[Peace-discuss] Provoking war with Iran?

n.dahlheim at mchsi.com n.dahlheim at mchsi.com
Wed Jul 18 16:44:01 CDT 2007


While I don't like some of Buchannan's Goldwater tendencies---ie) xenophobia and reactionary cultural 
conservatism that is tinged with some racism, his assessment of U.S. foreign policy couched in his 
scholarly knowledge of American history is usually quite good.  If Buchannan is right, the disaster in the 
Middle East is about to spiral out of control.  Let's hope somebody stops Cheney and whoever thinks 
similarly with regards to U.S. policy towards Iran.

             Nick


----------------------  Original Message:  ---------------------
From:    "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
To:      Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Provoking war with Iran?
Date:    Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:11:01 +0000

> [There's a lot wrong with this -- the US invasion of Vietnam began in 
> 1962, not 1964, and we know from Seymour Hersh's reporting that the US 
> is already conducting military operations inside Iran -- but when 
> Democratic presidential candidates are agreeing that “We must not rule 
> out using military force” against Iran (Obama), it's important to not e 
> a few protests.  --CGE]
> 
> 	Tonkin Gulf II and the Guns of August?
> 	By Patrick J. Buchanan
> 
> 07/17/07 WorldNet Daily -- Is the United States provoking war with Iran, 
> to begin while the Congress is conveniently on its August recess?
> 
> One recalls that it was in August 1964, after the Republicans nominated 
> Barry Goldwater, that the Tonkin Gulf incident occurred.
> 
> Twice it was said, on Aug. 2 and Aug. 4, North Vietnamese patrol boats 
> had attacked the U.S. destroyers Maddox and Turner Joy in international 
> waters. The U.S. Senate responded by voting 88 to 2 to authorize 
> President Johnson to assist any Southeast Asian nation whose government 
> was threatened by communist aggression.
> 
> The bombing of the North began, followed by the arrival of U.S. Marines. 
> America's war was on.
> 
> As Congress prepares for its August recess, the probability of U.S. air 
> strikes on Iran rises with each week. A third carrier, the USS 
> Enterprise, and its battle group is joining the Nimitz and Stennis in 
> the largest concentration of U.S. naval power ever off the coast of Iran.
> 
> And Tonkin Gulf II may have already occurred.
> 
> In Baghdad, on July 1, Gen. Kevin J. Bergner charged that Iranians 
> planned the January raid in Karbala, using commandos in American-style 
> uniforms, that resulted in the death of five U.S. soldiers.
> 
> As the New York Times reports, this "marks the first time that the 
> United States has charged that Iranian officials have helped plan 
> operations against American troops in Iraq and have had advance 
> knowledge of specific attacks that have led to the death of American 
> soldiers."
> 
> The Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards is using Hezbollah to 
> train Shiites to attack our soldiers and providing them with enhanced 
> IEDs that have killed scores of U.S. troops, Bergner charged. He says we 
> have captured a veteran Hezbollah agent and documents pointing to direct 
> Iranian complicity in the Karbala raid.
> 
> Iran has denounced the charge as "ridiculous." But the Senate has voted 
> 97-0 to censure Iran for complicity in killing the Americans.
> 
> If what Bergner alleges is true, President Bush has not only the right 
> but appears to have the blessing of Congress to attack Iran. And he now 
> has the naval and air forces at hand. What is stopping him?
> 
> For it is surely not Congress, which buried a resolution last spring 
> declaring that Bush must come to Congress before taking us into a new 
> war in the Middle East. Congress appears to be signaling Bush: "If you 
> want to hit Iran, you have the green light. No need to consult us."
> 
> Is this yet another abdication by Congress of its moral and 
> constitutional duty to decide when and whether America goes to war?
> 
> And something smells awfully fishy here.
> 
> Iran has no interest in a war with the United States, which it seems to 
> be toying with. Iran supports the pro-American Shia regime in Baghdad. 
> And the al-Qaida umbrella group in Iraq, which is our mortal enemy, has 
> just warned Iran it faces terror attacks if it does not stop supporting 
> Shiites in Iraq.
> 
> Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, who leads the al-Qaida group known as the Islamic 
> State in Iraq, says his fighters have been preparing for four years for 
> war on Iran:
> 
> "We are giving the Persians, and especially the rulers of Iran, a 
> two-month period to end all kinds of support for the Iraqi Shiite 
> government and to stop direct and indirect intervention – otherwise a 
> severe war is waiting for you," al-Baghdadi said in a 50-minute videotape.
> 
> Al-Baghdadi also warned Arab Sunnis in the region who do business with 
> Shiites in Iran that they were inviting assassination.
> 
> Query: If Iran's ally, the Maliki government, is our ally, and if Iran's 
> enemy, al-Qaida in Iraq, is our enemy, why would Iran use the Quds Force 
> to attack Americans and risk U.S. retaliation?
> 
> Killing Americans in Iraq is not going to defeat the United States. But 
> it could trigger heavy U.S. retaliation, not only on the Quds Force, but 
> on Iran's nuclear facilities – and a war with the United States. Yet 
> Iran's diplomatic behavior suggests it wishes to avoid such a war.
> 
> Another explanation comes to mind. Iran is not initiating, but is 
> responding to U.S.-inspired attacks inside Iran, in the Kurdish north, 
> the Arab southwest and the Baluchi southeast of its country. Was Karbala 
> an attempted kidnapping to exchange U.S. soldiers for the five Iranian 
> "diplomats" we are holding?
> 
> Has Bush secretly authorized covert attacks inside Iran? Are U.S. and 
> Israeli agents in Kurdistan behind the attacks across the border to 
> provoke Iran? On July 11, Iranian troops clashed with Kurd rebels inside 
> Iran, and the Iranians fired artillery back into Iraq.
> 
> Why is Congress going on vacation? Why are a Democratic-controlled House 
> and Senate not asking these questions in public hearings? Why is 
> Congress letting Bush and Vice President Cheney decide whether we launch 
> a third war in the Middle East?
> 
> Or is Congress in on it?
> 
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