From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Sat Jul  2 17:00:48 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2022 12:00:48 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Fact: Treatments for Miscarriage and Ectopic
 Pregnancy Are Legal in Every State
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: Live Action News <info at liveaction.org>
> Subject: Fact: Treatments for Miscarriage and Ectopic Pregnancy Are Legal in Every State
> Date: July 2, 2022 at 11:08:30 AM CDT
> To: cgestabrook at gmail.com
> Reply-To: info at liveaction.org
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> Hi Mr. Estabrook, 
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> We hope your weekend is off to a great start!
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> Here are a few top articles from the past week for you:
>  <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VVWNmL4jtXnlVTvxxX4NLffWW6fpr4J4M0fpTMBB8Tk2-TkQV1-WJV7CgJKHW6bRWQf70tM_CW41d7gR7Gn0dPW6vF9x035s5qHW5ZtGvt2j0hdBW6MYHDt7VxL3dW8qkr_92R1HMNW2YD6YR9ljkPFVZxF7B98xrc1W4K67xK1nvgtPW4G_Q8k6RrJqyW3ZfF1D13W88kV2JjPt4RKZXNW9dCPYS162qzLW3tgZSB1VWFdwW6jK35Z1gnMLSV6tKdq8YFC85W7Sb6PC2yL6DgW905j7S50Nv9nW660TZl9m4F_WW4XlDtC2d34v9W2Sh87N1ZVJS0W7CYDTr3_0CR53fFz1>
> Fact: Treatments for Miscarriage and Ectopic Pregnancy Are Legal in Every State <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VVWNmL4jtXnlVTvxxX4NLffWW6fpr4J4M0fpTMBB8Tk2-TkQV1-WJV7CgQSmW4h2pts2XKtjbW26l_J06x_kpFW1ps8mR7TKxTvW3mqB8x62_JyZW27cjBz7Y-XjMN3v6j8VfqP9rW33Tmvk5PS3LYW54P8QZ8nHLv1W6r0GWC8Q1V0CW8h1Yhh3md90-VDMTF35lYXdQW8RG8t34hB5N1N6XTz-kkW83VW2tyMv14QRfZbM4LxrcJ4WtbW1yNCSn670cjvW8Z-00r4Lw5l5W4pLRR07hwZktN3q9-dmHfm3sW3VSVjR7JWKV6N3NPxsrt6hSLN50TqZx2W5n83qhk1>
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> The overturning of Roe v. Wade has opened the flood gates of pro-abortion propaganda and misinformation. One of the most popular claims being spread right now is that treatment for miscarriages and ectopic pregnancies will be banned in pro-life states. This is false.
> Read more
>  <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VVWNmL4jtXnlVTvxxX4NLffWW6fpr4J4M0fpTMBB8Tk2-TkQV1-WJV7CgSp4W5c6fGG3fRc0BW80m7ZF6YbP0sW3Rt0-m5mWp6sW2ZnMH121mBZJW1Lj1t53ZxGymN3sv3VJlRVZ6W63ZXCG7KqxlmW7YC95-8BGXjQW6SqWmT3p1_fdW15TJzX6-SbW8W3PV6wD2vb_N0W1SdN554-c2vHW78pmPN5d81XQW27wlh11lwRMjVnjXQn6bP4bjW4TyQv62jSLhYW4X4cgv8l9z4FF1xw69f3d5zW2dyCJW5VX2xtW23NKpl4Q7236W8c533y5lHvpxW2dcCHb1CfCls35XM1>
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>  <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VVWNmL4jtXnlVTvxxX4NLffWW6fpr4J4M0fpTMBB8T12-TkwV1-WJV7CgF-XVBm3vJ14qpFyW97QtQm5LlytmW5Qyg3S77s3zkW3tbKLS7f1SKKW5NNr1v5nbmdcW2n62gs2MVpS8W14XCFr6VQWkbW49pTY46jkF4JW6NPbHR2wzzXqW1cRwKg4CLcYpW5tqt7629g3CqW2XTmc55QvQnBW13bMwp3czj95W556Rfj12wqVLVzQm8y5pBHyvN5Qkb7NJnhNmW4ztx8z38wMPXW1CZFzN716t0NW3BJ2Pm9jj0_4W1MxW5N34585f31zs1>	
> Woman Devastated by Abortion as a Teen Now Shares Her Story to Help Others <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VVWNmL4jtXnlVTvxxX4NLffWW6fpr4J4M0fpTMBB8T12-TkwV1-WJV7CgKZ5W4X4pzx6kn6RyW3H54VT17RXqvW91q-MS41W5QwW3NhF0F473y7YW2WNLzt8c07b5N3YzQ0w6dpQkW4HXZ225Fq80tW6Gq9Df45CMwkW5xkf-5885wxQW27qrG-2M7cNTW1sNKC06M11QgW1Qgv0c67Q9TJW1W2_QT1Yqwy3W8S4sCN9bH3D8W5lndVl9jMD3zW4yMKwX3wC1fvW72Vl576mXL6dN4TMQqmr9mC3W6gTbw33vGL5DW8-GRHY4Zjkj33pyJ1>
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> ?I wanted these women to know the devastation abortion wreaks not just physically but also emotionally and spiritually. I urged them not to make rash decisions out of desperation, but to explore other options. Once you [have chosen] abortion, you can?t bring your baby?s life back."
> Read more
>  <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VVWNmL4jtXnlVTvxxX4NLffWW6fpr4J4M0fpTMBB8T12-TkwV1-WJV7CgM6qW66Qsys12XkHnW8SHSt46qM-v2W8JFPYR8zqVwYW8lB2WK86mYsVW2w7mfk36j1PQW5HNYjf7Z5N_4W2CtYGn20W2D2W8WDQQP787bpXN2t1mngpxGbWW7LSbBS3gYC7dF682ZvQMh39N6Bc5wHBHk7FW8WqF8f4wldtXW6JkkjM55xSsMW22ctTN7gr9cTW3yfnrG1ghbF-W2hCMTp3sMHtgW50StZh5T2MMPN3FM8c8Glsb2W1t_Lfm5SZjf-3g131>
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> Faith Leaders, Members of Congress Demand US AG Respond to Acts of Pro-Abortion Terrorism <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VVWNmL4jtXnlVTvxxX4NLffWW6fpr4J4M0fpTMBB8TD2-Tl5V1-WJV7CgX42W98K66w192S2WW1163W115Bk4hVb_pD03RSQ29W8Pcvgj6Cf3f5W3vPs5y8f_X0lW5gH57H1lHYNMVVWhzQ86QHBWW6YhVB64qS1lyW78wVPY2PSjgDW1JN8hj5qctZ9W3__kyT5kVy7LW7rr7S43FF8KQW2F8jPH6h8cbGN7kNtldFvWYfW7tTF735-nQZBN1B7Y_VKXZH9VV3bZ18Cvkw-W633cZC2JC7_RW6JdzbY4hNsJ0W4lYtXy3j9Dq0W6WHVVF2C0JYgW5C_GWr2lb3wFW3PG2GV8chHnNW1XQZrb8vxkQ42C41>
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> In light of recent acts of pro-abortion terrorism against pro-life centers, dozens of faith leaders and pro-life groups have joined CatholicVote in sending an urgent letter to U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland and Assistant Attorney General Clarke demanding action.
> Read more
>  <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VVWNmL4jtXnlVTvxxX4NLffWW6fpr4J4M0fpTMBB8TD2-Tl5V1-WJV7CgKcMW2MCHWb5qtcc-W7Pwt429m2QWsW7Rx2f02NsmWDW4PZpJb32FqJwM8lY2s1bZNZW5tdnrq5LMtMvW38BFJ09039mcW7JXKTb7QBJ8sVRSr_C4p1-BmW38fV6T2y3tM2W7r720c8cT-lWN4Pcl122rh5dW6ZTQ-W69pg91W6r-5-b1vQcgVW58BVx85syxdDW5DG39h4HtnqCVpSlw51b6G1YN6xX44kFWHDjN6FPjffyKH0HW1zXBxG19bj6wW6M_Fc52DtsSRW7XWNk53s3jyZW2jzWQK3qGJgkW54DkSh78cm693jFy1>
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> ?Devastating?: Celebrities React With Anger to the End of Roe v. Wade <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VVWNmL4jtXnlVTvxxX4NLffWW6fpr4J4M0fpTMBB8T12-TkwV1-WJV7CgL9bW1g0VCF6tnJmmW3bz7dK5hjXPWW28TjPV8fZ85gW2GS9hH2NNXtfW4ybnD46zlW-HW6JgmSK3n8KnLW3xpMdF7x0yTcW2zY8bq6q5TRBW5hssGZ7C6RdPW57QQ_44Ksm2YW7GFh_H5Ql-WpW7JkM161VMwnFW1ZKKS-5d21ZrW1b8pL63lBHdNVDTy-g7LZcjsW5qgmym1Kt5m9W6GjBQT6J5H4_W1_gXYD7qw7sWW8MDhG_72XSV0W766qdf1vs67b3fSG1>
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> Since the Supreme Court issued its landmark ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women?s Health Organization, overturning Roe v. Wade, Hollywood is lashing out. As expected, many celebrities took to social media to express their dissatisfaction with the ruling, which places the issue of abortion back in the hands of the states.
> Read more
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> Biden Administration Gave Money to Planned Parenthood for Drug Overdose Prevention <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VVWNmL4jtXnlVTvxxX4NLffWW6fpr4J4M0fpTMBB8Tk2-TkQV1-WJV7CgST-W619kxQ99fRHyW2KM0F11GSDYrW8dykx43G8TgpW7fNSHW3Z45gxVrcQJ57bJwVqN3hYcqD8Ny40W5tfmFc2cZRT4W1_JRTV6Ptw8zW5NyCcj2q5tc2W4p4wVK8yXTfrW277Cf61tFb1zW6wCh2l47nJLtW5BRZWD9kcv7qW4GCk1G19w84pW82wGVl6KN1vmW5PrYxF2429YKW77Jv3p1LXNc2Vv_Lb25fF1FyW6Xrl0R4KDJ6sW2BdVSF18NbxPW6-Thvq730PhCW9d-qxY7-lN373mxW1>
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> The Biden administration has awarded a grant to Planned Parenthood of Greater New York as part of the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration?s (SAMHSA) harm reduction program, according to The Daily Caller. But there is no concrete information available on how that money will be spent.
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> 14-year-old Tyce Pender already considers Eric Jenkins his father. All that?s left is to make it official through adoption ? and Pender wants to do everything he can to help.
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> Parents Win Appeal to Keep Son on Life Support and Have Different Judge Hear His Case <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VVWNmL4jtXnlVTvxxX4NLffWW6fpr4J4M0fpTMBB8Tk2-TkQV1-WJV7CgGcDW22QMRH80pX8WW6-_0hW9hbZNlW5rRdQM3QTw6JW5gGM3L3zrqT-W7gpdVj5Qpr4LW4Qbvx_5K86tHVRR9yX4vS_lmW6hzdd75FsgdxVR8z8M4Wyq7pW4DBgX529KwyrW7lCbY56rvXJvW4rqljh4WxxF1VNfHkH47-j8mW4Yzjmb7Pb3G3N71Xq9Pkcp8SW91hQpm7xM_t6W6jyHjB7g_B2GW6MGKtz2YKDfdW7pG-JC5z1hxsN7zqcX7jgYGFW2fTw2b3J-Xw1VT5w-T84hxc_3grR1>
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> Archie Battersbee?s parents Hollie Dance and Paul Battersbee have won their appeal to keep their son on life support. ?We?re delighted,? said Dance. ?We wanted another hearing and we?ve got everything we wanted.? 
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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Sat Jul  2 20:51:27 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2022 15:51:27 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?b?VGhlwqBFbmTCoG9mwqBSb2UuSGVyZcKgaXM=?=
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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Sat Jul  2 20:55:32 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2022 15:55:32 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] The end of Roe
Message-ID: <8240FAA1-0186-4A22-B70A-5594FBFD7A47@newsfromneptune.com>

https://international.la-croix.com/news/ethicsthe-end-of-roe/16331

From davidgreen50 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 21:38:23 2022
From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:38:23 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tweet from Will Schryver (@imetatronink)
Message-ID: <CAOiGAyELYOszZF3xk8F1sr+2G-4=OfUq4pwi-9hBYgmKCraSGA@mail.gmail.com>

