[Makerspace-keymembers] Possible future SCA-and-Makerspace brew days, and a quick breakdown of this one?

[Emily Knox]

Why don't we go ahead and plan for July 16th.

Emily

On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 11:44 PM, Amy Williams <miss.awilliams at gmail.com>
wrote:

> If you want help from Andy, the 16th would be better. He's out of town on
> the 23rd.
>
> On Apr 24, 2016, at 9:15 PM, Dena Strong <dena.strong at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I was hoping to hear back from the chemistry group on whether they have a
> weekend preference, but they're pretty swamped with finals prep. How about
> the 16th or 23rd?
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Emily Knox <emilyknox at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Any weekends in July that work for everyone?  Probably the 9th, 16th, or
>> 23rd since the first weekend is July 4th.
>>
>> Emily
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Gergana Slavova <
>> gergana.s.slavova at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Let's do July, in this case.  Pick a weekend that's good for you and
>>> we'll bookmark that date.
>>>
>>> ~Gergana
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Dena Strong <dena.strong at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yay, more brewing collaborations! :)
>>>>
>>>> What's the most appealing time frame for folks? Close-term,
>>>> medium-term, or summer?
>>>>
>>>> How much I personally could be involved would depend on the specific
>>>> month as much as the specific weekend. My own schedule is kind of crazy for
>>>> the next three months - I could help with something on April 16 (if it's
>>>> mead or cider), May 14-ish or 28-ish, or some time in July or August.
>>>>
>>>> However, I suspect April 16 would be a pretty tight advertising and
>>>> scheduling turnaround and it'd have to be cider or mead because I don't
>>>> think we'd have time to prep a batch of TV-magic pre-brewed-and-racked
>>>> beer. May 14 may be too close to finals for most students. May 28 would
>>>> probably be good for in-town students but would be bad for some of the SCA
>>>> folks who are going to a big event that weekend, so we'd have to lean more
>>>> on Makerspace folks if that was the chosen weekend.
>>>>
>>>> May 21 might also be a good option for folks who aren't me - it'd be
>>>> after the end of finals and there doesn't look to be a big SCA thing that
>>>> weekend, but I'll be in Chicago for two back to back conferences. So if
>>>> someone else wants to run one on the 21st I'll happily cheer you on
>>>> remotely!
>>>>
>>>> June or July may have more openings in general too? For me June is out,
>>>> but for a lot of folks it's past finals and pre school work.
>>>>
>>>> (For reference, the Women in Chemistry group's also interested in
>>>> collaborating on a brewing type of event over the summer - they didn't want
>>>> to try to fit anything else into the school year themselves, and they would
>>>> be interested in somewhere between late May and early August.)
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Andy Gibbs <andygibbs at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm also interested in helping with this.  I have two cappers that I
>>>>> can bring if we're bottling anything, among other miscellaneous brewing
>>>>> supplies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 11:42 PM, Gergana Slavova <
>>>>> gergana.s.slavova at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can definitely help out with this.  Dena, pick a day (or a couple
>>>>>> of dates) that are convenient for you and we'll narrow it down to just 1
>>>>>> that's good for everyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~Gergana
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Emily Knox <emilyknox at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Dena,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you so much for all your work last week! We can make a quick
>>>>>>> list for anyone that's interested in helping out. (Keymembers, let me know
>>>>>>> and we'll just make a group from the Makerspace email.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What dates/times work for you?  It doesn't need to be anytime soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Emily
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:50 PM, Dena Strong <dena.strong at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all! I'm not 100% sure whether having both a mailing list and
>>>>>>>> individual folks on an email thread will keep the individual folks once
>>>>>>>> replies happen, but I thought it would be worth a try? (If anyone SCA-side
>>>>>>>> knows Terra's email address, she'd probably be a good person to talk with
>>>>>>>> too.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Part 1:
>>>>>>>> Emily and I had a really nice chat-slash-debriefing over tea
>>>>>>>> tonight after work and she said that the Makerspace crew is also excited by
