From paulmueth at yahoo.com  Sun May  1 18:27:23 2022
From: paulmueth at yahoo.com (Paul Mueth)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2022 18:27:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fw: What the Rabbi said . . .
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Greets all,
These are my best examples of the institutional power of ultranationalists in post 2014, anyone got others?If you have head of parliament you can block Minsk Normandy solution.?
If you have the head of secret police, we?ll . . .?


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On Thursday, April 28, 2022, 10:13 AM, Paul Mueth <paulmueth at yahoo.com> wrote:


Greets,?




Here are the extreme rightists?that I referred to last night.??Andriy Parubiy, Arsen Avakov

The former was chair of the Rada, parliament for four years.?




The latter was head of secret police for seven years until he was indeed ousted by Zelensky.?

They both embody the institutional power of the ultranationalist right.??




What the Rabbi said . . .?







Criticism of Arsen Avakov

>From Wikipedia?

A number of experts point out that during Avakov's time as Minister of Internal Affairs, the reform of main Ukrainian law enforcement agency fell through.[40] Started out on 7 November 2015 with entering into force of a new law "On the National Police", the former Ukrainian militsiya has simply changed its name and most of its staff remained unchanged.[40]

In November 2014, Ukraine's chief rabbi?Yaakov Bleich?condemned Avakov's appointment of?Azov Battalion?deputy commander?Vadym Troyan?as?Kyiv Oblast?police chief, and demanded that "if the interior minister continues to appoint people of questionable repute and ideologies tainted with fascism and right-wing extremism, the interior minister should be replaced."[41]




He wasn?t for seven years. ?


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From jbn at forestfield.org  Sun May  1 19:42:32 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2022 14:42:32 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Recommended videos for AWARE on the Air,
 News from Neptune, and Labor's World View TV
Message-ID: <47a63f1b-8dc4-5c26-97a6-c8bc72eb60c6@forestfield.org>

Here are the videos I recommended to run during AWARE on the Air, News from Neptune, 
and Labor's World View TV.

As a reminder: If anyone else has anything to run, please feel free to get your video 
pointers to UPTV (UPTV at urbanaillinois.us). I have continued to ask UPTV to prioritize 
AWARE members video pointers over mine for AWARE on the Air, Carl Estabrook & David 
Green's video pointers over mine for News from Neptune, and David Johnson's video 
pointers over mine for Labor's World View TV.

Enjoy.
-J




News from Neptune & AWARE on the Air
==================================================

theAnalysis.news

Who Benefits From a Protracted Ukrainian War? An interview with Patrick
Cockburn.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0Vl9LmBU90U
Transcript: 
https://theanalysis.news/do-russia-and-the-u-s-want-long-term-war-patrick-cockburn/



CGTN

Challenging Western Narratives -- interview with Ben Norton
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pAmnmb1i2-s



Glenn Greenwald

The 1/6 Prosecutions Proceed with Little Attention - Interview with Journalist Julie 
Kelly
https://rumble.com/v11zscy-the-16-prosecutions-proceed-with-little-attention-interview-with-journalist.html
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UKq7YZRQy0Y

WashPost's Doxing of @LibsOfTikTok Reveals Who Corporate Journalists See as Their Targets
https://rumble.com/v11n4sn-taylor-lorenzs-doxxing-of-libsoftiktok-reveals-who-corporate-journalists-se.html
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9cNkaZbpoak



The Grayzone

Reporting from the ground in Donbas
https://youtube.com/watch?v=s-SubcsJRtI



RT

Iraqi refugees: millions displaced since 2003
https://rumble.com/v12mdbv-iraqi-refugees-millions-displaced-since-2003.html

No evidence of mass graves found at site of alleged 'second Bucha'
https://rumble.com/v126kw6-no-evidence-of-mass-graves-found-at-site-of-alleged-second-bucha.html




Labor's World View TV
==================================================

laborvideo

The AFL-CIO CIA Attack and Murder Against Mexico City Ford Workers & El Golpe
https://youtube.com/watch?v=b5E7Db7rYxU

The Israeli Histadrut, Zionism, The AFL-CIO & Imperialism With Carol Lang
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HLtLDS0FbSE

Attacks On NYC MTA Transit Riders, Transit Workers & Capitalism
https://youtube.com/watch?v=X23AJuR8JTw

