[Peace-discuss] Fw: UPDATE: Blue Dogs and Healthcare Reform

Laurie Solomon ls1000 at live.com
Tue Mar 23 15:39:21 CDT 2010


Focusing on the wars allows us to ignore health care and other domestic 
policies just as focusing on domestic and foreign policies allows us to 
ignore racism , sexism, and religious bigotry.  Focusing on anything allows 
us to ignore other things if we so choose to do so and elect to exercise 
that option.  However, no one is forcing anyone to forgo the option of not 
ignoring other issues if they seriously want to explore  and undertake them. 
It certainly is a matter of priorities and what weightings pone wants to 
give the various issues at hand.  Again you seem to have the arrogance to 
insist that everyone recognize and abide by your priorities and your 
selections of focal points while denying others the same right to be 
arrogant and insist on others - including you - recognizing and abiding by 
their priorities and selections of focal points.

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From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 9:54 PM
To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: UPDATE: Blue Dogs and Healthcare Reform

> The administration's "healthcare reform" - it hardly deserves the name - 
> allows us to ignore the fact that they're killing people far away?
>
>
> Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
>> Huh??? I think yr answer was meant for a different email. This one was 
>> about
>> Healthcare Reform! --Jenifer
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 3/22/10, Ricky Baldwin /<baldwinricky at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] 
>> Fw:
>> UPDATE: Blue Dogs and Healthcare Reform To: "Jenifer Cartwright"
>> <jencart13 at yahoo.com>, "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu> Cc:
>> "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Date: Monday, March 
>> 22,
>> 2010, 9:44 PM
>>
>> Well, of course, Johnson's against the war now that there's a Dem in the
>> White House, like Gill opposed it when the POP held the Presidential 
>> stool.
>> I wouldn't make TOO much of the distinction.
>>
>> Pulling out troops is also not the only way to save lives (although we 
>> should
>> support it, too).
>>
>> Ricky
>>
>> "Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 3/22/10, C. G. Estabrook /<galliher at illinois.edu>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu> Subject: Re: 
>> [Peace-discuss]
>> Fw: UPDATE: Blue Dogs and Healthcare Reform To: "Jenifer Cartwright"
>> <jencart13 at yahoo.com> Cc: "Peace-discuss" 
>> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 9:38 PM
>>
>> In the 15th Illinois Congressional district, the Republican incumbent is 
>> to
>> the Left of his Democratic challenger in regard to killing people in the
>> Middle East.
>>
>> Tim Johnson votes against money for Obama's wars, while David Gill favors 
>> an American "presence" (i.e., killing people) in Afghanistan, etc. --CGE
>>
>>
>> Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
>>> One way forward... --Jenifer
>>>
>>> --- On *Mon, 3/22/10, Stephanie Taylor, BoldProgressives.org
>> /<info at boldprogressives.org>/* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Progressive Change Campaign Committee
>> <http://boldprogressives.org/>
>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> PCCC's first endorsed candidates
>> <http://act.boldprogressives.org/go/556?akid=620.88597.asAf-g&t=1 
>> <http://act.boldprogressives.org/go/556?akid=620.88597.asAf-g&t=1>>
>>>
>>> Click here to support our first endorsed House candidates of
>> 2010. <http://act.boldprogressives.org/go/556?akid=620.88597.asAf-g&t=2 
>> <http://act.boldprogressives.org/go/556?akid=620.88597.asAf-g&t=2>>
>>>
>>> Jenifer,
>>>
>>> Great news! In just a few hours, PCCC members chipped nearly
>> $30,000 to
>>> support our first 2 endorsed House candidates of 2010.
>>>
>>> Together, we can help these bold progressives defeat two Blue
>> Dogs (including
>>> Joe Lieberman's national co-chair) in the primaries.
>>>
>>> Click here to learn about the candidates -- and chip in $4 to
>> their campaigns. 
>> <http://act.boldprogressives.org/go/556?akid=620.88597.asAf-g&t=3 
>> <http://act.boldprogressives.org/go/556?akid=620.88597.asAf-g&t=3>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Our new goal is $40,000 raised before the March 31 FEC
>> fundraising deadline.
>>>
>>> Krystal Ball, one of these candidates, just sent us a
>> statement over email in
>>> reaction to last night's health care vote:
>>>
>>> "I believe in a public health insurance option -- and,
>> frankly, I believe
>>> that if all of our legislators were dedicated first and
>> foremost to the
>>> country's best interests, we would have passed a health care
>> bill with a
>>> public option in August. As a progressive member of Congress,
>> I will proudly
>>> co-sponsor and fight for Rep. Grayson's 'Medicare You Can Buy
>> Into' Act."
>>>
>>> We need to support bold progressive candidates like this --
>> please chip in $4
>>> here.
>> <http://act.boldprogressives.org/go/556?akid=620.88597.asAf-g&t=4 
>> <http://act.boldprogressives.org/go/556?akid=620.88597.asAf-g&t=4>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for being a bold progressive.
>>>
>>> -- Stephanie
>>>
>>> P.S. Our earlier email is below...
>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> PCCC's first endorsed candidates
>> <http://act.boldprogressives.org/go/556?akid=620.88597.asAf-g&t=5 
>> <http://act.boldprogressives.org/go/556?akid=620.88597.asAf-g&t=5>>
>>>
>>> Click here to support our first endorsed House candidates of
>> 2010. <http://act.boldprogressives.org/go/556?akid=620.88597.asAf-g&t=6 
>> <http://act.boldprogressives.org/go/556?akid=620.88597.asAf-g&t=6>>
>>>
>>> Jenifer,
>>>
>>> Many public option supporters sent us their thoughts about
>> the health care
>>> bill passed by the House last night. Some feel betrayed --
>> others call it "a
>>> start."
>>>
>>> One thing's for sure: A public option was not included by the
>> House despite
>>> thousands of us taking action and proving the votes existed
>> in the Senate to
>>> pass this popular proposal.
>>>
>>> *Why didn't House leaders include a public option?*
>> /Politico/ reports,
>>> "Inserting a public option into the House reconciliation bill
>> would blow up a
>>> possible deal with the Blue Dogs."
>>>
>>> We're going to keep fighting for a public option, but that's
>> not enough. We
>>> need to defeat Blue Dogs and elect bold progressive fighters
>> to Congress.
>>> ...
>>
>>
>>
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