>>>>>>>> how many folks are interested in brewing and that the Makerspace can
>>>>>>>> contribute more hands and more equipment (ranging from brew-type to things
>>>>>>>> like the Square card reader for credit card taking) to future joint
>>>>>>>> endeavors. She suggested starting a joint email thread to discuss the
>>>>>>>> possibility of more like this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since it seems like there's definitely untapped interest out there,
>>>>>>>> what do folks in both groups think about the possibility of some future
>>>>>>>> brew workshops?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If so, do any particular dates look appealing to folks?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Part 2, the recap and review:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What went well this time:
>>>>>>>> Using the St John basement and kitchen for brewing or cooking
>>>>>>>> workshops is *fantastic.* There was plenty of room to have the sanitizing
>>>>>>>> and bottling and capping stations out in the main room and reserving the
>>>>>>>> kitchen for things that need the six burners.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Logistically (water, heat, and seating-wise), it was a ton easier
>>>>>>>> to do a brew day in the church basement and kitchen than it had been when
>>>>>>>> Ro and I did it in the Makerspace itself. And the reservation fee was only
>>>>>>>> $50, which we could math in to the workshop fees.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bringing a portable projector and projecting the slides on the wall
>>>>>>>> worked well too - since it's in the basement, dimming a bank of lights was
>>>>>>>> enough to let the projector be visible on the wall.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It was also really helpful having Stephanie teaching coffee and
>>>>>>>> Rick teaching sake at the same time -- not everyone can be hands-on at the
>>>>>>>> same time when you're bottling and capping, so having them both taking part
>>>>>>>> of the group while other people were individually cycling through the
>>>>>>>> sterilize-rinse-bottle-cap-label dance helped keep more of the crowd
>>>>>>>> occupied.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pre-loading the stuff into the storage under the church stairwell
>>>>>>>> on Friday was really key to being able to set up and get going on time.
>>>>>>>> (Thanks again for the tour and the storage key, Liz!)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having people sign up in advance for the hands-on slots and pay
>>>>>>>> online in advance gave me both a built-in way to cap the attendance and a
>>>>>>>> guaranteed pool of cash to buy the ingredients from. We could control the
>>>>>>>> hands-on numbers that way (though in hindsight I shouldn't have added the
>>>>>>>> extra 5 gallons to let more people in; I should've just said 'sorry, next
>>>>>>>> time').
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What didn't go so well:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Friday's hauling-in took me about 4 hours, so next time let's put
>>>>>>>> out a call for more stuff-hauling crew during prep day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It takes a long time to bottle ten gallons of beer, even if there
>>>>>>>> are a ton of people interested in doing it; next time, I'd say we should
>>>>>>>> cap a hands-on beer segment at the number of people who can get 6-packs out
>>>>>>>> of one five gallon batch (I think about 8?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Math fail: I wasn't aiming for anything resembling a profit, I was
>>>>>>>> trying to make the workshop cost match the materials cost. But I'd
>>>>>>>> miscalculated how expensive the honey would be in bulk from Amazon, so I
>>>>>>>> didn't break even. I now know the cost of honey better; I'm chalking that
>>>>>>>> up to learning curve.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, Emily says it's OK to calculate a profit in for future
>>>>>>>> workshop cost math, and we could split a profit between the groups.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Emily's recommendation of one teacher per ten students sounds like
>>>>>>>> a good ratio to me. We had about one per twelve to fifteen this time, I
>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (I'm not entirely sure if everyone signed in on the sign-in sheets,
>>>>>>>> which I'm still trying to find - if anyone sees a small black messenger bag
>>>>>>>> at St John with a couple brewing books and a bunch of handouts in it, that
>>>>>>>> would be it.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Planning ahead for extra and/or backup teachers in case someone
>>>>>>>> gets called away on the day-of is sounding like a good idea too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think that's the highlights?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Dena
>>>>>>>>
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