[Peace-discuss] Hubris

C. G. Estabrook galliher at uiuc.edu
Wed Jul 4 10:51:59 CDT 2007


It's pretty silly to think that by labeling an account a "conspiracy
theory" you've shown that it's not true.  There are of course
conspiracies.  Whether it's helpful to call the close political and
military cooperation between the US and Israel (and it's clear who's the
senior partner) a conspiracy depends on just how you want to use the
term.  It would be better to learn the facts about the actions of both
parties -- and tell others about them -- against the propaganda of both.

illyes at uiuc.edu wrote:
> That's right, Karen. I do not believe that Israel is our proxy, nor 
> do I believe that we are theirs. As I'm sure you know from prior 
> email, I think conspiracy theories are nonsense, and I view both of 
> these positions as conspiracy theories. I respect both countries way 
> too much for that. The Israeli and American progressives are not in 
> the majority yet, but they are large groups. They will presently be 
> in the majority. This is guaranteed by the hubris that we see in the 
> leadership of both countries. Unfortunately, it takes serious evil to
>  produce the sort of organization it takes to defeat it.
> 


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