<div dir="ltr"><div>This has to do with Occupy because it involves systemic inequality.<br><br></div>If the two individuals' races were reversed Zimmerman would not be where he is today... <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/</a><br>
<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Chris Goodrow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:c_goodrow@hotmail.com" target="_blank">c_goodrow@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Wayne, </div><div><br></div><div>Do we know beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman didn't approach Trayvon with his gun out and Trayvon got the best of him? Seems Martin was found guilty of attempted murder but was unable to plea self defense as he's dead and the only witness that knows what happened is the one that shot him. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I don't know that this has anything to do with Occupy other than it is a large list of people that are interested in justice. It's not as if people are using this event to further the Occupy movement. </div>
<div><br></div><div>While I can't disagree with the verdict on a legal stance, I can still feel outraged at the lack of justice in this case from day one. The injustice that Zimmerman's word was just taken at face value that evening without a thorough investigation and then promptly let go without charges is very troubling. To think Trayvon would have been afforded the same luxuries had Zimmerman approached him with a gun and Martin ended killing him would suggest we live in a utopian justice system. </div>
<div><br>Chris<div><br></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Jul 14, 2013, at 12:56 PM, "Rachel Storm" <<a href="mailto:rachelstrm@gmail.com" target="_blank">rachelstrm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>
</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">Wayne. if you continue to fail to see any connections between racism and any other social movements, that is the result of your own lack of consciousness. I'll continue to be confused as to why you remain on these lists though your only contribution seems to consistently be to troll and derail any efforts to organize.</p>
<p dir="ltr">My understanding is that you don't live here locally and that you've been living out of the country for years. In other words, in all of my experience you have been unable to actually attend any organizing that would even happen in this town. Why you remain on this list though your behavior has been anything but productive, cooperative, or any of the values that I would think would be most important to the health of the list is beyond my comprehension.</p>
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The Martin/Zimmerman incident is not like the <br>
Champaign Police shootings of young black men.<br>
<br>
Zimmerman may be an asshole or not. I am not sure.<br>
Most but not all cops and wannabee cops are <br>
indeed quasi-assholes. Not all.<br>
<br>
But clearly Zimmerman was attacked, and on that basis he <br>
has been set free, because of the self-defense argument.<br>
The cause of the dispute betwen Martin and Zimmerman<br>
becomes irrelevant when Zimmerman is attacked.<br>
<br>
It's not like Zimmerman just pulled out his gun and <br>
Oba-nam Style executed him because he was wearing a hoodie.<br>
The law permits people to have encounters and disagreement.<br>
When it erupts into physical violence particularly life-threatening<br>
violence, then a line is crossed. The situation was<br>
examined very clearly.<br>
<br>
Justice my ass.<br>
It's not justice that they are crying for. <br>
It's blood.<br>
They want an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth<br>
They want blood for bloodshed.<br>
<br>
Well, actually what they want is Money.<br>
<br>
But since there isn't any money available,<br>
they'll settle for a few pints of blood,<br>
and several ounces of testicular flesh if that<br>
becomes available.<br>
<br>
It is really a disgusting distraction for a noble movement<br>
like Occupy! to get down and grub for cooties<br>
with the blood-lust crowd.<br>
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On 07/14/13 22:02, Karen Aram wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Rachel<br>
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After today's AWARE meeting at 5:00, I will be attending the protest,
bringing a neighbor as well. <br>
Trayvon Marvin represents the many young black men from Emmet Till,
Jimmie Lee Jackson, Robert Hall etc., etc. murdered because of their
race, with the perpetrators so obviously being acquitted by unjust laws
and or decisions. <br>
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Karen Aram<br>
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<hr>From: <a href="mailto:rachelstrm@gmail.com" target="_blank">rachelstrm@gmail.com</a><br>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 03:51:39 -0500<br>
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<div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hey
folks---If anyone has heard of another demo being planned, I'm happy to
send notices out, cancel this one, and redirect people there. I've
contacted a number of African-American led organizations in town and
can't seem to tell if something is already in the works. Either way,
I'm happy to help try and get the word out and then redirect if need be.</div>
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<div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Okay,
here's what I got to start. <a style="font-family:arial" href="https://www.facebook.com/events/206857249471575/?context=create" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/events/206857249471575/?context=create</a></div>
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<div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Please
forward widely. </div>
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<div><b><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">No Justice, No Peace x Protest the
Verdict</font><br>
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<div><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Sunday, July 14th, 2013 |
6pm-8pm</b></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Douglass Park | 512 E. Grove
St. Champaign</b></font></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);line-height:16px;font-family:"lucida grande",tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">"George
Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who fatally shot Trayvon
Martin, an unarmed black teenager, igniting a national debate on racial
profiling and civil rights, was found not guilty late Saturday night of
second-degree murder." </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);line-height:16px;font-family:"lucida grande",tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">We
will stand together in Champaign-Urbana to demand accountability, to
stand against racial injustice, and to protest the verdict that proved t</span>he
injustice of the system. <span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);line-height:16px;font-family:"lucida grande",tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">We
stand with Trayvon’s family and we know that we are called to act---to
fight for civil rights and for the removal of S</span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);line-height:16px;font-family:"lucida grande",tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;display:inline!important">tand
Your Ground laws in every state, and we will not rest until racial
profiling in all its forms is outlawed.</span><span style="display:inline!important"> </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);line-height:16px;font-family:"lucida grande",tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;display:inline!important">Today
we mourn, but tomorrow we organize. #blacklivesmatter<br>
<br>
Bring your friends, your family, your children, your neighbors. We
stand together as a community--all of us. Art, protest signs, candles,
and messages of outrage/hope/love/<span style="display:inline-block"></span>solidarity
are encouraged. </span></div>
<div><font color="#333333" face="lucida grande, tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif"><span style="line-height:15.98px"><b>Share on Facebook: </b></span></font><a href="https://www.facebook.com/events/206857249471575/?context=create" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/events/206857249471575/?context=create</a></div>
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<div>On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Rachel
Storm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rachelstrm@gmail.com" target="_blank">rachelstrm@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
think we need an emergency demonstration tomorrow in response to the
Zimmerman verdict to show that Urbana community members/activists/folks
in solidarity do not stand for this outrageous demonstration of
injustice.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Can
we plan to meet somewhere very public tomorrow (Sunday) at 6pm-ish?</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">WHERE?</div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Rachel</div>
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