[Peace-discuss] When You Comin' Back, Red Ryder?

[John W.]

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 5:27 PM, LAURIE SOLOMON <LAURIE at advancenet.net>wrote:

An excellent critical assessment the statements and an interesting  set of
> observations followed by a reasonable conclusion.


Rather difficult to parse Karen's language is, but agree I do quite.




>   -----Original Message-----
> From: peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net
> [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Karen
> Medina
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:46 PM
> To: Peace-discuss List
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] When You Comin' Back, Red Ryder?
>
> I am not sure what a lasting effect of a movement is.
>
> With the civil rights movement some things have visibly disappeared in
> one form but re-appeared in other forms. Disappeared have the
> segregation laws of separate but equal -- gone are the separate public
> restrooms, separate train cars and public transportation, and the
> white and colored water fountains. Appeared have the huge prisons and
> long lines of death row inmates. Appeared has the busing of the poor
> kids, while the rich kids get to walk to school and stay for scouting
> or sports or chess club. Moved has some of the hatred shown to black
> brothers and sisters, moved it has to the Latin Americans and the
> Middle Eastern brothers and sisters.
>
> With the anti-war movement, unfortunately:
> * Disappeared has the hand-to-hand combat where one person had to
> watch another person die. Appeared have the tanks, airplanes, and
> remote controlled weapons.
> * Disappeared has the front line -- that despised place no one wanted
> to be sent to. Appeared has the civilian casualties.
> * Appeared did the Geneva Conventions. Gone are the POW camps.
> Appeared has the military commissions act and the secret prisons.
> * Gone is the military of the past where you did not women anywhere
> near, present is the private military.
>
> I think, but could be wrong, that world's powerful choose the message
> to get from the movements. And rather than getting the real message
> and expanding it, the powerful reduce the message to the very smallest
> interpretation possible and then look for ways to work around it.
>
> I think my point is that no movement is ever finished with its job.
>
> -karen medina
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://lists.chambana.net/mailman/archive/peace-discuss/attachments/20090823/9f35fe43/attachment.htm