[Imc] hiding a story

Sascha Meinrath meinrath at urbana.indymedia.org
Tue Sep 18 16:34:18 UTC 2001


i've spent a good deal of time this morning trying to track down any 
information about this story and haven't found anything -- nothing in the 
UNC student paper, nothing in the local obits, nothing in a more general 
google search by the people's names and other keywords.  if this story is 
true, then it's a very well-kept secret -- though i encourage others to try 
to find info.  given that names are used, given that the person posted 
anonymously without giving us any way to check their (very serious) 
allegations, and given that i can't find anything about this story, i think 
hiding the story is appropriate.  there are many ways to make the same 
statements about light sentencing without using people's names.  i think 
the post should be removed from our website until we can find some form of 
supporting information.

--sascha

At 08:17 AM 09/18/01 Tuesday, Brian Hagy wrote:

>i don't understand why this was hidden.  it's not advocating the killing
>of someone, merely pointing out the puny sentence the judge found
>necessary.  and it's reporting from a parent's perspective. besides, how
>much of what we have on our website is truly verifible?  in light of that,
>i support unhiding it, else we become censors, and hide everything we
>can't verify (which would cover a large amount of our material on the
>web).
>
>brian
>
>
>On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Paul Riismandel wrote:
>
> > I want to let people know that I hid a story on the website today.  It has
> > nothing to do with terrorism or threats.  I hid it because it contained
> > potentially libelous information that cannot be reasonably checked and the
> > person who left it left no name, e-mail or any other way to contact.
> >
> > You can see the text below.  If anyone has an objection I will unhide it,
> > though I think it best to xxx out names even so.  I think any final 
> decision
> > should be made at the steering meeting this week.
> >
> > The article was called:"23 year old son killed by nc teacher"
> >
> > Here is the text (note that i removed the names since that is what could be
> > considered libelous and the imc list is archived on the web):
> > "My 23 yr old son xxxxx was killed in February of 2001. He was killed by a
> > 36 year old man, xxxxx that has a teaching certificate and is pursuing his
> > doctorate at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, NC. My son was
> > invited to this man's house and was unarmed. This man went to his 
> closet and
> > got his 45 handgun out of the bedroom closet, unzipped the case, took the
> > gun and holster out of the case, took the gun out of the holster, ejected a
> > bullet to make sure that there was a bullet in the gun's 
> chamber(loaded) and
> > killed my son with a shot to my son's chest. The bullet pierced my son's
> > heart and did massive internal damage. My son was not armed, did not try to
> > fight because the man had the gun aimed at my son's chest from about 3 feet
> > away. My son pled for his life but was shot and killed anyway. This killer
> > is a teacher and pursuing a doctorate in education, he pled guilty to
> > involuntary manslaughter. Will serve time in jail on weekends for a couple
> > of months and is on probation for 4 years. Apparently the value of my son's
> > life was not very important. My son leaves behind families and friends that
> > are appalled at this injustice. My son's wife will have to raise their 2
> > small boys and their baby that was just born earlier this month. Is there
> > any justice at all left in America?"
> >
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