Will Schryver (@imetatronink) tweeted at 3:46 PM on Fri, Jul 01, 2022:
?Why the US/NATO could never win and will never fight a war against Russia
? unless the #EmpireAtAllCosts cult somehow seizes the reins of power, in
which case, it will become the biggest catastrophe in US military history,
and likely result in a nuclear war:

1/
(
https://twitter.com/imetatronink/status/1542973048483000320?t=YO7K6jPf_It4QL-tczhzcg&s=03
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From davidgreen50 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 21:39:15 2022
From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:39:15 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tweet from Michael Tracey (@mtracey)
Message-ID: <CAOiGAyFjFdcWsxkeKgzgkiUr_Y6xFZQW-FBskAK65-10kpqchA@mail.gmail.com>

Michael Tracey (@mtracey) tweeted at 4:29 AM on Sat, Jul 02, 2022:
>From the outset, a bunch of people invented a bunch of fake "expectations"
about how the war in Ukraine would supposedly unfold -- based on hunches,
deliberate propaganda, or both -- and then judged every subsequent
development relative to those "expectations," which were fake
(
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1543164895872548864?t=UbYxhnbTvjjwxSI8rO4E-Q&s=03
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From moboct1 at aim.com  Sun Jul  3 01:56:23 2022
From: moboct1 at aim.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2022 01:56:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tweet from Michael Tracey (@mtracey)
In-Reply-To: <CAOiGAyFjFdcWsxkeKgzgkiUr_Y6xFZQW-FBskAK65-10kpqchA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOiGAyFjFdcWsxkeKgzgkiUr_Y6xFZQW-FBskAK65-10kpqchA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <796114123.798554.1656813383586@mail.yahoo.com>

Which reminds me of a question I have about Scott Ritter's supposed reversal of his earlier analysis of the Russia-Ukraine war that Russia's troops surrounding Ukraine would tactically win the conflict, then he reversed himself?(after being banned from You Tube (?) and predicted that Russia?was actually losing, which he later reversed again in another online appearance to affirm his original thesis that Russia would prevail.? My question: was Ritter's first reversal a counterfeit manipulation (think CIA here) by pretending he expected Ukraine would defeat their enemy (which he ultimately reversed). It is a puzzlement...
Midge

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Michael Tracey (@mtracey) tweeted at 4:29 AM on Sat, Jul 02, 2022:
>From the outset, a bunch of people invented a bunch of fake "expectations" about how the war in Ukraine would supposedly unfold -- based on hunches, deliberate propaganda, or both -- and then judged every subsequent development relative to those "expectations," which were fake
(https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1543164895872548864?t=UbYxhnbTvjjwxSI8rO4E-Q&s=03)?_______________________________________________
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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Tue Jul  5 01:19:42 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 20:19:42 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: [marxmail] Interview with Boris Kagarlitsky:
 "Putin's war driven by domestic politics"
References: <SL2P216MB1516395F05F325D9BDBEA8F5C4BE9@SL2P216MB1516.KORP216.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <6A54211D-A828-47ED-9966-CB5285F24437@newsfromneptune.com>



> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: "Chris Slee" <chris_w_slee at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [marxmail] Interview with Boris Kagarlitsky: "Putin's war driven by domestic politics"
> Date: July 4, 2022 at 6:32:16 PM CDT
> To: marxmail <marxmail at groups.io>
> Reply-To: marxmail at groups.io
> 
> I don't wish to defend Kagarlitsky's past political positions.  But I think it is simplistic to say that the Donetsk and Luhansk "peoples republics" were "creations of Russian military aggression".
> 
> Ukrainian socialist Taras Bilous has a more nuanced understanding.  He says that the situation in Donbas in 2014 was "complicated". 
> 
> https://commons.com.ua/en/self-determination-and-the-war-in-ukraine/ <https://commons.com.ua/en/self-determination-and-the-war-in-ukraine/> 
> 
> In an interview with an Italian left magazine he said:
> 
> "Forse il miglior quadro per spiegare la guerra nel Donbass ? quello del conflitto tra due nazionalismi, in cui persone di opinioni diverse, tra cui la sinistra e l?estrema destra, hanno preso parte da entrambi i lati."
> 
> "Perhaps the best framework for explaining the war in the Donbas is that of the conflict between two nationalisms, in which people of diverse opinions, including the left and the extreme right, have taken part on both sides."
> 
> "In primo luogo, l?inizio della guerra nel Donbass fu un processo complesso. Da parte filorussa, gli attori principali erano tre: il movimento di base, emerso come reazione alla vittoria di Maidan; le ?lite regionali che hanno cercato di usare il movimento separatista per mantenere il loro potere, che vedevano minacciato dal nuovo governo post-Maidan; la Russia, le cui azioni hanno intensificato la violenza e approfondito il divario tra le parti in conflitto. Se non fosse stato per le azioni della Russia, il conflitto nel Donbass avrebbe potuto limitarsi a scontri di piazza tra manifestanti filo-ucraini e filo-russi, piuttosto che degenerare in una guerra a tutti gli effetti."
> 
> "In the first place, the start of the war in the Donbas was a complex process.  On the pro-Russian side, the principal actors were three:  the movement from below, that emerged as a reaction to the victory of Maidan;  the regional elite, that sought to use the separatist movement to maintain their power, that they saw threatened by the new post-Maidan government;  Russia, whose actions intensified the violence and deepened the division between the parties in conflict.  If it had not been for the actions of Russia, the conflict in Donbas could have been limited to clashes in the squares between pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian demonstrators, rather than degenerating into a war with all its effects."
> 
> https://www.officineciviche.it/sociale/ucraina-una-prospettiva-solidale-e-popolare-ne-parliamo-con-taras-bilous/ <https://www.officineciviche.it/sociale/ucraina-una-prospettiva-solidale-e-popolare-ne-parliamo-con-taras-bilous/>
> 
> 
> Thus Bilous recognised the existence of a "movement from below" (movimento di base, which can also be translated as "grass roots movement") in Donbas.  This was presumably what impressed Kagarlitsky back in 2014.  He may have exaggerated it, but he did not invent it.
> 
> 
> 
> ***
> 
> 
> 
> Some dogmatic commentators say:  "Ukrainian fascists played a major role in the Maidan rebellion.  The United States supported the rebellion.  Therefore the rebellion was a US-backed fascist coup".
> 
> Other dogmatic commentators say: "Russian fascists played a major role in the Donbas rebellion.  Russia supported the rebellion.  Therefore the rebellion was a Russian-backed fascist coup".
> 
> 
> 
> Both positions ignore the complexity of the situation.
> 
> 
> Chris Slee
> 

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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Tue Jul  5 01:22:51 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 20:22:51 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: [marxmail] The Institute for Christian
 Socialism Wants to Bring Left Politics to American Christianity
References: <1740272092.1090446.1656977036964@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B439DC35-EF32-4D8D-899F-A3352C815224@newsfromneptune.com>



> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: "Charles Keener via groups.io" <ckeener20005=aol.com at groups.io>
> Subject: [marxmail] The Institute for Christian Socialism Wants to Bring Left Politics to American Christianity
> Date: July 4, 2022 at 6:23:56 PM CDT
> To: "marxmail at groups.io" <marxmail at groups.io>
> Reply-To: marxmail at groups.io
> 
> This intersection of faith and politics appeals to me.
> 
> Charles
> 
> 
> The Institute for Christian Socialism Wants to Bring Left Politics to American Christianity (jacobin.com) <https://jacobin.com/2022/07/institute-christian-socialism-base-communities-left-religion>
> 
> Institute for Christian Socialism - Building the Christian Left <https://christiansocialism.com/>
> 
> The Institute for Christian Socialism is trying to build left-wing solidarity within religious communities. In their eyes, an awareness of and commitment to socialism is inherent to the Gospel.
> 
> In the twenty-first century, the religious right has something close to a stranglehold on public-facing Christianity. From Ronald Reagan to Donald Trump, white Evangelicals have had a long and fruitful love affair with the Republican Party. Meanwhile, the Federalist Society has placed six conservative Catholic judges on the Supreme Court. Today, Christianity as a political project seems to belong to right-wing reactionaries. Left-wing Christians exist, yet it is difficult to imagine what an American mass movement of them would even look like.
> 
> The Institute for Christian Socialism (ICS), founded in 2019, is trying to change that.
> 
> ICS follows the ?socialism of the gospels,? claiming that the teachings of Jesus are irreconcilable with capitalism. Inspired by the many liberatory traditions influenced by Christian teachings ? the communitarian societies of the Catholic Worker movement of the 1930s; the Latin American base communities that radicalized rural populations in the 1970s and 1980s; and the nonconformist Diggers, who built early agrarian socialist communities in the seventeeth century ? ICS welds Christian faith with socialist organizing. It teaches that faith in the gospel must include a commitment to overturning capitalism and building a better world.
> 
> 
> _._,_._,_

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From jbn at forestfield.org  Tue Jul  5 22:10:03 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2022 17:10:03 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Recommended videos for AWARE on the Air,
 News from Neptune, and Labor's World View TV
Message-ID: <ae17d05a-8a44-95e9-23ca-4c1f0ab070f9@forestfield.org>

Here are the videos I recommended to run during AWARE on the Air, News from
Neptune, and Labor's World View TV.

As a reminder: If anyone else has anything to run, please feel free to get your video 
pointers to UPTV (UPTV at urbanaillinois.us). I have continued to ask UPTV to prioritize 
AWARE members video pointers over mine for AWARE on the Air, Carl Estabrook & David 
Green's video pointers over mine for News from Neptune, and David Johnson's video 
pointers over mine for Labor's World View TV.

I'm trying to suggest some newer videos such as Michael Pollan's drug talk which 
plays double or triple duty in these recommendations: his interview puts the War on 
Drugs in context (which is more in line with News from Neptune) and explains how this 
affects workers (more in line with Labor's World View TV) -- caffeine helps workers 
stay up longer and work more even if it means being hooked on a psychoactive drug 
possibly including sugar which is also a stimulant and a significant source of 
non-nutritive calories that carries other problems. Also I'm including some of the 
evidence of how EU countries are ruining their own economies by following the US-led 
regime change war on Russia by way of Ukraine (France is buying more Russian 
liquefied natural gas becoming the world's largest buyer of Russian LNG). Macron 
recently ran on a French nuclear renaissance. This means that France is paying more 
for Russian LNG and France could be buying that LNG at the pro-sanction/pro-war rate 
Russia is, quite rightly, said to be charging for countries that cooperate with the 
US-led NATO alliance).

