[Peace-discuss] Israeli massacre in Gaza [and J Street PAC's call to end the violence and the blockade]

Morton K. Brussel brussel at illinois.edu
Mon Dec 29 00:13:04 CST 2008


I'm moved  to comment on this, although I'm sure that Stuart is quite  
capable of doing defending himself.

1) Stuart did not say "that the violence may be "out of control" ";  
he said that it may get out of control. There's a difference, which  
Carl in his not unusual manner distorts. It is another issue whether  
it will get our of control. I have to agree with Carl that it could  
be stopped at any time if there was a will to do so by the U.S.  
administration---not to speak of the Israelis. But I take the sense  
of the statement to imply that the situation can even become worse if  
there is no outside intervention.

2) What Stuart is saying, if I interpret him right, is that one ought  
not get hung up, under the present circumstances,  on the issue of  
who started firing first, as our mass media is prone  to do, since  
NOW it's more important that the murderous bombing be stopped  
immediately. (In any case, as Cindy Sheehan remarks, a country being  
strangled and occupied,  has good reasons to resist.) This is not to  
imply that the two sides are equally at fault and should be equally  
condemned. Clearly, there is no just equivalence between the Israeli  
and Palestinian actions.

Finally, I found J Street's message mealy mouthed, too solicitous of  
Zionist prejudices. They turned me off.


On Dec 28, 2008, at 10:15 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:

> Stuart Levy wrote:
>> ... http://action.jstreet.org/t/3251/petition.jsp? 
>> petition_KEY=508&tag=gazaemail-txt
>> Here's their call:
>>> ... And there is nothing to be gained from debating which  
>>> injustice is
>>> greater or came first.   What's needed now is immediate action to  
>>> stop the
>>> violence before it spirals out of control...
>
> That's surely wrong.  It's obvious to the world "which injustice is  
> greater or came first."  The attempt to equalize the crimes is  
> disingenuous at best.
>
> So is the suggestion that the violence may be "out of control": it  
> is entirely within the control of the US and Israel.
>
> And so is the suggestion in the next lines that the US is "wait 
> [ing] ... before intervening ... as they did in the Israel-Lebanon  
> crisis of 2006."  In both cases the US was actively "intervening"  
> and very much in control of the continuous Israeli crimes.
>
> J Street here tips its propaganda hand.  --CGE
>
>
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