The AFL-CIO & CIA In South Africa & Jabu Ndlovu With SA Trade Union Organizer David 
Hemson
https://youtube.com/watch?v=s7fN1q0cmdM



More Perfect Union

A Clean Sweep in Virginia: 5 Starbucks Stores Vote to Unionize
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y_8FLYrqjuQ

LEAKED: Starbucks CEO Trashes Unionizing Workers
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7O1lOvZqpGQ

How Tax Prep Companies Blocked A Free Tax Filing System
https://youtube.com/watch?v=T1uKcrjt1fg

Starbucks Reprimands Barista For Wearing Earbuds In Closed Cafe
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Rl_QDJu37tw

From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Sun May  1 22:29:41 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2022 17:29:41 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Disturbing column from Escobar
Message-ID: <99602198-677B-4D8A-965C-E5DC3D6B1CC9@newsfromneptune.com>

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/04/29/empire-of-lies-eager-receive-sarmat-business-card/

From moboct1 at aol.com  Mon May  2 13:59:40 2022
From: moboct1 at aol.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 13:59:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Disturbing column from Escobar
In-Reply-To: <99602198-677B-4D8A-965C-E5DC3D6B1CC9@newsfromneptune.com>
References: <99602198-677B-4D8A-965C-E5DC3D6B1CC9@newsfromneptune.com>
Message-ID: <949302125.1996044.1651499980296@mail.yahoo.com>

"Hmmm....can't locate this page";;;

"Disturbing"? indeed--Pepe another casuallty of censorship...??
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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Mon May  2 17:17:26 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 12:17:26 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Four_reasons_to_distrust_UCSF?=
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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Mon May  2 17:28:11 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 12:28:11 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss]
 chomsky-calls-trump-the-one-western-statesman-with-a-sensible-plan-for-resolving-russia-ukraine-crisis
Message-ID: <38C66BAF-F977-41CF-A2DB-CDC8E17A9770@newsfromneptune.com>

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/chomsky-calls-trump-the-one-western-statesman-with-a-sensible-plan-for-resolving-russia-ukraine-crisis/ar-AAWNIQq

From jbn at forestfield.org  Mon May  2 22:47:57 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 17:47:57 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] strategic-culture.org-hosted webpages might not be
 reachable
In-Reply-To: <99602198-677B-4D8A-965C-E5DC3D6B1CC9@newsfromneptune.com>
References: <99602198-677B-4D8A-965C-E5DC3D6B1CC9@newsfromneptune.com>
Message-ID: <7315c717-a7bd-0c77-d148-2e77725412f1@forestfield.org>

C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote:
> https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/04/29/empire-of-lies-eager-receive-sarmat-business-card/

It looks like the webserver at www.strategic-culture.org (151.236.80.5) is not 
responding to requests now, therefore any URL beginning with 
"https://www.strategic-culture.org" will fail.

It's not clear why this webserver is failing.

According to whois data, the strategic-culture.org domain expires on 2023-06-08, so 
this would not appear to be an unpaid domain registration bill resulting in loss of 
control over the domain name. Perhaps some router in between us and 151.236.80.5 is 
down and thus not routing any of our packets. But the Russian nameserver is 
responding to queries and returning data (hence one can look up the 
www.strategic-culture.org hostname and get the IP address I listed above).

In the meantime, if you'd like to see a recent Pepe Escobar interview, consider watching:

Russia, China, and the Post-Dollar World w/Pepe Escobar
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iin3STk2Ank

which is an interview with The Left Lens (from Black Agenda Report).

From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Wed May  4 15:25:20 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 10:25:20 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?Pope_Francis_Says_NATO_Started_War_in_?=
 =?utf-8?b?VWtyYWluZSBieSDigJhCYXJraW5nIGF0IFB1dGlu4oCZcyBEb29y4oCZ?=
Message-ID: <70213667-2117-4321-B9F2-D121E0B8A8C1@newsfromneptune.com>


https://www.thedailybeast.com/pope-francis-says-nato-started-war-in-ukraine-by-barking-at-putins-door?source=email&via=desktop

Pope Francis Says NATO Started War in Ukraine by ?Barking at Putin?s Door?

The pontiff defended Putin and claimed?without foundation?that it was ?others who created the conflict? in Ukraine.