My point is that so much of the news is hard to separate into labor/worker-related 
news, war news, and other politically interesting news so the categorization is 
somewhat arbitrary.

Enjoy.
-J


News from Neptune & AWARE on the Air
==================================================

Glenn Greenwald

David Miranda Talks to Stella Assange about Julian's Case
https://rumble.com/v17tex8-watch-david-miranda-talks-to-stella-assange-about-julians-case.html


Multipolarista

China builds 1000 schools in Iraq, after US killed 1 million Iraqis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUfNW_yYL8s


RT

Shower less = Stop Putin! | West?s ?progressive? anti-Russia strategy
https://rumble.com/v1a6bkh-shower-less-stop-putin-wests-progressive-anti-russia-strategy.html

West's nuclear tango with Russia
https://rumble.com/v1a659g-wests-nuclear-tango-with-russia.html

CrossTalk on Ukraine | Home Edition | End game?
https://rumble.com/v1a4v8l-crosstalk-on-ukraine-home-edition-end-game.html

Hundreds denounce arms deliveries to Ukraine in Ramstein
https://rumble.com/v19zk8e-hundreds-denounce-arms-deliveries-to-ukraine-in-ramstein.html

Israel exonerates itself of killing Palestinian journalist
https://rumble.com/v1b762f-israel-exonerates-itself-of-killing-palestinian-journalist.html

France's schizophrenic energy strategy | Russian LNG imports increased
https://rumble.com/v1b845b-frances-schizophrenic-energy-strategy-russian-lng-imports-increased.html


Various posters

Saabir posted a cut of a longer talk at https://youtube.com/watch?v=qciVozNtCDM 
posted by The Robert Schuman Centre for Advanced Studies

Ukraine war | An unmitigated disaster | John Mearsheimer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRDt2NWmlV4



Novara Media

How Drugs Have Shaped History | Michael Pollan
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y4BAWFJWvik




Labor's World View TV
==================================================

More Perfect Union

Amazon Workers TAKE ON Racist And Anti-Union Management
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fakLrzT15Y

Why Flights Are Being Cancelled At Record Rate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmmwZ_vn5X0

These Apple Store Workers Could Form The Company's First Union
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byEiar632hs

Why Is The Rent So Damn High In Florida?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mymA9qWgVhk

Rent Control Explained: Debunking Your Landlord's Myths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9ovIqH5mms

The Untold History Of Trader Joe's Union-Busting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WleTV68axHc

Trader Joe's Workers In Minneapolis Are Unionizing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTDjrz2ZJ0Y

Delta Flight Attendants are Unionizing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEVr-hcOiTo


Novara Media

How Drugs Have Shaped History | Michael Pollan
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y4BAWFJWvik

From moboct1 at aol.com  Thu Jul  7 11:53:56 2022
From: moboct1 at aol.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2022 11:53:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Whaddaya know...
References: <255511025.1378648.1657194836228.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <255511025.1378648.1657194836228@mail.yahoo.com>

The unpopular Populist UK PM, Boorish Johnson, has finally resigned (Nixon-style, with arms twisted behind his back by members of his own party).? What will happen to his legacy, Brexit unplanned plans or Northern Ireland, is no longer his concern (if it ever was) for the next quarter before he leaves his cushy job to a clueless Conservative Party and a population facing economic uncertainty like the rest of Europe, thanks to the Biden war with Russia.?Then he can go back to writing witty copy for Rupert Murdock.

Farewell, Boorish!
mo'b
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From davidgreen50 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  7 15:24:27 2022
From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2022 10:24:27 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tweet from Ajamu Baraka (@ajamubaraka)
Message-ID: <CAOiGAyHc2LSHf6E0acuiGqfSQ4MW_dx0GM-cVvagc7opB06XnQ@mail.gmail.com>

Ajamu Baraka (@ajamubaraka) tweeted at 7:29 AM on Thu, Jul 07, 2022:
For a population that never fully recovered from capitalist crisis of 2008,
the mismanagement of pandemic & now the shifting of the burden of the
Ukrainian war onto the backs of the working class with higher food, energy
& inflation, has deepened legitimation crisis.
(
https://twitter.com/ajamubaraka/status/1545022288453636096?t=-OwrW11Xaq0Rn6vmtn1ZlA&s=03
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From moboct1 at aim.com  Thu Jul  7 15:55:43 2022
From: moboct1 at aim.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2022 15:55:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tweet from Ajamu Baraka (@ajamubaraka)
In-Reply-To: <CAOiGAyHc2LSHf6E0acuiGqfSQ4MW_dx0GM-cVvagc7opB06XnQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOiGAyHc2LSHf6E0acuiGqfSQ4MW_dx0GM-cVvagc7opB06XnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1739310037.1163385.1657209343885@mail.yahoo.com>

amen, amen!? Thanks, Dave.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Green via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
To: Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Thu, Jul 7, 2022 10:25 am
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tweet from Ajamu Baraka (@ajamubaraka)

Ajamu Baraka (@ajamubaraka) tweeted at 7:29 AM on Thu, Jul 07, 2022:
For a population that never fully recovered from capitalist crisis of 2008, the mismanagement of pandemic & now the shifting of the burden of the Ukrainian war onto the backs of the working class with higher food, energy & inflation, has deepened legitimation crisis.
(https://twitter.com/ajamubaraka/status/1545022288453636096?t=-OwrW11Xaq0Rn6vmtn1ZlA&s=03)?_______________________________________________
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From moboct1 at aol.com  Thu Jul  7 16:55:48 2022
From: moboct1 at aol.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2022 16:55:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] A proper farewell
In-Reply-To: <515227999.1246217.1657212263216@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <793199163.1637133646@pin.pinDB.mail.salsalabs.com>
 <1479821502.1168629.1657195965517@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAMq+KvjLuXMjPj_FQq_rmHSrQwLaPKpN1iLUuPDcv9OJfAVseA@mail.gmail.com>
 <456084624.1196052.1657211879534@mail.yahoo.com>
 <515227999.1246217.1657212263216@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1128522968.1200604.1657212948302@mail.yahoo.com>


Bye Bye, BOORIS!



Midge

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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Sun Jul 10 19:07:09 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 14:07:09 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Jeffrey Sachs
Message-ID: <0521A48E-F577-4402-90F4-6A780B8D1954@newsfromneptune.com>

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-192/



From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Mon Jul 11 22:34:44 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:34:44 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] THE WAR * GERMANY * THE LEFT o
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Thanks, Mort. This is the best general account of the coming of the US proxy war I?ve seen.
Makes it clear - if it wasn?t already - that the Biden administration must be opposed in upcoming elections 
- (even if that means voting for Republicans). Regards, CGE


