[IMC-US] PROPOSAL: Defining decision making ont he site (deadline1/12/05)

[Chris Anderson]

Hi all,

NYC IMC finally got its syndication fixed :) Now that
we're back here and global imc, hopefully more ny'ers
will be invovled.

query: is there a separate editorial list that makes
center column decisions, in additon to this list).

Secondly, I hope that Andy's objections will be the
start to some actual discussion of bht's proposal. I
dont know who I actually agree with yet, so I'm hoping
there will be more discussion. I

chris
--- Andy Pyle <andypie at earthlink.net> wrote:

> I take complete exception to this proposal.  I think
> it is a bad idea.   This is a block.
> 
> 1). making people political decision makers because
> of technical expertise is the road to
> capitalism.  This was one the things contributing to
> the restoration of capitalism in the
> old USSR.   The project becomes a form of "property"
> and the techs become the "owners".
> 
> 2).  US Indymedia is a nationwide project and the
> direction of the site should be subject
> to control by the various US based Indymedias, not
> by a tiny group who have gotten
> themselves on the inside.  (I recognize that it was
> their conception and they have done
> all the work - that's not my point.)
> 
> 3).  It seems that the present editorial direction
> of US Indymedia represents mostly only
> one political trend, i.e. those who think electoral
> politics is important.  Freezing all
> decision making to those currently doing the work
> might shut out other viewpoints, which I
> believe are in the majority in Indymedia overall.
> 
> 4).  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
> 
> 
> This is my own personal opinion and I am not
> speaking as a delegate from
> cleveland.indymedia.
> 
> To reiterate, this is a block.
> 
> bht wrote:
> 
> > I would like to add a bit to the section "how it
> works"
> > http://indymedia.us/en/static/howitworks.shtml
> >
> > currently there are three points a out how the
> site works, it doesnt offer
> > anything about how changes are made to the site
> and how decision are made.
> >  portland indymedia uses this clause:
> >
> > All working groups recognize that the contribution
> of an individual's
> > labor is a prerequisite for participation in the
> decision making process
> > of a working group or at a portland indymedia
> general meeting. Individuals
> > who are not committing tangible labor to a
> portland indymedia working
> > group are encouraged to share their views but may
> not "block" a consensus.
> >
> > I would like to add something quite similar to the
> indymedia.us working
> > group, something like "indymedia.us working group
> ecognizes that the
> > contribution of an individuals labor is a
> prerequisite for decisionmaking
> > pertaining to the indymedia.us website. 
> Individuals not committing
> > tangible labor, through site design, tech support,
> editorial work, etc.
> > are encouraged to share their views, but may not
> prevent the indymedia.us
> > site from moving in the direction that committed
> individuals agree upon."
> >
> > that is wordy and it sounds bad, forgive my lack
> on conciseness in
> > guidelines :-)
> >
> > basically, as I stated in a previous mail, there
> are only a handful of
> > folks that are committing tangible labor to the
> site, and really try to
> > make it viable.  right now it is just another
> website tha tis muddled from
> > lack of vision but looks really nice.
> >
> > lets do something with it.  I am putting a
> deadline on this proposal for
> > the 12 of January.  I dont know the best course to
> get people to really
> > discuss what they want this site to be, but I want
> the folks that are
> > doing alot of work on it (and admittedly, I am not
> one of them) to be able
> > to make decisions without worry of all these
> silent email addys on the
> > list.
> >
> > the next mass usage of this site will probably be
> the inaugural.  have
> > people thought about what role this site will play
> for that?
> >
> > so, i think i have exhausted my point.
> > bht
> >
> > --
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