[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Are you interested in working on AWARE's 4th of July float? We need all the helpers we can get.

"E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" ewj at pigs.ag
Tue Jun 21 20:36:46 CDT 2011


discovering
new frontiers
new dragons to slay
new countries to bomb
new deserts for democracy
new martyrs to assassinate
new governments to Overthrow
new dissidents to jail and torture
new babies to mangle and incinerate
new boys to bring back dead, maimed, worse
crisp new simoleons lettuce fund the war machine

hey hey Obamay how many frontiers did you rape today

why then the world's mine Oyster
which I with sword will Open

not another f'n penny
for new front tears
mr Odiacity

O


On 06/21/11 22:06, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> No insult intended, Paul, honest. You expressed yr tho'ts, I expressed 
> mine. And it seems we both stand by our original statements.
>
> --- On *Mon, 6/20/11, pnolan64 /<pnolan64 at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: pnolan64 <pnolan64 at yahoo.com>
>     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Are you interested in working
>     on AWARE's 4th of July float? We need all the helpers we can get.
>     To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>, "Stuart Levy"
>     <slevy at ncsa.illinois.edu>
>     Cc: "Stuart Levy" <slevy at ncsa.uiuc.edu>, "Ron Szoke"
>     <r-szoke at illinois.edu>, "Ed Mandel" <crazyhawk22 at hotmail.com>,
>     "Karen Medina" <kmedina at illinois.edu>,
>     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net, "Don McClure" <dmccjr at att.net>
>     Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 6:45 PM
>
>     Jenifer,
>
>     I didn't say "peace signs".  What I said was signs with
>     "messages", while leaving the nature of the message up to the
>     individual.
>
>     Before you insult and mock someone's idea, perhaps you should read
>     it first.
>
>     Paul
>     "To thine own self be true."
>     William Shakespeare
>     <style type="text/css"></style>
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
>     *To:* pnolan64 <pnolan64 at yahoo.com>; Stuart Levy
>     <slevy at ncsa.illinois.edu>
>     *Cc:* Paul Nolan <pnolan64 at yahoo.com>; Stuart Levy
>     <slevy at ncsa.uiuc.edu>; Ron Szoke <r-szoke at illinois.edu>; Ed Mandel
>     <crazyhawk22 at hotmail.com>; Karen Medina <kmedina at illinois.edu>;
>     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net; Don McClure <dmccjr at att.net>
>     *Sent:* Mon, June 20, 2011 6:01:52 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Are you interested in
>     working on AWARE's 4th of July float? We need all the helpers we
>     can get.
>
>     Not much punch,and no relationship to the theme just carrying
>     Peace signs.
>
>     E-z enuff to provide both punch and theme w/ a little imagination
>     and not much more work.
>
>     Repeating my original suggestion: "Discovering New Frontiers"
>     could mean e-communication's impact on Peace and Justice --
>     facebook's toppling Mubarak; whistleblowers (Manning; Drake) and
>     journalists (WikiLeaks).
>
>     If anybody wants to head this/anything up, go for it!
>
>
>     --- On *Mon, 6/20/11, Stuart Levy /<slevy at ncsa.illinois.edu>/* wrote:
>
>
>         From: Stuart Levy <slevy at ncsa.illinois.edu>
>         Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Are you interested in
>         working on AWARE's 4th of July float? We need all the helpers
>         we can get.
>         To: "pnolan64" <pnolan64 at yahoo.com>
>         Cc: "Paul Nolan" <pnolan64 at yahoo.com>, "Stuart Levy"
>         <slevy at ncsa.uiuc.edu>, "Ron Szoke" <r-szoke at illinois.edu>, "Ed
>         Mandel" <crazyhawk22 at hotmail.com>, "Karen Medina"
>         <kmedina at illinois.edu>, peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net, "Don
>         McClure" <dmccjr at att.net>
>         Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 11:28 AM
>
>         On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 07:26:47AM -0700, pnolan64 wrote:
>         > You know, you don't really need a float per se.  How about
>         just having a bunch
>         > of people carrying signs protesting the war?  I personally
>         think that would be
>         > far more impressive (and have more impact).  It gives the
>         impression that the
>         > messages are coming from the people not from an organization.
>         >
>         > Oh, and the signs should be hand lettered but be clearly
>         readable at a
>         > distance.  This would again show the messages are from the
>         people.
>         >
>         > Paul
>
>         My two cents: I agree with both Paul's points.  Signs, or
>         signs-and-a-banner,
>         could be a fine entry.
>
>         But please discount the above - I'll miss this year's parade,
>         will be away on the 4th.
>         And I won't have time to help with planning until next week,
>         at least.
>
>         >
>         > "To thine own self be true."
>         > William Shakespeare
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > ________________________________
>         > From: Karen Medina <kmedina67 at gmail.com>
>         > To: Peace List <peace at lists.chambana.net>
>         > Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 8:37:21 AM
>         > Subject: [Peace] Are you interested in working on AWARE's
>         4th of July float? We
>         > need all the helpers we can get.
>         >
>         > Peace,
>         >
>         > Are you interested in working on AWARE's 4th of July float?
>         We need
>         > all the helpers we can get.
>         >
>         > -- karen medina
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