> On Jul 11, 2022, at 3:39 PM, Morton K. Brussel <mkb0029 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> FYI.  
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Victor Grossman <wechsler_grossman at yahoo.de>
>> Subject: THE WAR * GERMANY * THE LEFT o
>> Date: July 11, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM CDT
>> To: victor grossman <wechsler_grossman at yahoo.de>
>> 
>> THE WAR * GERMANY * THE LEFT
>> 
>> BERLIN BULLETIN NO. 203; July 11, 2022
>> 
>> Victor Grossman
>> 
>>  
>> In 1307 in Switzerland, so goes the legend, the Habsburg rulers? local bailiff, Gessler, stuck his hat on a pole and commanded every passerby to salute it. Wilhelm Tell refused. As fearsome punishment he had to shoot an apple from his own little boy?s head with his crossbow. His aim was sure, the boy was safe. But "Gessler?s hat? still means forced obeisance to some symbol. Or else!
>> 
>>  
>> In current media, every mention of the war in Ukraine must start with a denunciation of  that monster Putin. Or else! What epithet is more withering  than ?Putin-lover?!
>> 
>>  
>> I, too, am not a Putin-lover. And I have a great hatred of war, especially war rained from the skies or aimed from a distance. Waging war, against civilians, even against young  uniformed ?adversaries,? is inherently wrong. But I will not bow my head to this modern ?Gessler?s hat?, no matter what epithets I may be pelted with (crossbows are rarely available). Actually, for my last Berlin Bulletin, while some readers accused me of being too ?pro-Putin? others said I was too ?anti-Putin?!
>> 
>>  
>> Despite my horror at the death, destruction and misery I see daily on TV, my entire background demands a careful analysis of a conflagration which may yet fling flames across more borders and can all too easily kindle atomic annihilation. Why did Russia send an army into Ukraine? Was it pure imperialism? A terrible miscalculation? Did Putin see it as a dire necessity? Or was it a baited trap?
>> 
>>  
>> To start with, I cannot forget, deny or ignore what I have seen happen since 1945; how the Pentagon, White House, Congress and those behind them sought the defeat of one pro-socialist effort after another. They failed in Cuba and Vietnam, they succeeded in Ghana, Grenada, Chile ? and, most important, in Europe! By utilizing every weakness, blunder, even offense, and exerting every form of pressure, Poland was won by a team led by Ronald Reagan, ?Polish Pope? John Paul II, the CIA and a few experts in the AFL-CIO. In 1989-90 it was the GDR?s turn, with help from US Ambassador to Bonn Vernon Walters, a former CIA Deputy Director who had played a major role in Poland. In 1991 came the glorious victory over the USSR, where Yeltsin, an alcoholic marionette, opened the gates to ten years of chaos, desolation and sell-out to new Russian oligarchs and not so new US corporations.
>> 
>>  
>> That?s when Putin stepped in, just in time to save Russia from total collapse, using his own set of oligarchs, crossing himself piously as he knelt in church but keeping a tight state hold on banks and basic resources. This was not at all what American businessmen and politicians wanted.  So the US-led military pact NATO, breaking its promise of 1990 not to move an inch eastwards, advanced, one regime-changed ally after the other, towards complete encirclement of Russia: in 1999 Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, in 2004 Slovakia, Bulgaria, Romania, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania; then the hinterland in fragmented, bombed ex-Yugoslavia: Slovenia,  Croatia, Montenegro, North Macedonia. Only a few more were needed to close a tight ring around Russia. Afghanistan did not pan out, nor did Georgia (though attempts are vigorously continuing). But most important was Ukraine, which could block Russia from the Black Sea and reached to within 400 miles of Moscow.
>> 
>>  
>> The elected president of that huge gem, unwilling to become part of the encircling noose, sought a more neutral position. ?Not enough!? said NATO and sent in Nuland. Victoria Nuland, deputy in Hillary Clinton?s State Department (and wife of a top cold war strategist), went to Kyiv, dealt out at least $5 billion and even tasty cookies to a largely right-wing, anti-Russian crowd, and maybe a few to the mysterious snipers who forced the president to flee for his life. In a famous hacked phone call she personally chose the next Ukrainian ruler, banker-politician Yatzenyuk, a man supported by the ?Freedom Party? of Oleh Tyahnybok, who had denounced a ?Jewish-Russian Mafia? and praised Ukraine?s new hero Stepan Bandera, who led in murdering thousands of Jews and Poles in 1941.
>> 
>>  
>> One of the new rulers? first measures discriminated against the many Russian-speakers, limiting the use of all but Ukrainian, making them second-class citizens and in Crimea angry enough to vote, with a big majority, to break with Ukraine and rejoin with Russia (to which they had belonged until 1954) and in eastern Donbas to form two separate republics, much as Albanian-speaking people in Kosovo broke away from Serbia in 2008. In such decisions national pride, or self-defense ? superseded complex international rules. Military operations against Donbas were soon launched, using the fascistic ?Azov? militia units.
>> 
>>  
>> With Ukraine now a new segment in the ring around Russia, USA-NATO built up its strength there, first with ?non-lethal? arms and trainers, letting allies like Lithuania pass on bigger stuff. Then came a series of military maneuvers. Defender-Europe 20 was hindered by Covid-19 but, in 2021, Sea Breeze was conducted in the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea with more than 30 warships and 40 planes from 32 countries not far from the Russians? southern naval base of Sevastopol.
>> 
>>  
>> Then it was Operation Cossack Mace, this time to ?improve compatibility between British and Ukrainian military formations, strengthen mutual relations, joint planning and perform battalion and tactical operations.? Two British-built naval bases were planned near the short Russian coast.
>> 
>>  
>> In September 2021 it was Rapid Trident 21. -?To increase combat readiness, defense capabilities and interoperability, the exercise features joint jumps of Ukrainian and U.S. paratroopers and, for the first time, service members will conduct battalion tactical exercises of a multinational battalion with combat shooting in a single combat order ? The purpose is to prepare for joint actions as part of a multinational force during coalition operations.? Joining the USA and Ukraine were Bulgaria, Canada, Georgia, Germany, Italy, Jordan, Lithuania, Moldova, Pakistan, Poland, Romania, Turkey and the UK.
>> 
>>  
>> Such activities were allegedly for peace, defending Ukraine against ?authoritarianism.? But Russia viewed the threat of cutting it off in the Baltic and Black Sea, plus 700 or 800 big or small USA bases on six continents, in a very different way. Washington was a safe 7800 miles away; St. Petersburg and Moscow were under the noses of those missile launchers, warplanes and warships, and the USA alone had a 13-1 preponderance over Russia in military spending. Bipartisan American politicians were outdoing themselves in reviling Russia, nor could the Maidan events with Victoria Nuland be forgotten.
>> 
>>  
>> As for Putin, like him or hate him, it is hardly surprising that he was alarmed, perhaps even for personal reasons in view of the fates of other leaders disliked by Washington: Allende, dead in his bombed residence, Lumumba, tortured and murdered, Saddam Hussein, hanged, Muammar Gaddafi, fatally sodomized, the Afghani Najibullah, castrated and stringed up, Usama Bin Ladin, shot in his rooms and dumped into the ocean, Slobodan Milo?evi?, mysteriously dying in a prison cell. (Fidel Castro was luckier, surviving over a hundred bungled CIA assassination attempts.)   
>> 
>>  
>> In a 14-page historical summary, Putin wrote:
>> 
>> ?We respect the Ukrainian language and traditions. We respect Ukrainians? desire to see their country free, safe and prosperous.? ? ?Russia is open to dialogue with Ukraine and ready to discuss the most complex issues. But it is important for us to understand that our Ukrainian partner defend its national interests not by serving someone else?s, that it not be a tool in someone else?s hands to fight against us.?
>> 
>>  
>> That was in July 2021. How sincere were such words? What did they mean in February 2022? Daring to ignore the ?Gessler hat,? I think basic Russian policy must be seen not as expansionist but as defensive. In 2015 Russia agreed to the Minsk II agreement to avoid further warfare in Donbas and resolve the conflict with negotiations and compromises. Kyiv ignored, indeed undermined Minsk II; Germany and France, its co-sponsors, abandoned it. Foreign Minister Lavrov made proposals to discuss a neutral Ukraine. At first Zelensky seemed interested - until pressure from Washington and London to ?stay tough? prevailed; Lavrov?s further requests to negotiate differences, above all to remove NATO troops and maneuvers from Russian borders, were rejected in December 2021 by Secretary of State Blinken, as ?very obvious nonstarters?. Was that rejection Putin?s ?red line?? Who knows? I only wish they had been ?starters? instead - for the White House and Pentagon. That could have saved the Ukrainians immense suffering and exile ? although it might have meant fewer billions for Northrup-Grumman or Raytheon.
>> 
>>  
>> And on February 24? Did Putin perhaps march into an elaborate trap - as Russia had once done in Afghanistan? Did he consider a big impending Ukrainian offensive against the Donbas republics and their Russian-speaking population, where 14,000 had died in ten years of battle, as an immediate danger to Russia? Did the many US-Ukrainian biological laboratories ? admitted to by Victoria Nuland in a US Senate committee hearing - seem an immediate threat? I cannot know.
>> 
>>  
>> One commentator, turning to history, recalled the surprise attack on the USSR by the Nazi armies in 1941, resulting in up to 27 million deaths and vast destruction. He surmised that Putin, seeing a growing, hostile Ukrainian army, with NATO (or the USA leaders) guiding it from the wings, decided that a first attack was necessary to prevent any repetition of 1941.
>> 
>>  
>> Putin defended  the invasion  of Ukraine with the following words:
>> 
>> ?Today we are told that we started a war in Donbas, in Ukraine. No, it was unleashed by this same collective West which organized and supported the unconstitutional armed coup d'?tat in Ukraine in 2014, then encouraged and justified genocide against the people of Donbas ?
>> 
>> ?The West is fighting Russia with all the tools that are also used in a war: weapons, sanctions, money, media, diplomacy. The only thing that slows the West down from intervening with its own soldiers is the danger of nuclear war.
>> 
>>  ?Ukraine is only the unfortunate sacrificial pawn of the West, which had been prepared for this role since 2014 and with which the West has provoked Russia (with the Maidan coup in 2014, arms deliveries, construction of NATO bases, etc.) until Russia saw no choice but to take military action to protect its own security interests. At the beginning of February 2022, the West rejected the security guarantees proposed by Russia in December 2021 and even refused to talk about them.?
>> 
>>  
>> That is Putin?s position. True or not,  and for whatever reason, invasion was a tragic choice! Aside from the misery in Ukraine it has led to a dangerously explosive polarization, painfully splitting the world?s weak left-wing forces for peace and progress.
>> 
>>  
>> And in Germany? For years the unified country was torn between two forces. Some economic groups, like gas importers and exporters of manufactured and agricultural goods, wanted to get along with Russia (and even more with China), a policy symbolized by Angela Merkel and the Baltic pipelines. This was angrily opposed by men along the Potomac, in Charles Koch?s Wichita HQ and similar locations, who wanted both to export fracked gas and to head off even limited German-Russian reconciliation. They were aiming at the eventual defeat of Russia, then China, as major barriers to their plans for world hegemony, prudently labeled ?the rule of order,? democracy, liberty (and free markets!) as against ?authoritarianism.?
>> 
>>  
>> Closely beholden to them was that force in Germany, the Atlanticists, whether because of ideology, intertwining corporate and financial interests, or perhaps even personal career hopes. After February 24th, inside and outside the governing coalition, the Atlanticists won full victory, filling the media with angry denunciation of everything Russian, working to permanently break off all commercial ties with Moscow, starting with the Baltic oil pipelines, even though this may well cause industrial shutdown s and maybe very chilly room temperatures. Christian Democrats, Free Democrats, and first and foremost the Green party joined the attack, with the young Green foreign minister Annalena Baerbock demanding that as many and as heavy weapons possible to be sent to Kyiv, with her cherished goal the ?ruin of Russia?.
>> 
>>  
>> The Social Democrats were not so clear, with Chancellor Scholz hesitant about sending heavy weapons to Kyiv and getting deeply involved in what could become an open war, NATO vs. Russia. But media attacks grew fiercer, and Scholz bowed to that ?Gessler hat,? siding with NATO and Washington, stationing more German troops in Lithuania and demanding an unprecedented sum of ?100 billion for more armaments to ?protect German security?.
>> 
>>  
>> The competition in denouncing Russia grew strong enough to revive half-forgotten tones from the 1930s, like when Lars Klingbeil, a leading Social Democrat, claimed that ?Germany?s allies have great expectations and Germany must fulfil them? It is time for it to exit the end-of-history mode and become a leading power on the world stage after almost 80 years of holding back."
>> 
>>  
>> Frightening words! Even more frightening were those of top air corps General Ingo Gerhartz: ?For a credible deterrent, we need both the means and the political will, if necessary, to implement nuclear deterrence." The ?old guard? in the established parties were beginning to summon up past glories!
>> 
>>  
>> The far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) is all out for those past glories but, like some other far-righters in Europe, did not join the verbal attacks on Russia and opposed armaments for Ukraine! Their main mission in nearly all matters is opposition ? above all to the European Union. But as dyed-in-the-wool nationalists, they also support a big German military build-up, a renewed draft and/or compulsory civil service for young men (as also recommended by President Steinmeier!).
>> 
>>  
>> The Left ? Die Linke ? has always stood out as the one party of peace, opposing deployment in Serbia, Afghanistan, Mali or anywhere outside German borders. Now it was split, with the main bone of contention the Ukraine war. Actually, disagreement on related issues was by no means new, though rarely so emotional as at the party congress session in late June.
>> 
>>  
>> It was a disastrous year for The Linke. In the September elections the party received only 4.9%, down from 6.9% four years earlier. Its caucus in the Bundestag  was only just saved by a special rule; if three or more delegates were elected directly in their districts the caucus was saved, even without 5%. Exactly three scraped through, but proportional representation now gave it 39 deputies, not its previous 69; no longer the strongest opposition party, it had become the weakest. The urgent party reassessment and changes called for by this disaster failed to materialize and the party lost bitterly in three state elections: Saarland ? from 12.8% to 2.6%, Schleswig-Holstein, 3.8 to 1.7% and in the key industrial North Rhine-Westfalia from 4.9 to 2.7%! Few workers voted Left. Some prominent members quit. The magazine Der Spiegel falsified a sex-related event (some obscure member?s alleged assault) into a malicious ?Me-too? attack on the more militant co-chair Janine Wissler for allegedly covering it up. Her ?reformist? co-chair,  Susanne Hennig-Wellsow, quit her leadership position in a huff, and with new leadership elections now necessary, the party faced total defeat, perhaps a split and even its demise!
>> 
>>  
>> In the main dispute the so-called reformers weakened the party?s basic opposition to NATO in hopes of being accepted in a government coalition with the pro-NATO Greens and Social Democrats. Such dubious hopes were rendered fully impossible by the Left?s poor election results. But the reformers still tended to play down or absolve the NATO?s current role, giving Russia and Putin the entire blame for the Ukrainian tragedy while the militant wing of the party viewed the NATO, especially the USA, as provocateurs, whose expansionist policy of deploying armaments and maneuvers along Russian borders was clearly looking for trouble ? and, sadly, getting it. The quarrel reflected a deeper rift ? between those who called for improvements in child care, pensions, minimum wages but saw socialism only as a future goal in vague clich?s while basically accepting a systemic status quo in which they strove to become accepted, despite the growing menace of the billionaires. The militants, while not calling for revolution tomorrow (like some ultra-leftists), nevertheless saw a rejection of the capitalist system as vital ? and basic opposition a necessity. The one group accepted NATO, the other opposed it. Their differences colored often hot but very brief Congress debates, which were dominated by the reformers, who won out in the end with about a 60-30 ratio - and managed to slip some very ardent pro-NATO advocates into leading positions. Janine Wissner was re-elected as co-chair (thus rejecting the malicious media smear). For co-chair, the usual male-female, East-West, leftish-reformist balance formula was maintained, and the militant, popular S?ren Pellmann from Leipzig, one of the three delegates to save the Left caucus by winning a seat in his district, lost out to the rather moderate Martin Schirdewan, till then a delegate in the European Parliament, who promised to put far more stress on working-class struggles while opposing armament sales to Ukraine and organizing for peace. He seemed to seek Left reconciliation ? and, at last, action.
>> 
>>  
>> Some on the left deplored the Congress results. Others were glad there had been no split, some political positions had been rescued, a threatened stress on ?gender issues,? even in grammar and punctuation, had been averted and a shaky compromise arrived at. It remain to be seen whether The Left can regain roots among working people for the many hardships and big menaces now looming.  And much may yet depend on its position regarding Gessler?s hat. A side note: In the famous play by Friedrich Schiller, the events involved led to the Swiss rebellion against Habsburg tyranny.
>> 
>> +++++++++
>> 
>> 
> 


