[Peace-discuss] [sf-core] Ron Paul, Electoral Politics, and the Workers' Movement

[C. G. Estabrook]

Obama is killing people every day with his expanding wars in Asia and  
Africa, his drone strikes, his death squads and assassinations.  To  
say that one will countenance that, because it's possible that an  
opponent's views on climate change, if acted upon, might have a  
catastrophic effect, is mad. "Go ahead and kill people, Barack,  
because the only candidate opposing your crimes doesn't believe in  
global warming, so we'll give you a second term..."


On Jan 23, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Brussel Morton K. wrote:

> Most of us already know that Ron Paul is a reactionary on economic  
> policies, essentially isolationist in foreign policy (although I'm  
> not sure about how he would treat oil and resource extraction  
> corporations, e.g., how to protect them for our national interest),  
> and a "libertarian" on certain civil rights, (excepting women's  
> choice issues)—i.e., let anyone do mostly what they want,  
> discriminate, carry guns wherever, get rid of public education, any  
> social or health safety net,  ….  On the other hand, It might not be  
> a bad idea to advertise/promote his anti-war foreign policy  
> statements vis-a vis Obama and the other Repubs in the interest of  
> popular education, but how could anyone with a humane social concern  
> domestically ever vote for him? The havoc and misery his domestic  
> policies would entail is inestimable. As Carl's opponent, John  
> Reimann, in Dave Johnson's program noted, a dying off (call it  
> murder?) of large segments of our populations could be expected in  
> such an advent. Like in Russia after the USSR was dissolved. If you  
> look at the details, it is simply crazy.
>
>
> My impressions from that fascinating program.
>
> --mkb
>
>
> On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:50 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>
>>
>> And here's an account of what John was upset about: <http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/12/matt-stoller-why-ron-paul-challenges-liberals.html
>> >.
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2012, at 7:43 PM, C. G. ESTABROOK wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > On Saturday 21 January, David Johnson, Bob Paleczny, Bill Gorrell,
>> > and Tom Thomas hosted a debate - "Ron Paul, Electoral Politics, and
>> > the Workers' Movement" - between Carl Estabrook of News from  
>> Neptune
>> > and labor activist John Reimann on the Illinois World Labor Hour.
>> >
>> > Thanks to David who arranged it, and Bob, who made it available
>> > online. The first hour of the show is at <http://radio4all.net/index.php/program/57180
>> > > - the debate begins in the last third; the second hour,  
>> containing
>> > the majority of the debate, is at <http://radio4all.net/index.php/program/57182
>> > >.
>> >
>> >
>> > --CGE
>> >
>
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