You are disgusting. You and the other human wrecking balls who clog my inbox day in and day out seriously make me so frustrated I find myself deleting two thirds of the things I've written in this email for the sake of decorum and not bringing futher hate to the wider community.<br>
<br>However, this is exactly the kind of behavior which so many of us find insulting and alienating.<br><br>Count me out as well, you need a smaller soapbox.<br><br>Mark and Stuart, you guys are great but the hands-off approach is going nowhere. I'd be glad to tune back in when this listserv isn't seething with awful bullshit.<br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:48 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ewj@pigsqq.org" target="_blank">ewj@pigsqq.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Sarah,<br>
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It really seems that you do not have the cajones for this work.<div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 11/16/12 3:47, Sarah Lazare wrote:
</div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">I'm
sad to say that I'd like to be removed from this list, following in the
footsteps of several young, female organizers I know. </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">I
am concerned that this list is not enacting the policies and practices
I want to bring into the world. </span>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">To
protect and build horizontal organizing, it is crucial to set
guidelines and practices to ensure that our spaces of deliberation are
safe for all to participate in. The absence of this will mean that
people who don't want to wake up with bigoted, potentially triggering
emails in their inboxes will simply be excluded from the conversation
by opting out. This erodes democracy, as well as the creativity and
brilliance that comes when people collectively work and think together.</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Of
course we can't and don't want to control what people say, and we will
fuck up - I certainly have. However, we have to at least be trying to
push back against bigotry - to identify and act on opportunities for
political education and collective growth. We are being internally
inconsistent if we are not trying. On this listserv, the bigoted voices
are allowed to dominate unchecked. In fact, it is a hostile environment
for expressing discomfort about oppressive dynamics - those who speak
up are put in the same box as those who offended.</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">It is a relief to me that
Jesse and others were not aware of 9-11 Truth's fascist ties. I will
assume best intentions on that front. However, we are all responsible
for the organizations we endorse and work with: it is our
responsibility to look into an organization's politics before joining.
So it is completely justified that Scott would react with outrage upon
seeing a 9-11 Truth email. I would hope folks agree that outrage is an
appropriate response to suggestions of cooperating with fascist front
groups. 9-11 Truth has documented fascist ties, and organizations
throughout the U.S. have chosen to cut off any association with them on
these grounds. We're not the only ones having this conversation. </font></div>
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<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">The bigger issue is the
pattern of bigoted statements and attacks that persist on this
listserv. </font>Expressing anger at bigotry is healthy, natural, and
an important part of building accountable community: it must not be
equated with bigotry itself. Instances of sexism, anti-semitism,
racism, etc. do real damage: they are a big deal. Framing this in terms
of why-can't-we-all-just-get-along blames those speaking out against
bigotry for being "divisive" and fails to take responsibility for the
political content of what's going on. As organizers we are challenged
to think critically and politically. </div>
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<div>Waking up with a bigoted email in my inbox can ruin my whole
day. Seeing that email go unchallenged adds to my sadness. It feels bad
not to respond to emails that attack friends, comrades, strangers, or
myself in an oppressive manner. It also feels bad to respond on this
listserv, because it is not a supportive environment for doing so. My
only choice is to leave this listserv.</div>
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<div>It sounds like the conversation with Francisco and others was
really great and inspiring, and it seems that a rebirth of Occupy is in
the works. I'm sending wishes for community-building, growth, and
success as we take on the big monsters of capitalism and injustice that
we're all up against. Although this online forum is not a productive
space for me to be a part of, I hold out hope that when we see each
other in person, we are able to find footing rooted in solidarity,
respect, and justice.</div>
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<div>With Hope,</div>
<div>Sarah Lazare</div>
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