From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 14:59:38 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 10:59:38 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] MA Peace Action: URGENT: Palestinian Amdt. Needs
 Support by Noon Today
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---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Brian Garvey
Date: Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 9:06 AM
Subject: URGENT: Palestinian Amdt. Needs Support by Noon Today

Friends,

*This is a chance to move the ball forward on Palestinian issues and get
more votes on this issue than we've seen before. We need calls right now.*

Please call Rules Chairman Jim McGovern now at:  DC:  202-225-6101;
Worcester office: 508-831-7356, Northampton office: 413-341-8700

"The Rules Committee will decide today whether an important Amdt. gets a
vote. Submitted by Rep. Andre Carson, Amdt. 996 would require the FBI to
investigate the death of American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh. If we
believe in the importance of the Free Press we need to investigate this
murder of an American citizen immediately. I want to know where my member
of Congress stands on this, and to do that we need this amendment to get a
vote."

*Call now. This can move the needle! *

-- 
Brian Garvey
Assistant Director
Massachusetts Peace Action
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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Thu Jul 14 17:04:17 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 12:04:17 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Celebrating Dobbs down Michigan Avenue,
 and calling Illinois to "catch up" to our Midwest neighbors
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: "March for Life Chicago" <info at marchforlifechicago.org>
> Subject: Celebrating Dobbs down Michigan Avenue, and calling Illinois to "catch up" to our Midwest neighbors
> Date: July 14, 2022 at 12:00:20 PM CDT
> To: "CG ESTABROOK" <cgestabrook at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: info at marchforlifechicago.org
> 
> 
> Thank you for marching for life!
> 
> "We are living in a momentous time as we witness a historic shift towards a culture of life," Kevin Grillot, Executive Director of the March for Life Chicago, proclaimed to the crowd of cheering pro-lifers gathered at the Dobbs Rally and March on Saturday.
> 
> "While we thank God for the Dobbs ruling that overturned Roe, we here in Illinois must admit that our neighbors in Missouri, Kentucky, North and South Dakota are showing Illinois the right way to take care of mothers and their children. Illinois must catch up!" - Kevin Grillot
> 
> Pro-life heroes joined in celebrating the end of Roe v. Wade, and shared how the pro-life movement is building a better future:
> 
> "Pro-abortion politicians are offering women nothing but abortion. We will make sure options exist that provide hope and a bright future for both women and their preborn babies." - Amy Gehrke, Executive Director of Illinois Right to Life
> 
> 
> Joined on stage with weDignify pro-life leaders, Anna Kinskey, Associate Director of the March for Life Chicago, spoke directly to young women:
> 
> "As a young woman, as a young mother, I am here to show you that women do not need abortion to be successful. To my fellow women - you are strong, you are capable of having your child and your education, of having your child and your career. Motherhood does not detract from your future- it empowers you to create a better one."
> 
> After the Rally, young men and women led the march down Michigan Avenue- in front of thousands of tourists in Millenium Park and at Taste of Chicago!
> 
> The Dobbs Rally reached hundreds of thousands through the Chicago Tribune, Fox32, CBS Chicago, and NBC carried the Rally in New York and throughout the country!
> 
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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Thu Jul 14 18:29:37 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 13:29:37 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Write Congress & Whit House re war
Message-ID: <2F707212-AC90-480E-A969-8AAC9C1F2486@newsfromneptune.com>

https://actionnetwork.org/letters/tell-congress-to-oppose-weapons-shipments-to-ukraine


From jbn at forestfield.org  Sat Jul 16 16:12:27 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2022 11:12:27 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Recommended videos for AWARE on the Air,
 News from Neptune, and Labor's World View TV
Message-ID: <665ea33a-ea66-1cf7-9d60-cdf38819e662@forestfield.org>

Here are the videos I recommended to run during AWARE on the Air, News from
Neptune, and Labor's World View TV.

As a reminder: If anyone else has anything to run, please feel free to get your video 
pointers to UPTV (UPTV at urbanaillinois.us). I have continued to ask UPTV to prioritize 
AWARE members video pointers over mine for AWARE on the Air, Carl Estabrook & David 
Green's video pointers over mine for News from Neptune, and David Johnson's video 
pointers over mine for Labor's World View TV.

Enjoy.
-J




News from Neptune & AWARE on the Air
==================================================

Multipolarista

Spanish lawmaker: NATO subordinates Europe to US, pushes war on China, enriches 
weapons companies
https://youtube.com/watch?v=F4C6MKbhuZQ

Real debt trap: Sri Lanka owes vast majority to West, not China
https://youtube.com/watch?v=U52tT5hgtSk


Consortium News

Assange Birthday: New Australian Senator & barrister David Shoebridge speaks at 
Sydney event
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZIEYhIsY3-M

Assange Birthday: Statement from veteran Australian journalist Mary Kostakidis
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eFi_hR1OGyI

FULL INTERVIEW: The Inflation Crisis Explained w/Richard Wolff
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jc40PaJGCFE


Katie Halper

'U.S. Left Has No Right To Judge China' - Vijay Prashad
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IpOunbwdeis


Democracy Now

As U.S. Funnels Money to Ukraine, Independent Media Faces Pressure to Parrot Official 
Narrative
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Kyznp8qUEkg




Labor's World View TV
==================================================

laborvideo

ILWU Protests Racist Graffiti At Port Of Oakland SSA Terminal
https://youtube.com/watch?v=viCypBaBm_4

"Bloody Thursday" The ILWU & Lessons Of History For Today At SSA Terminal In The Port 
Of Oakland
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6QFIJHYfLm4

ILWU "Bloody Thursday"1934 General Strike Commemoration At SSA Terminal Port Of Oakland
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qeTJEB3YxQI

Remember "Bloody Thursday" & Stop The Racist Graffiti At SSA! Press Conference At 
Port Of Oakland
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MzwJbWbVG5Q

Time To Shut It Down! A Day Of Action ILWU Juneteenth At The Port Of Oakland
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wzTUdzFfpkw

Angela Davis At The Port Of Oakland: Speech to ILWU Juneteenth Work Action On June 
19, 2020
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WH_J1BcULIg

Shut The World Down! Boots Riley At 2020 ILWU. Juneteenth At Oakland Oscar Grant Plaza
https://youtube.com/watch?v=s0D6oGzChlg

ILWU Locals 10 Trent Willis & 34 President Keith Shanklin On Democracy, 
Labor/Politics & Juneteenth
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6bVkOYvDEp8

ILWU Local 10 President Trent Willis on Elections, Trump,Labor & Identity Politics
https://youtube.com/watch?v=V7M_VS2MxtE

All Out On Juneteenth! "An Injury to One Is An Injury To All" ILWU Juneteenth Press 
Conference
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nWYn9GuByWg

ILWU Local 10 & 34 Leaders Speak Out On Juneteenth & Fight Against Racism & Worker Action
https://youtube.com/watch?v=auWwn_Sg3BM

"They Only Understand Power" At 2022 SF "Bloody Thursday" ILWU Local 10 Trent Willis 
Speaks Out
https://youtube.com/watch?v=65T6R9UCbp0

US Privatization Of Ukraine, Puerto Rico, PG&E & The Natalie Jeresko Ana Montosantos 
Connections
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rvHNktE-kAA

US Capitalism, The Ukraine & Imperialism With George Wright
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ilaiwLrziyM

The AFL-CIO, NED, Solidarity Center & US Labor Imperialism With Kim Scipes
https://youtube.com/watch?v=u-n1Neu5qwM

Assassinations, The AFL-CIO, AIFLD, Solidarity Center & NED With Frank Hammer
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4w-24vu7Jro

