[Peace-discuss] Data on degrees/jobs

[David Green]

Midge, that number was for the UK, although the job data is for the U.S., a
little confusing for sure, but I think the same increase would apply to the
U.S. There are currently about 2 million Bachelor's degrees awarded in the
U.S. per year.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 4:10 PM Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> Sent: Tue, Oct 13, 2020 2:04 pm
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Data on degrees/jobs
>
> Are there really currently only some 360,000 first degree-college
> graduates a year?  It would seem many more than that--I wonder what is the
> percentage of grads to peer-eligible non-graduates.  I would venture that
> the majority of college graduates are technically trained rather than
> "educated"--in history, philosophy, sciences, mathematics, languages, and
> literature--and think that a basic liberal arts curriculum for at least two
> years should constitute an undergraduate program prior to professional or
> technical training (which many graduates pursue in advanced graduate
> training anyway), which would better prepare the college graduate to
> consider his/her place in the universe and contribute to a more
> cooperative, equitable environment instead of climbing the class-based
> ladder of elitism.
>
> Midge
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Green via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> To: Brussel, Morton K <brussel at illinois.edu>
> Cc: Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.ne
> Sent: Mon, Oct 12, 2020 8:34 pm
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Data on degrees/jobs
>
> It would at least be desirable to have something that could be credibly
> called liberal or civic studies that would be freely available, if
> demanding and rigorous, to those so intellectually inclined, clearly
> delineated from vocational, technical, and professional studies, which
> should be in accord with the demands for such labor; although these
> approaches should not be seen as mutually exclusive for any individual,
> especially in the context of a normal lifetime.
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 8:55 PM Brussel, Morton K <brussel at illinois.edu>
> wrote:
>
> So, it seems best that students not aspire to enter the universities. Were
> things better, more progressive, without higher education?
> Yes, the problems of jobs/decent employment/ in the future, and perhaps
> even now is a major  conundrum. Clearly, new economic models will have to
> be invented, and realized. Hopefully much more egalitarian.
>
> On Oct 12, 2020, at 1:08 PM, David Green <davidgreen50 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As a data-based follow-up to the article about the "Rump Professional
> Class," one can find some interesting charts about the "overproduction" of
> college grads in this article:
>
> https://www.thebellows.org/on-the-real-reactionaries/
>
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