[Newspoetry] Realnewspoetry

Tue Sep 28 20:20:03 CDT 1999

ah, MP3 FM CD it all makes sense to me now! (ha!).  I've heard some MP3s
of voice and thought they sounded kinda distorted, but that could be
either that those particular ones were just poorly recorded to begin with,
or that i was expecting CD quality (whatever the hell that is, but the
people marketing this stuff to me says that's what i should be expecting,
and you know, i always trust what they say...to be honest, it doesn't make
sense, this CD quality, i mean come on, how many songs sound like a flat
little shiny disc that glimmers bright rainbowy colors when light hits
it?), or maybe it was a streaming MP3 (i couldn't tell you if it was cuz i
downloaded it soooooo long ago) and that the compression rate for the
streaming distorted it.  oh my gawd, so many parameters, but which one is
causing the keyboard to malfunction?  game over, man, game over!

i'm getting psyched for this.  or is it just the flu, it's kinda hard to
tell the difference sometimes.

brian

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Joe Futrelle wrote:

> 1. I can help with recording songs and poems in the rock n roll
> basement.
> 
> 2. I beg to differ about MP3.  With a compression ratio of 12:1
> (resulting in a 128kbits/s (ISDN) data rate) it sounds close to FM
> radio quality, which is fine for music, voice, and acoustic material.
> For an example, you can hear MP3's of my songs at
> http://www.schneertz.com/roar/.  Now, 28.8kb/s is an order of
> magnitude slower than ISDN, so the songs won't stream over a 28.8
> modem.  You have to download them and play them off your hard disk.
> You can encode MP3's at higher compression ratios, but of course they
> don't sound as good.  This is what Shockwave does for streaming audio.
> With current compression algorithms, audio doesn't start sounding good
> until about 64kb/s per channel, and video doesn't start looking good
> until about 3mb/s.  Anything less degrades the quality.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 01:11:22AM -0500, bhagy at onthejob.net wrote:
> > Not sure if Premiere records in rm format, but if it doesn't then
> > Quicktime 4.0 Pro might, and if that doesn't, well, heck then we'll have
> > to resort to using RealProducer, eh?  Between these three programs, we
> > should be able to crank out some hellish videos, of course just in time
> > for that turkey holiday. 
> > 
> >  i'm researching how to do streaming video and
> > which formats work best in terms of resolutions, compression factors, and
> > ease of use. i should have some working answers withing the next couple
> > days. 
> > 
> >  I've been researching this MP3 format too, and it seems that the
> > only cool thing about it is that it's got the record industry up in arms
> > because they can't control it.  other than that, it seems like it sucks
> > for voice and acoustic material (too many nuances are lost in compression
> > so it sounds bad, but is great for the already distorted sounds of
> > summer, er, of rock and the such). I've come across a new format MPEG-AAC,
> > not yet as popular but better, i'll see what i can find out about it.
> > MP3 is supposed to be clearer than realaudio, but realaudio is better
> > currently for streaming.  I haven't come across any streaming MP3s, so
> > someone point me in the right direction.
> > 
> > i dunno, this green plant sure looks plastic to me. hmm.
> > 
> > brian
> > 
> >  On Mon, 27
> > Sep 1999, William Gillespie wrote:
> > 
> > > Heyheyhey,
> > > 
> > > I've started the process of adding realaudio files to individual poems!
> > > A complete list can be found in the Table by Poetic Form under
> > > Realaudio. I am taking the poems recorded onto minidisc in Studio 109,
> > > using Goldwave to rerecord them as .WAV files, then using Realproducer
> > > to turn them into .rm files... There is a noticeable loss in sound
> > > quality, though I hope to refine the process...
> > > 
> > > I like Realmedia files because they allow you to add lots of information
> > > about the author & title. They also are roughly 1/10th the size of the
> > > equivalent .WAV files. I would like to record things directly from
> > > minidisc to realproducer, but I don't think my machine can churn fast
> > > enough to hack it.
> > > 
> > > When you record Realaudio files the first thing the software does is beg
> > > you if it can submit the files to something called Veritas, I think.
> > > Does anybody know anything about this?
> > > 
> > > Any advice on how to refine this process, or how to better integrate the
> > > sound files into the site, is welcome.
> > > 
> > > Willy G.
> > > 
> > > P.S. There also exist some recordings of newspoems read by the Unknown
> > > in a few live venues, including Scott reading "World can go fuck itself"
> > > off a 30-foot screen to an auditorium full of flabbergasted Coe College
> > > faculty & students.
> > > 
> > > P.P.S. I think we should try to record simple versions of the two
> > > folksongs as well... And the rap should definitely go up there.
> > > 
> > > P.P.P.S. I wanna read a poem at Betsyworld. Thanks Babs & Paul!
> > > 
> > > P.P.P.P.S. I think it will be Kord's videorecorder, Brian's computer,
> > > and Joe's server... Shout.net can't do streaming realmedia...
> > > 
> > > P.P.P.P.P.S. I'll write a invitation/announcement in the form of a
> > > Newspoem. To print out and post locally as well as to alert the WWW that
> > > we have a kind of scene, our own little world right here, just like
> > > fray.com.
> > > 
> > > P.P.P.P.P.P.S. Input is welcome...
> > > 
> > > P.P.P.P.P.P.P.S. Brian - does your Premiere software encode things as
> > > Realmedia files..?
> > > 
> > > 
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