[Peace-discuss] [Announce] [Peace] WCIA has posted a petition re resignation of Mayor Schweighart

C. G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Sat Apr 17 21:50:45 CDT 2010


I assume the squiggle at the end implies mordant sarcasm, right, John?

Given the mayor's record - neatly summarized by Neal Parthun on this list - 
going after him for having Wrong Thoughts about the Blessed Obama is at best 
like indicting Al Capone for tax evasion.  --CGE


On 4/17/10 8:24 PM, John W. wrote:
> It's wonderful to see some "new" voices on the peace-discuss list, and making
> so much sense at that.  :-) John
>
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Durango Mendoza <durangom at hotmail.com
> <mailto:durangom at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Adding sugar and cream to the tea party birther line with a couple of verbal
> pastries on the side is to cloud the issue at hand. We have not just seen a
> slip of the tongue after quaffing from the tea party cup. We have glimpsed
> the underlying and fundamental base that guides the mayor’s thoughts, actions
> and non-actions.  They reveal, if not fully, why he could let the killing of
> a black teen not have logical consequences.
>
> Adding side issues that national wrongs should be addressed instead, and
> pointing out one’s right to lie bears a striking resemblance to school yard
> retorts, “Oh, yeah, what he did is nothing compared to what big so-and-so
> did, so just shut up already! Why don’t you make HIM stop if it bothers you
> so much?” Such dismissive and pot-stirring comparisons are too easily made
> and are fundamentally unhelpful. That larger issues need work does not mean
> local ones do not need action. This issue adds traction to the injustice
> ones.
>
> I’m sure there were some major national and world issues that needed work at
> the same time that a tired Rosa Parks decided to sit where she was rather
> than move. “Why, I bet some of those white passengers were more tired than
> she was. I mean, like, like...what makes her better than them? Don’t they
> have rights too? I bet she wasn't really tired. She just wanted to make local
> trouble.” And she did have a plan: start local and personal and larger change
> could follow. In spite of dismissers, apologists, assassins, and "moles"
> planted among the change agents, positive change happened. And more is needed
> as our work is not yet complete. It requires the helpful support of the
> many.
>
> Change does start one person at a time. Sadly, so does hate.
>
> DM
>
>> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:13:25 -0500 From: galliher at illinois.edu
>> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu> To: martiwilki at gmail.com
>> <mailto:martiwilki at gmail.com> CC: peace at lists.chambana.net
>> <mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>;
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>;
> announce at lists.communitycourtwatch.org
> <mailto:announce at lists.communitycourtwatch.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] WCIA has posted a petition
> re resignation of Mayor Schweighart
>
>>
>> And of course the chief magistrate whose legitimacy the mayor
> questions
>> has ordered murder on a large scale - including assassination and
> the
>> summary execution of American citizens; he's not merely failed to fulfill
>> his responsibilities in regard to corrupt and murderous
> police.
>>
>>
>> C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>>> Talk about straining at a gnat & swallowing a camel...
>>>
>>> There should be a serious campaign for the removal of the mayor of
>>> Champaign - & the other members of the Champaign City Council -
> for
>>> nonfeasance in not dismissing police officers responsible for the killing
>>> of an unarmed 15-year-old. But instead we have a frivolous campaign for
>>> his removal because he points out that the
> Constitution
>>> requires the president to be a natural-born citizen - as it
> does (art.
>>> 2, sect. 1) - and that questions have been raised whether Obama qualifies
>>> - as they have.
>>>
>>> It's hardly wrong to ask the question, as Obama supporters seem to
>>> assert. What's curious is the dog (or the mule) in the night - how
>>> hesitant the Democrats have been in answering the question.
> You'd think
>>> that they would go out of their way to refute any suggestion
> that Obama
>>> is not constitutionally entitled to be president. --CGE
>>>
>>>
>>> Marti Wilkinson wrote:
>>>> I'm of the opinion that removing the mayor from office is best
> done
>>>> with the vote of the people. Setting aside his stupid remarks
> at the
>>>> 'Tea Party' - I would like to see a democratic process take place where
>>>> *his record* **becomes the focus. Since he has taken
> office he
>>>> has supported the actions of the police force, has voted against
>>>> broadband,and is generally rude and boorish towards the
> citizens who
>>>> question the actions of the city council during public
> commentary. I
>>>> could go on of course, but demanding that he resign at this point will
>>>> just bring out every 'birther' out of the woodwork. Is that really in
>>>> the best interest of the citizenry.
>>>>
>>>> Besides, Jerry is a figurehead at best. The person who really runs the
>>>> show in Champaign is Steve Carter...perhaps we can circulate a petition
>>>> asking him to resign over his failure to fire Chief
> Finney
>>>> and for allowing Officer Norbits to work while supposedly on
>>>> 'administrative leave'.
>>>>
>>>> Marti
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Jenifer Cartwright
>>>> <jencart13 at yahoo.com <mailto:jencart13 at yahoo.com>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just watched the Ch 3 News. The lead story was about
> Schweighart
>>>>> and titled, "Caught On Tape." The story ended w/ an online
> petition
>>>>> re the Mayor's resignation. Here's the link to the story
>>>>> http://illinoishomepage.net/fulltext/?nxd_id=143655&watch=1
> <http://illinoishomepage.net/fulltext/?nxd_id=143655&watch=1> and the
>>>>> petition http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/schweighartresign/
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://illinoishomepage.net/fulltext/?nxd_id=143655&watch=1
> <http://illinoishomepage.net/fulltext/?nxd_id=143655&watch=1>>They
>>>>> played the YouTube video a couple of times, and took statements
>>>>> afterwards in which he reaffirmed his opinion that Obama isn't an
>>>>> American because he wasn't born in the US, tho' he conceded he's
>>>>> become a citizen since then. They interviewed the grad
> student John
>>>>> O'Connor, the guy who taped Schweighart. He said he went
> public w/
>>>>> the tape because "it's the right of all citizens to know that he
>>>>> believes this and to make judgments based on this. He is a
> private
>>>>> citizen, but the fact is, he is also the mayor... and if he believes
>>>>> a fringe, frankly loony conspiracy theory, that
> directly
>>>>> impacts his ability to do his job." The report said that the
> mayor
>>>>> said his office has received several phone calls, some asking for his
>>>>> resignation, but that that's "something that won't happen anytime
>>>>> soon." County Board member Alan Kurtz said that the mayor should
>>>>> resign as he represents the city... and "How do you run a city when
>>>>> you don't have the facts?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Jennifer Roscoe said that 3 cases re Obama's Citizenship had been
>>>>> filed w/ the IL Supreme Court and all had been dismissed.
>>>>>
>>>>> She also said that there is an online petition and that Channel 3
>>>>> wants to know what we think. Again, here's that link
>>>>> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/schweighartresign/ --Jenifer
>
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