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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Sat Jul 16 17:20:46 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2022 12:20:46 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: In Ukraine, a proxy war on the planet
References: <20220716152534.3.31510588e2571a8a@mg-d1.substack.com>
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> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Aaron Mat? from Aaron Mate <mate at substack.com>
> Subject: In Ukraine, a proxy war on the planet
> Date: July 16, 2022 at 10:25:34 AM CDT
> To: cgestabrook at gmail.com
> Reply-To: Aaron Mat? from Aaron Mate <reply+129ndf&692a&&ca9df71095f9afc7acae5dfb420c6cb90976cee5a617b7510f4c69c45cfeac30 at mg1.substack.com>
> 
> 
> Open in browser <https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=100118&post_id=64275603&utm_source=email>
> In Ukraine, a proxy war on the planet <https://substack.com/redirect/2/eyJlIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly9tYXRlLnN1YnN0YWNrLmNvbS9wL2luLXVrcmFpbmUtYS1wcm94eS13YXItb24tdGhlLXBsYW5ldD90b2tlbj1leUoxYzJWeVgybGtJam95T1RFMk9ESXNJbWxoZENJNk1UWTFOems0TlRFME5Td2lhWE56SWpvaWNIVmlMVEV3TURFeE9DSXNJbk4xWWlJNkluQnZjM1F0Y21WaFkzUnBiMjRpZlEuaUZCMUYzMUhpSkh5dlZSYlZGOXpleTF5bUdPZmQ1bXZpc2NiVTV2U3ltcyIsInAiOjY0Mjc1NjAzLCJzIjoxMDAxMTgsImYiOnRydWUsInUiOjI5MTY4MiwiaWF0IjoxNjU3OTg1MTQ1LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMCIsInN1YiI6ImxpbmstcmVkaXJlY3QifQ.SbwU8QolxsJuHkQoHAyNs4F_8CoVaJ4PVb_na0XdrU4?>
> As the Ukraine crisis causes global havoc, US officials won't negotiate with Russia to end the fighting -- and are even willing to "countenance" mounting hunger as a result.
>  <https://substack.com/redirect/2da4c4c3-7351-4af4-97fb-fd3407430328?u=291682>	
> Aaron Mat? <https://substack.com/redirect/2da4c4c3-7351-4af4-97fb-fd3407430328?u=291682>
> 	Jul 16
>  <https://substack.com/redirect/6ea53ac2-14f4-4709-9958-656e3047afb1?u=291682>	
> (Marine Corps Cpl. Jailine Alicea-Santiago / media.defense.gov <http://media.defense.gov/>)
> In 2015, one year after a US-backed coup ushered in a US-friendly, far-right-dominated government <https://substack.com/redirect/12b00a48-6be2-4cfe-9ba6-fb8c43a8a74a?u=291682> in Kiev, University of Chicago professor John Mearsheimer issued a stark warning <https://substack.com/redirect/054af14f-b5c2-4ff2-8101-c5acfee46326?u=291682>. "The West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path," he said. "And the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked."
> 
> Mearsheimer's cause for concern was what he identified as a US-led campaign to convert Ukraine into a NATO proxy on Russia's border. The events since have proved him to be both tragically prescient, and understated.
> 
> In using Ukraine to "fight Russia over there", as Adam Schiff put it in January 2020 <https://substack.com/redirect/336b9299-2652-4502-ac2e-604c5a8d537b?u=291682>, the US has not only sacrificed countless Ukrainian lives. Four months into Russia's invasion, the Biden administration is signaling its willingness to sacrifice the rest of the planet, particularly the most vulnerable areas.
> 
> Subscribe now <https://substack.com/redirect/2/eyJlIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly9tYXRlLnN1YnN0YWNrLmNvbS9zdWJzY3JpYmU_dG9rZW49ZXlKMWMyVnlYMmxrSWpveU9URTJPRElzSW1saGRDSTZNVFkxTnprNE5URTBOU3dpWlhod0lqb3hOall3TlRjM01UUTFMQ0pwYzNNaU9pSndkV0l0TVRBd01URTRJaXdpYzNWaUlqb2lZMmhsWTJ0dmRYUWlmUS55YVJlalhrOS1oUF9sblJVMFZ2TVZYN2UwZE9weDVZcU1GaTVhdmliVTFFJnV0bV9zb3VyY2U9cG9zdCIsInAiOjY0Mjc1NjAzLCJzIjoxMDAxMTgsImYiOnRydWUsInUiOjI5MTY4MiwiaWF0IjoxNjU3OTg1MTQ1LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMCIsInN1YiI6ImxpbmstcmVkaXJlY3QifQ.8zvnNgF1htQrVe42Kh_gSfCId52rJr575igF1D8a5C8?&utm_medium=email&utm_source=subscribe-widget&utm_content=64275603>
> In an article headlined "Ukraine War Pushes Millions of the World?s Poorest Toward Starvation," <https://substack.com/redirect/1a4bfb75-6ec8-48b6-a6f8-1118711092b4?u=291682> the Wall Street Journal summarizes the impact of the Ukraine war on global hunger:
> 
> The World Food Program says that increases in the cost of food and fuel since March have pushed an additional 47 million people into acute food insecurity <https://substack.com/redirect/19588737-6c2e-428c-b51d-5c465ecb5e9f?u=291682>, when a person is no longer able to consume enough calories to sustain her life and livelihood, taking the total to 345 million people world-wide. Of those, some 50 million are living on the edge of famine.
> 
> In the energy crisis that has followed Russia's invasion, the New York Times adds <https://substack.com/redirect/8095e207-b1ec-4d73-aca0-3116ace6055f?u=291682>, "the poorest and most vulnerable" have felt "the harshest effects." In Asia and Africa, the International Energy Agency recently warned that "higher energy prices have meant an additional 90 million people in Asia and Africa do not have access to electricity."
> 
> By invading Ukraine rather than exhausting all diplomatic solutions, Russia bears obvious responsibility for the crisis. Ukraine?s grain exports, which feed multiple countries, have plummeted. Russia has denied blocking Ukrainian grain, instead faulting Kiev's extensive mining of <https://substack.com/redirect/005d93e8-471b-4956-aebe-ea3c8560561d?u=291682> its Black Sea ports. Ukraine has refused to de-mine those ports on self-defense grounds, claiming that doing so could invite further Russian incursions. Turkey, which has been brokering talks between the two sides, has just announced a pending deal to break the impasse <https://substack.com/redirect/df31a41b-2b84-428f-ad99-588d7221fff2?u=291682>.
> 
> But even if the Turkey-backed deal is implemented, a major cause of the food crisis will remain. The US-led sanctions regime against Russia has blocked international payments for Russian goods and necessary export licenses, including food shipments. As the New York Times notes <https://substack.com/redirect/24c3ee62-d7ca-4caf-b55c-ea40d8e8f0b9?u=291682>, "[s]oaring fertilizer prices, driven by sanctions on Russia and Belarus, along with high global energy prices, are broadening the scope of food shortages by making it more expensive to produce and transport food around the world."
> 
> The head of the African Union, Macky Sall, has linked US sanctions to the continent's food shortages. "Anti-Russia sanctions have made this situation worse and now we do not have access to grain from Russia, primarily to wheat," Sall warned in June <https://substack.com/redirect/aec0617b-adea-482f-b4d6-aad0881120e4?u=291682>. "And, most importantly, we do not have access to fertilizer. The situation was bad and now it has become worse, creating a threat to food security in Africa."
> 
> Rather than seek a diplomatic solution in Ukraine that could end the war and its worldwide deprivations, the US has shunned talks with Russia and made clear that it is even willing to tolerate global starvation.
> 
> Citing interviews with the White House, the Washington Post reports <https://substack.com/redirect/d2993728-3451-495d-b966-1373ed404f67?u=291682> that Biden "officials have described the stakes of ensuring Russia cannot swallow up Ukraine ? an outcome officials believe could embolden Putin to invade other neighbors or even strike out at NATO members ?as so high that the administration is willing to countenance even a global recession and mounting hunger." (emphasis added)
> 
> Left unquestioned is why a group of officials in Washington have arrogated themselves the right to "countenance" a global recession and mounting hunger ? including pushing millions toward famine -- on behalf of the rest of the planet...
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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Mon Jul 18 15:44:46 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2022 10:44:46 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?b?RndkOiBBIOKAnERlZnVuZC10aGUtQ0lB4oCd?=
 =?utf-8?q?_Democratic_Candidate_for_Congress_is_Calling_Biden_a_=E2=80=9C?=
 =?utf-8?q?War_Criminal=E2=80=9D_and_Demanding_His_Immediate_Impeachment?=
References: <290d7f9f719af49a4fc45a1b5.128a66b559.20220718153744.40b76e0b5a.13cb3139@mail103.atl18.mcdlv.net>
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> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: CovertAction Magazine <info at CovertActionMagazine.com>
> Subject: A ?Defund-the-CIA? Democratic Candidate for Congress is Calling Biden a ?War Criminal? and Demanding His Immediate Impeachment
> Date: July 18, 2022 at 10:37:58 AM CDT
> To: <galliher at uiuc.edu>
> Reply-To: CovertAction Magazine <info at CovertActionMagazine.com>
> 
> CovertAction Magazine
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> 
> A ?Defund-the-CIA? Democratic Candidate for Congress is Calling Biden a ?War Criminal? and Demanding His Immediate Impeachment <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://CovertActionMagazine.us18.list-manage.com/track/click?u=290d7f9f719af49a4fc45a1b5&id=7a1d32ffb1&e=128a66b559__;!!DZ3fjg!-mKscy_d8QW33St3SxdWUJfn7sZpoDzGQTwu1asCGwm7j2464qEwBZe4Y8xEKr5N3lzu38f16C0ss2nTCFV3ALc$>
> By Jeremy Kuzmarov on Jul 18, 2022 10:54 am
> Geoff Young, the openly anti-CIA candidate who won the Democratic Party primary in Kentucky, has upped the ante by demanding that Democrats honor the Constitution by impeaching their own party?s president.
> 
> Biden?s reckless provocation of China, his illegal use of U.S. troops in Iraq and Syria, and his co-belligerence in the Ukraine War make him a ?war criminal? who threatens world peace, says Young.
> 
> Candidate cites a CovertAction Magazine article in support of his call for Biden?s impeachment.
> 
> Geoff Young won the Democratic nomination for the U.S. House of Representatives in Kentucky's 6th Congressional District on May 17, 2022. He will face the incumbent, Republican Andy Barr, in the general election on November 8, 2022. His platform calls for abolishing the CIA, cutting the military budget, ending U.S. support for AFRICOM and taxing the rich more.
> 
> Unsurprisingly, Kentucky?s Democratic Party establishment says it won?t <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://CovertActionMagazine.us18.list-manage.com/track/click?u=290d7f9f719af49a4fc45a1b5&id=d43144f116&e=128a66b559__;!!DZ3fjg!-mKscy_d8QW33St3SxdWUJfn7sZpoDzGQTwu1asCGwm7j2464qEwBZe4Y8xEKr5N3lzu38f16C0ss2nTWXqr_v0$> support Young <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://CovertActionMagazine.us18.list-manage.com/track/click?u=290d7f9f719af49a4fc45a1b5&id=4fd4994167&e=128a66b559__;!!DZ3fjg!-mKscy_d8QW33St3SxdWUJfn7sZpoDzGQTwu1asCGwm7j2464qEwBZe4Y8xEKr5N3lzu38f16C0ss2nT-3EG_tc$> in the general election against his Republican opponent.
> 
> A leader of the Kentucky Democratic Party said <>: "The party cannot actively support a candidate that engages in countless frivolous lawsuits against the party, its officers and virtually every elected official over the past decade."
> 
> However, contrary to the entrenched party leadership, rank-and-file party voters seem to like what Geoff Young is doing and saying just fine, since they nominated him as their party?s candidate.
> 
> This week Young has called for the impeachment of President Joe Biden. Young wrote the following:
> 
> Each of the following actions, failures to act, and refusals to act constitutes an impeachable offense. Taken together, they justify President Biden's impeachment by the full U.S. House of Representatives as soon as possible and his conviction by the U.S. Senate soon afterwards. The first item is the most immediate and urgent one. [...]
> 
> See article <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://CovertActionMagazine.us18.list-manage.com/track/click?u=290d7f9f719af49a4fc45a1b5&id=8cba08cf38&e=128a66b559__;!!DZ3fjg!-mKscy_d8QW33St3SxdWUJfn7sZpoDzGQTwu1asCGwm7j2464qEwBZe4Y8xEKr5N3lzu38f16C0ss2nT63cInow$> for full description of each impeachable offense listed below...
> 
> Reckless, hostile and aggressive provocations against China
> Turning the United States into a co-belligerent with Ukraine against Russia
> Rejecting Russia's reasonable peace proposal in December 2021
> Helping Saudi Arabia massacre and starve millions of civilians in Yemen
> Illegally keeping U.S. troops in Iraq and Syria
> [?]
> 
> The post A ?Defund-the-CIA? Democratic Candidate for Congress is Calling Biden a ?War Criminal? and Demanding His Immediate Impeachment <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://CovertActionMagazine.us18.list-manage.com/track/click?u=290d7f9f719af49a4fc45a1b5&id=4971bd9d71&e=128a66b559__;!!DZ3fjg!-mKscy_d8QW33St3SxdWUJfn7sZpoDzGQTwu1asCGwm7j2464qEwBZe4Y8xEKr5N3lzu38f16C0ss2nTb5kY8AQ$> appeared first on CovertAction Magazine <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://CovertActionMagazine.us18.list-manage.com/track/click?u=290d7f9f719af49a4fc45a1b5&id=ae81d96a51&e=128a66b559__;!!DZ3fjg!-mKscy_d8QW33St3SxdWUJfn7sZpoDzGQTwu1asCGwm7j2464qEwBZe4Y8xEKr5N3lzu38f16C0ss2nTlJip28Y$>.
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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Fri Jul 22 23:11:28 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:11:28 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Presidential election
Message-ID: <C714328F-A2AC-44F6-B76C-17EB99B87577@newsfromneptune.com>

