaks at hotmail.com
Sun Aug 8 18:48:52 CDT 2004 

Sooooo, can we deal w/this addition and conscence on the proposal? We have 
less than 3 weeks before RNC stuff begins.


d.o.



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>From: deva <drdartist at riseup.net>
>To: imc-us at lists.cu.groogroo.com
>Subject: Re: [IMC-US] IMC-US Proposal: DECISION-DEADLINE -- Friday Noon 
>EST.
>Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:53:02 -0700
>
>editorial policy regarding hiding posts to the newswire
>
>deva
>
>
>On Jul 28, 2004, at 6:49 PM, Sascha Meinrath wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Chris Anderson wrote:
>>
>>>agreed. how do we test for consensus on the internet? it seems like
>>>we've almost got it :)
>>
>>are there any more concerns on the table that haven't been addressed?
>>how about we set a deadline of friday Noon EST for bringing them up and if
>>the table remains clear we move forward with implementation.
>>
>>--sascha
>>
>>>--- Tribal Scribal <valeoftheoaks at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>(applause, applause!)  :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: max <max at michiganimc.org>
>>>>>To: john duda <john at manifestor.org>
>>>>>CC: imc-us at lists.cu.groogroo.com
>>>>>Subject: Re: [IMC-US] a proposal
>>>>>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:27:57 -0700
>>>>>
>>>>>ok, so the proposal has been amended to include an
>>>>open publishing newswire
>>>>>like www.indymedia.org (linked to from the front
>>>>page but not visible on
>>>>>the front page).
>>>>>
>>>>>I think we're getting somewhere...
>>>>>
>>>>>max
>>>>>
>>>>>---
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Quoting john duda <john at manifestor.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>if this is the editorial proposal we want to go
>>>>with(no open
>>>>>>publishing, more editorial voice than a purely
>>>>syndication site), i
>>>>>>would suggest that we *either* give up the url
>>>>>>"us.indymedia.org"(leaving us with indymedia.us)
>>>>and the other
>>>>>>associated rights of being an "official"
>>>>imc(syndication by global
>>>>>>newswire, link in the cities.inc sidebar file)
>>>>*or* submit the
>>>>>>proposed editorial policy to imc-process,
>>>>explaining our reasons for
>>>>>>not wanting to offer open publishing, in order
>>>>to give the network a
>>>>>>chance to object before we launch the site
>>>>officially.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>personally i'd prefer open-publishing....seems
>>>>simpler...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>john
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 04:14:09PM -0700, max
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>proposed by members of michiganIMC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I. "featurewire" policy:
>>>>>>>fully automated, syndicated wire of all
>>>>features from US IMCs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>II. center column policy:
>>>>>>>-the center column is the place to feature:
>>>>>>>	1) articles promoted from the featurewire
>>>>>>>		-these articles will be either:
>>>>>>>		a) bumped to the center column with no
>>>>changes from the feature wire
>>>>>>>		b) bumped to the center column with spelling
>>>>and grammar corrections
>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>needed
>>>>>>>		c) bumped to the center column with added
>>>>links and content with the
>>>>>>>exclusive purpose of adding context for a
>>>>US-wide 		audience
>>>>>>>	2) articles written by an editorial team
>>>>specifically for US-IMC
>>>>>>>		a) these articles will be written
>>>>collaboratively over an email
>>>>>list,
>>>>>>in a
>>>>>>>very similar fashion to global
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>III.  additional criteria for center column:
>>>>>>>	1) center column features should be articles
>>>>produced by local IMCs
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>content relevant to the US-IMC readers
>>>>>>>	2) center column features should be original
>>>>features compiled by the
>>>>>>>US-IMC editorial team
>>>>>>>	3) there will be an emphasis on featuring
>>>>articles produced by local
>>>>>>IMCs
>>>>>>>rather than by the US editorial group
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>IV. process:
>>>>>>>	1) there will be a US-IMC editorial group
>>>>that will communicate over
>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>email list.
>>>>>>>	2) this group will work out a more detailed
>>>>policy regarding the
>>>>>>promotion
>>>>>>>of features to the center column from the
>>>>featurewire as 	    needed.
>>>>>>>	3) if articles from the featurewire fall
>>>>within the criteria for the
>>>>>>center
>>>>>>>column, they can be promoted immediately by
>>>>any individual with
>>>>>>>editorial access.
>>>>>>>	4) original articles produced by the US
>>>>editorial group will follow a
>>>>>>>similar process to global (proposal --> 6hrs
>>>>without blocking -->
>>>>>>publish -
>>>>>>>this can be articulated in greater detail if
>>>>people want)
>>>>>>>	5) the email list and the internal message
>>>>boards in Mir will be used
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>inter-group communication
>>>>>>>	6) the editorial group is open to anyone who
>>>>is already working on a
>>>>>>local
>>>>>>>IMC in the US
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>---
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Quoting Joshua Breitbart
>>>><breitbart at indymedia.org>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"live" is such a relative term anyway. Does
>>>>it mean when the
>>>>>>indymedia.us
>>>>>>>>url is
>>>>>>>>pointed to it? Or when we actually start
>>>>promoting it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The site won't start getting much traffic
>>>>until it has something
>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>than an
>>>>>>>>untouched syndication feed. We need at least
>>>>to be able to provide
>>>>>>some
>>>>>>>>context
>>>>>>>>for the links, expand or reduce the
>>>>abstracts, and correct typos.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>John - I'd like an account. But is there any
>>>>editorial management at
>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>as its
>>>>>>>>currently configured? Seems like the
>>>>features wire just rolls along.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think it would be really incongruous to
>>>>once in a while all of a
>>>>>>sudden
>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>breaking news pop up on the site.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My main concern is that the site be most
>>>>useful with the least
>>>>>>possible
>>>>>>>>effort.
>>>>>>>>That means a constantly updated center
>>>>column. For that, we should
>>>>>>allow
>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>multiple ways to access the center column.
>>>>The easiest way to do
>>>>>that
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>simply
>>>>>>>>to be able to bump up features from the wire
>>>>and that will probably
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>primary source of content. But we'd be
>>>>making our lives more
>>>>>>difficult if
>>>>>>>>we
>>>>>>>>close off the option of being able to post
>>>>features directly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Josh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Quoting max <max at michiganimc.org>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>=== message truncated ===
>>>
>>>
>>>
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