[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] Dem. primary, US House

David Johnson davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net
Wed Mar 19 19:29:52 UTC 2014


David,

That is too funny !

But seriously, Carlinville ( Macoupin County ) is between Springfield and Edwardsville / East St. Louis area near where Anne Callis is from.
A few takes on that....
1) They know and hate Anne Callis and liked the sound of your last name compared to Gollin.
2) This happens to be a traditional coal mining area near where Mother Jones grave is in Mt. Olive and the location of many Union battles like the Verdun massacre.


An interesting phenomena for whatever reason.

David Johnson

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Green 
  To: Ricky Baldwin ; Peace Discuss 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] Dem. primary, US House


  Thanks Ricky. The race was largely positive and energizing--just wish I had been able to talk to more people, which is a different issue, but also structural.

  For some damned reason I got almost a quarter (over 1000) of my votes in Macoupin County (Carlinville), which can't have more than 7-8% of the district's population. I'll have to figure out what I did or didn't do right down there; like maybe never talking to anyone from there worked in my favor.



  On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:48 PM, Ricky Baldwin <rbaldwin at seiu73.org> wrote:

    Interesting points, both.

    Thanks to David for making it possible to learn about these two points, and for running.  Many of us don't think too highly of electoral politics, but that is largely a reflection of the horrendous and disgusting uses to which it has been put and its susceptibility to manipulation from the powerful.  David's campaign represented among other things a rebellion against both those evils and an example of the good uses to which electoral politics can be put, how it can be used to resist manipulation by the powerful, even if every effort is not successful - in the short run.  All of us continue to speak up and demonstrate and organize even though we are usually not successful in the short run.  But we do it because it is the only way we know to keep the possibility open that we may be more successful in the long run.  Electoral politics may be a sham, a fraud, and a ghost of what it is cracked up to be, but it is part of the reality we live in as surely as the system of selling our labor 
    power for money so we can buy the means to live.  And it's hard for one of us to run.  It can be exhausting emotionally and physically, but most if not all of what David had to say would have never made it into the race without his efforts.  And in the long run he has made it that much more possible to win something(s) that will matter profoundly to all of us.

    Ricky

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    From: OccupyCU [occupycu-bounces at lists.chambana.net] on behalf of C. G. Estabrook [carl at newsfromneptune.com]
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    Subject: Re: [OccupyCU] Dem. primary, US House

    Note too that David had 11% of the vote in C-U - but 14% in the district as a whole.

    That suggests that the issues on which he differed with the standard Democratic party positions presented by Callis and Gollin - notably military and economic policy - have at least as much appeal beyond 'liberal' C-U.

    I think we may see anti-war/anti-Wall St. candidates emerging in some surprising places in the coming year.

    --CGE

    On Mar 18, 2014, at 10:50 PM, C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com<mailto:carl at newsfromneptune.com>> wrote:


    Note that David Green won overwhelmingly in votes per dollar spent campaigning.

    U.S. 13TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT (D)
    100% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING

            Ann Callis      17,176  55%

            George Gollin  9,865  31%

            David Green    4,429  14%




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