===========================================
Trump?s 1/6/2021 attempt to overcome the certification of 
the presidential election was unplanned and amateurish.
Had it been anywhere near as carefully planned and 
scripted as last night?s televised hearing of the ?House 
Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack
on the United States Capitol? -- Trump would be president.
As it was, the ?forces of order? won, and Biden is president.
============================================

From jbn at forestfield.org  Sat Jul 23 02:58:18 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 21:58:18 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Pepe Escobar, Peter Kuznick,
 and Ajamu Baraka on today's CrossTalk
Message-ID: <6659691d-1c38-e4b8-d5cc-f472336cea40@forestfield.org>

 From the show description:
> Has the so-called American Century come to an end? If so, how did this come about?
> Was it poor leadership or was the mission to lead the world always destined to
> fail? And, what follows the end of the American Century?
> 
> CrossTalking with Pepe Escobar, Peter Kuznick, and Ajamu Baraka.



Video
https://rumble.com/v1d69dn-crosstalk-empire-burlesque.html
https://lbry.bcow.xyz/@RT:fd/CROSSTALK22-yt:2

Transcript, Video, and Audio
https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/559387-world-end-american-century/

If the transcript isn't there yet, reload the page in a few days and the 
transcription will likely be there later.

From paulmueth at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 23 03:23:09 2022
From: paulmueth at yahoo.com (Paul Mueth)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2022 03:23:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Presidential election
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I guess you?ve seen text exchange between Ali Alexander and Trump.?Oh yeah. No one has?yet.?Sloppily planned perhaps. .?


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Trump?s 1/6/2021 attempt to overcome the certification of 
the presidential election was unplanned and amateurish.
Had it been anywhere near as carefully planned and 
scripted as last night?s televised hearing of the ?House 
Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack
on the United States Capitol? -- Trump would be president.
As it was, the ?forces of order? won, and Biden is president.
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From paulmueth at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 23 03:24:24 2022
From: paulmueth at yahoo.com (Paul Mueth)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2022 03:24:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Presidential election
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https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/EcurBNWYfn7EXzTb8?


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I guess you?ve seen text exchange between Ali Alexander and Trump.?Oh yeah. No one has?yet.?Sloppily planned perhaps. .?


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Trump?s 1/6/2021 attempt to overcome the certification of 
the presidential election was unplanned and amateurish.
Had it been anywhere near as carefully planned and 
scripted as last night?s televised hearing of the ?House 
Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack
on the United States Capitol? -- Trump would be president.
As it was, the ?forces of order? won, and Biden is president.
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From jbn at forestfield.org  Mon Jul 25 02:05:43 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2022 21:05:43 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Noam Chomsky gets it wrong about hearing from RT,
 Lavrov, and Russian news
Message-ID: <7ea19323-4953-043f-3da8-01c3aed37d0b@forestfield.org>

https://twitter.com/SizweLo/status/1550548521882947586 appears to have an excerpt 
from a recent and (as far as I know) new Chomsky interview by Russell Brand. I 
couldn't find the whole interview. Here's a transcript of that excerpt.

> Noam Chomsky: Take the United States today -- it is living under a kind of
> totalitarian culture which has never existed in my lifetime and is much worse in
> many ways than the Soviet Union before Gorbachev. Go back to the 1970's, people in
> Soviet Russia could access BBC, Voice of America, German television if they wanted
> to find out the news. If today in the United States you wanted to find out what
> Prime Minister Lavrov of Russia is saying, can't do it. It's barred. Americans are
> not permitted to hear what Russians are saying. Can't get Russian television,
> can't access Russian sources. That means also that fine American journalists like
> Chris Hedges, one of the best, is cut out, barred from Americans 'cause he happens
> to have a program running on RT (Russian television). You wanna find out what the
> adversary is saying, which is of utmost importance, you can maybe tune into Indian
> state television and find it out or you can read it on Al Jazeera. But the United
> States has imposed constraints on freedom of access information which are
> astonishing. And which, in fact, go beyond what was the case in Stalin Soviet
> Russia.


My response:


RT America, RT's US branch, was shut down. This means that all RT America shows 
(including Chris Hedges' show "On Contact with Chris Hedges") were cancelled. YouTube 
also removed all RT channels including RT America's YouTube channel. Therefore you 
can't find "On Contact" on YouTube now. Some American journalists have moved to 
Russia and continued their RT careers (like Fiorella Isabel of Convo Couch and Rachel 
Blevins). You can find reports of their lives in Russia on their own channels on 
Odysee[1].

Each of the following are fully accessible to Americans:

RT's website
https://rt.com/

RT's channel on Rumble.com publishes RT's videos and is constantly updated.
https://rumble.com/c/RTNews

RT's channel on Odysee also publishes RT's videos and is constantly updated. Odysee 
is a decentralized alternative to YouTube (hosted on LBRY, a blockchain-based 
file-sharing and payment network)
https://lbry.bcow.xyz/@RT:fd

VK.com (a Russian social media service) also hosts an RT channel with videos.

The same as above is also true for other RT outlets such as RT Documentaries and 
RUPTLY, RT's video service which makes documentaries and dead-roll camera footage. 
RUPTLY is, famously, the only news outlet to be on-site when Julian Assange was 
forcibly expelled from the Ecuadorian embassy[2].

RT.com also hosts pages for each of its shows & their transcripts, including RT 
America shows. "On Contact" shows and transcripts, for instance, are found at 
https://www.rt.com/shows/on-contact/

Lavrov's speeches can be found online including English translation (where Lavrov, 
who speaks fluent English, chooses to speak Russian instead). Here's a recent RT 
video segment which includes footage clipped from a Lavrov speech (the same video 
from two sources):
https://lbry.bcow.xyz/@RT:fd/lavrov_cairo_2407:1
https://rumble.com/v1dgckx-west-should-eliminate-obstacles-theyve-created-themselves-lavrov.html

RT also has 24/7 running news on Rumble.com & VK.com.

By now it should be clear that Chomsky's claim:

> If today in the United States you wanted to find out what Prime Minister Lavrov of
> Russia is saying, can't do it. It's barred. Americans are not permitted to hear
> what Russians are saying. Can't get Russian television, can't access Russian
> sources. That means also that fine American journalists like Chris Hedges, one of
> the best, is cut out, barred from Americans 'cause he happens to have a program
> running on RT (Russian television).


is not true.

All of these video-hosting services have YouTube-like user interfaces on their 
respective websites and so do so many of the privacy-respecting front-ends (like 
Invidious and other services). They're all just as easy to use as YouTube. They only 
require one to (literally) click another link and try. That's not a lot to ask, even 
of a non-technical computer user.

I fully understand that YouTube (Google) is among the American companies which are 
currently cooperating with American government-led censorship instead of suing the US 
government for 1st Amendment violations (as Glenn Greenwald says Google could do in 
https://rumble.com/vtyr34-democrats-are-pressuring-companies-to-censor-for-them-a-violation-of-the-fi.html 
and https://youtube.com/watch?v=g_uSPwYiVFs entitled "Democrats Are Pressuring 
Companies to Censor For Them: a Violation of the First Amendment" and a corresponding 
article).

YouTube is not the only way to see video online, nor is YouTube the only way 
Americans get videos online no matter how popular YouTube currently is. There are 
other ways of getting to RT's shows and segments, old and new. If Americans choose to 
remain ignorant of this fact and limit themselves to what YouTube distributes, that's 
unfortunate and only they can fix that for themselves. That is not an example of 
"living under a kind of totalitarian culture which [...] is much worse in many ways 
than the Soviet Union before Gorbachev".

I recommend using Firefox because Firefox respects user's freedoms to run, inspect, 
share, and modify the program. A Firefox add-on called "LibRedirect" offers an easy 
way to automatically use alternative front-ends for many privacy-disrespecting 
websites (such as YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Reddit, Imgur, search engines, 
and Wikipedia) as well as front-ends that are fast and don't require privacy-busting 
Javascript (including Reuters, Medium, and Odysee). Visit 
https://libredirect.github.io/download.html for more details and complete source 
code. LibRedirect costs no money and is free software (free as in freedom) as well.



[1] Rachel Blevins in Moscow: 
https://lbry.bcow.xyz/@RachelBlevins:5/testing%2C-testing...-live-from-moscow:a

Fiorella Isabel in Moscow: 
https://lbry.bcow.xyz/@TheConvoCouch:3/fiorella-in-moscow%2C-what-it%27s-really:3


[2] Despite the world being told ahead of time that Assange was about to be expelled 
from the embassy, establishment outlets didn't stick around to capture their own 
footage. This means that those outlets which chose to show that footage had to 
license that footage from RT.

From kmedina67 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 25 03:03:33 2022
From: kmedina67 at gmail.com (kmedina67)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2022 22:03:33 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Noam Chomsky gets it wrong about hearing from
 RT, Lavrov, and Russian news
In-Reply-To: <7ea19323-4953-043f-3da8-01c3aed37d0b@forestfield.org>
Message-ID: <62de0806.1c69fb81.96920.5a5b@mx.google.com>

Okay, so saying that you CAN'T find out what RT or Chris Hedges is saying was incorrect.?But it is pretty mind- blowing how access? changed- Karen Medina"The really great make you feel that you, too, can become great" - Mark Twain
-------- Original message --------From: "J.B. Nicholson via Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Date: 7/24/22  21:05  (GMT-06:00) To: Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Noam Chomsky gets it wrong about hearing from RT,
? Lavrov, and Russian news https://twitter.com/SizweLo/status/1550548521882947586 appears to have an excerpt from a recent and (as far as I know) new Chomsky interview by Russell Brand. I couldn't find the whole interview. Here's a transcript of that excerpt.> Noam Chomsky: Take the United States today -- it is living under a kind of> totalitarian culture which has never existed in my lifetime and is much worse in> many ways than the Soviet Union before Gorbachev. Go back to the 1970's, people in> Soviet Russia could access BBC, Voice of America, German television if they wanted> to find out the news. If today in the United States you wanted to find out what> Prime Minister Lavrov of Russia is saying, can't do it. It's barred. Americans are> not permitted to hear what Russians are saying. Can't get Russian television,> can't access Russian sources. That means also that fine American journalists like> Chris Hedges, one of the best, is cut out, barred from Americans 'cause he happens> to have a program running on RT (Russian television). You wanna find out what the> adversary is saying, which is of utmost importance, you can maybe tune into Indian> state television and find it out or you can read it on Al Jazeera. But the United> States has imposed constraints on freedom of access information which are> astonishing. And which, in fact, go beyond what was the case in Stalin Soviet> Russia.My response:RT America, RT's US branch, was shut down. This means that all RT America shows (including Chris Hedges' show "On Contact with Chris Hedges") were cancelled. YouTube also removed all RT channels including RT America's YouTube channel. Therefore you can't find "On Contact" on YouTube now. Some American journalists have moved to Russia and continued their RT careers (like Fiorella Isabel of Convo Couch and Rachel Blevins). You can find reports of their lives in Russia on their own channels on Odysee[1].Each of the following are fully accessible to Americans:RT's websitehttps://rt.com/RT's channel on Rumble.com publishes RT's videos and is constantly updated.https://rumble.com/c/RTNewsRT's channel on Odysee also publishes RT's videos and is constantly updated. Odysee is a decentralized alternative to YouTube (hosted on LBRY, a blockchain-based file-sharing and payment network)https://lbry.bcow.xyz/@RT:fdVK.com (a Russian social media service) also hosts an RT channel with videos.The same as above is also true for other RT outlets such as RT Documentaries and RUPTLY, RT's video service which makes documentaries and dead-roll camera footage. RUPTLY is, famously, the only news outlet to be on-site when Julian Assange was forcibly expelled from the Ecuadorian embassy[2].RT.com also hosts pages for each of its shows & their transcripts, including RT America shows. "On Contact" shows and transcripts, for instance, are found at https://www.rt.com/shows/on-contact/Lavrov's speeches can be found online including English translation (where Lavrov, who speaks fluent English, chooses to speak Russian instead). Here's a recent RT video segment which includes footage clipped from a Lavrov speech (the same video from two sources):https://lbry.bcow.xyz/@RT:fd/lavrov_cairo_2407:1https://rumble.com/v1dgckx-west-should-eliminate-obstacles-theyve-created-themselves-lavrov.htmlRT also has 24/7 running news on Rumble.com & VK.com.By now it should be clear that Chomsky's claim:> If today in the United States you wanted to find out what Prime Minister Lavrov of> Russia is saying, can't do it. It's barred. Americans are not permitted to hear> what Russians are saying. Can't get Russian television, can't access Russian> sources. That means also that fine American journalists like Chris Hedges, one of> the best, is cut out, barred from Americans 'cause he happens to have a program> running on RT (Russian television).is not true.All of these video-hosting services have YouTube-like user interfaces on their respective websites and so do so many of the privacy-respecting front-ends (like Invidious and other services). They're all just as easy to use as YouTube. They only require one to (literally) click another link and try. That's not a lot to ask, even of a non-technical computer user.I fully understand that YouTube (Google) is among the American companies which are currently cooperating with American government-led censorship instead of suing the US government for 1st Amendment violations (as Glenn Greenwald says Google could do in https://rumble.com/vtyr34-democrats-are-pressuring-companies-to-censor-for-them-a-violation-of-the-fi.html and https://youtube.com/watch?v=g_uSPwYiVFs entitled "Democrats Are Pressuring Companies to Censor For Them: a Violation of the First Amendment" and a corresponding article).YouTube is not the only way to see video online, nor is YouTube the only way Americans get videos online no matter how popular YouTube currently is. There are other ways of getting to RT's shows and segments, old and new. If Americans choose to remain ignorant of this fact and limit themselves to what YouTube distributes, that's unfortunate and only they can fix that for themselves. That is not an example of "living under a kind of totalitarian culture which [...] is much worse in many ways than the Soviet Union before Gorbachev".I recommend using Firefox because Firefox respects user's freedoms to run, inspect, share, and modify the program. A Firefox add-on called "LibRedirect" offers an easy way to automatically use alternative front-ends for many privacy-disrespecting websites (such as YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Reddit, Imgur, search engines, and Wikipedia) as well as front-ends that are fast and don't require privacy-busting Javascript (including Reuters, Medium, and Odysee). Visit https://libredirect.github.io/download.html for more details and complete source code. LibRedirect costs no money and is free software (free as in freedom) as well.[1] Rachel Blevins in Moscow: https://lbry.bcow.xyz/@RachelBlevins:5/testing%2C-testing...-live-from-moscow:aFiorella Isabel in Moscow: https://lbry.bcow.xyz/@TheConvoCouch:3/fiorella-in-moscow%2C-what-it%27s-really:3[2] Despite the world being told ahead of time that Assange was about to be expelled from the embassy, establishment outlets didn't stick around to capture their own footage. This means that those outlets which chose to show that footage had to license that footage from RT._______________________________________________Peace-discuss mailing listPeace-discuss at lists.chambana.nethttps://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss
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From jbn at forestfield.org  Wed Jul 27 02:04:06 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 21:04:06 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Noam Chomsky gets it wrong about hearing from
 RT, Lavrov, and Russian news
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References: <7ea19323-4953-043f-3da8-01c3aed37d0b@forestfield.org>
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I wrote:
> https://twitter.com/SizweLo/status/1550548521882947586 appears to have an excerpt
> from a recent and (as far as I know) new Chomsky interview by Russell Brand. I 
> couldn't find the whole interview. Here's a transcript of that excerpt.


Jimmy Dore just covered this in 
https://rumble.com/v1dmvd1-u.s.-censorship-worse-than-in-soviet-russia.html with his 
guests Aaron Mat? and Kurt Metzger. Sadly they too seem to have gotten a significant 
part of the story wrong by not listening very closely to what Chomsky said or doing a 
small bit of their own research. Dore makes some good points toward the middle but 
then cites a clumsy so-called "discrediting" of Chomsky around 3m58s, time better 
spent on far better arguments to discredit what Chomsky's claims. Mat? brought up 
valid and interesting points on how RT, in particular, was kept from participating in 
news reporting but none of those points were raised by Chomsky.

To remind you, here's a transcript of the slightly longer clip presented on the Jimmy 
Dore segment linked above from rumble.com:


> Noam Chomsky: Take the United States today -- it is living under a kind of 
> totalitarian culture which has never existed in my lifetime and is much worse in 
> many ways than the Soviet Union before Gorbachev. Go back to the 1970's, people in
> Soviet Russia could access BBC, Voice of America, German television if they wanted
> to find out the news. If today in the United States you wanted to find out what
> Prime Minister Lavrov of Russia is saying, can't do it. It's barred. Americans are
> not permitted to hear what Russians are saying. Can't get Russian television,
> can't access Russian sources. That means also that fine American journalists like
> Chris Hedges, one of the best, is cut out, barred from Americans 'cause he happens
> to have a program running on RT (Russian television). You wanna find out what the
> adversary is saying, which is of utmost importance, you can maybe tune into Indian
> state television and find it out or you can read it on Al Jazeera. But the United
> States has imposed constraints on freedom of access information which are
> astonishing. And which, in fact, go beyond what was the case in [post?] Stalin
> Soviet Russia. That's a remarkable fact. It goes well beyond any [length?] who
> dares to break the party line on the dominant issues today -- Ukraine is simply
> demonized, vilified, can't be sent to the gulag it's a free country still but you
> can barely talk. And that has very dangerous implications for the current
> situation and beyond.

Dore called Chomsky's assessment "very well said and I agree with everything he said" 
when it was substantially easily disproven rubbish, the kind of junk I expect Jimmy 
Dore to debunk because the means of debunking it is so trivial (literally visiting a 
website whose domain name is easily guessed such as "rt.com").

There are two main parts to this clip:

Part 1. What I reviewed earlier[1] covered the clip up to "That's a remarkable fact".

Part 2. The part of Chomsky's response starting with "It goes well beyond any length 
who dares to break the party line on the dominant issues today..." is a more sensible 
but undefended point which is separate from the first. But I don't think that these 
restrictions are as unprecedented as Dore's discussion claims. We saw some of this 
during the run-up to the US/UK invasion of Iraq (back when Democracy Now was 
"breaking the party line").

If you take Chomsky (and I suppose Dore) seriously here, it's worth asking yourself 
what, exactly, is the consequence for Americans watching RT's works on VK.com, 
Rumble.com, Odysee.com, or RT.com (all of which are readily available to Americans)? 
As far as I can tell the consequence is that Americans get to see precisely what 
Chomsky claimed Americans can't see.

Chomsky used to have a better take on free speech[2] but he has apparently dropped 
that in favor of echoing establishment views on the COVID narrative.

This is certainly another low point for Chomsky and (for co-signing Chomsky's entire 
clip without exception) a low point for Dore & Mat? as well.



[1] In https://lists.chambana.net/pipermail/peace-discuss/2022-July/053657.html I 
detailed how easy it is to access every source and kind of video Chomsky listed. 
Access to those videos and sources is not an issue for Americans. It's sad that 
YouTube censors on behalf of the US government but don't let yourself believe that 
online video is only YouTube. Most Americans don't believe that. Proof of this is 
easy to see -- many millions of Americans pay to access Disney+ and Netflix.

[2] "Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If 
you?re really in favor of free speech, then you?re in favor of freedom of speech for 
precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you?re not in favor of free speech." 
--Noam Chomsky

From jbn at forestfield.org  Fri Jul 29 17:53:24 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 12:53:24 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] John Pilger interview --
 https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/07/25/ntzd-j25.html
Message-ID: <e43da443-2fad-6826-ec3b-b595f14dcc14@forestfield.org>

A new John Pilger interview from World Socialist Web Site and reprinted by MintPress 
News:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/07/25/ntzd-j25.html
https://www.mintpressnews.com/interview-john-pilger-assange-courageous-embodiment-struggle-oppressive-forces-world/281576/

From r-szoke at illinois.edu  Sun Jul 31 19:47:58 2022
From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 19:47:58 +0000
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Trembling with anticipation?
Message-ID: <CH0PR11MB56895E2C4B1F5B0AE995AC6B8C9B9@CH0PR11MB5689.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

BREAKING NEWS ALERT:
PRESIDENT TRUMP MADE UP HIS MIND ABOUT 2024

Drop everything:

###
This is crazy.  I have never voted for Trump and never expect to.  Are we supposed to be excited that our would-be Fueher may be about to reveal his momentous decision any minute now?

Is anyone else getting this stuff ?

~Ron

#####

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From r-szoke at illinois.edu  Sun Jul 31 19:47:58 2022
From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 19:47:58 +0000
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Trembling with anticipation?
Message-ID: <CH0PR11MB56895E2C4B1F5B0AE995AC6B8C9B9@CH0PR11MB5689.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

BREAKING NEWS ALERT:
PRESIDENT TRUMP MADE UP HIS MIND ABOUT 2024

Drop everything:

###
This is crazy.  I have never voted for Trump and never expect to.  Are we supposed to be excited that our would-be Fueher may be about to reveal his momentous decision any minute now?

Is anyone else getting this stuff ?

~Ron

#####

Donald J. Trump made his final decision about whether or not he?s running for President. We?re rushing to you before he officially makes his announcement with our MOST IMPORTANT poll yet:

If Trump runs for president again, would you vote for him a THIRD time?

YES: I STAND WITH TRUMP

NO: I DON?T SUPPORT TRUMP

Trump could make his announcement at any moment? it could be as soon as TODAY. Before he does, we want to hear from our top supporters -- and you made the cut!

We don?t have much time, so please answer right here and right now:

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