From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Wed May  4 16:16:05 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 11:16:05 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Views on the war
Message-ID: <2A193451-6B1E-4D88-8A0B-54114CCC455F@newsfromneptune.com>

Noam Chomsky said earlier this week that former President Donald Trump is the ?one Western statesman? who has laid out a ?sensible? proposition to resolve the Russia-Ukraine crisis.

In an in an interview with Thijmen Sprakel on Tuesday, Chomsky said that the proposed solution included ?facilitating negotiations instead of undermining them and moving toward establishing some kind of accommodation in Europe?in which there are no military alliances but just mutual accommodation.?

?He didn?t say it, but it?s something like what George H.W. Bush ? the first Bush, not the second ? proposed in the early 90s, when after the collapse of the Soviet Union, proposed what they called a partnership for peace, which would be open for Europeans generally or Asians as well,? Chomsky continued, going on to stress that in his view, limiting NATO?s expansion and eliminating military alliances in Europe is key.

Trump has resisted condemning Vladimir Putin for his actions, and instead criticized NATO for ?stand[ing] back? from the conflict.

?Emmanuel Macron in his initiatives trying to contact Putin suggested something similar,? Chomsky said, referencing the French president?s efforts to dissuade Russia?s president  from further escalating his country?s invasion of Ukraine.
=================================
Max Blumenthal at MaxBlumenthal

Biden wants $33 billion for Ukraine. That's almost 2x as much as the Dept of Interior's budget, more than 15x as much as the Bureau of Indian Affairs' budget, about the same as the Dept of Energy's budget, and half the State Dept's budget. And most of it will go to arms makers.
=================================
JD Vance @JDVance1, America Firster critic of US involvement in Ukraine, has just won Ohio's GOP primary. 

His opponent will be Tim Ryan, a Bill Kristol-backed Democrat who favors massive arms transfers to Ukraine and to "look at we need to do to China." Ryan is going to run on the war.

Both candidates will push new Cold War escalation w/ China while Tim Ryan plumps for votes from E. European emigres hungry for Ukraine intervention. 

Ryan only registered during the 2020 Dem primary as the Afghan forever war attack dog vs Tulsi Gabbard.

Republican Vance should be supported against Democrat Tim Ryan as Senator from Ohio.
=================================

Pope Francis Says NATO Started War in Ukraine by ?Barking at Putin?s Door? https://www.thedailybeast.com/pope-francis-says-nato-started-war-in-ukraine-by-barking-at-putins-door

[The pope has the better of the argument.  ?CGE]


From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Wed May  4 17:03:10 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 12:03:10 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss]
 pope-says-nato-may-have-provoked-russian-invasion-of-ukraine
Message-ID: <16C70504-6DE1-4F6C-B214-A9E4282D169E@newsfromneptune.com>

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news-2022-05-03/card/pope-says-nato-may-have-provoked-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-E7VAcqXGK8xNoHxJPQFs

From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Wed May  4 19:27:50 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 14:27:50 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] us-nato-dangerously-aim-to-destroy-russias-military
Message-ID: <19F88590-3B0B-4EF9-8B4A-5C45C4073CE2@newsfromneptune.com>

The US is rapidly arming Ukraine and has a new found confidence in the possibility of defeating Russia and not having to compromise on the issue of Ukrainian neutrality. The statements by Biden, Austin, Blinken, and Sullivan, Pelosi's imperial visit to Kyiv, and this latest statement by the Ukrainian defence minister about the present reality of Ukraine's "de facto" NATO membership in NATO all attest to that. I believe that only a protracted stalemate and the inflationary effects of the war on Western public opinion may persuade NATO planners to end the war by giving Russia an assurance of Ukrainian neutrality - on paper, for what it's worth.
 
From today's Asia Times: 

US, NATO dangerously aim to destroy Russia?s military
It is now official US and NATO policy to damage Russia?s armed forces to a degree that it will take a very long time to recover
By FRANK LEDWIDGE
MAY 4, 2022

https://asiatimes.com/2022/05/us-nato-dangerously-aim-to-destroy-russias-military/?mc_cid=99e5d49e1a&mc_eid=8fb953d004
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From rwhelbig at gmail.com  Wed May  4 19:47:03 2022
From: rwhelbig at gmail.com (Roger Helbig)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 12:47:03 -0700
Subject: [Peace-discuss]
 us-nato-dangerously-aim-to-destroy-russias-military
In-Reply-To: <19F88590-3B0B-4EF9-8B4A-5C45C4073CE2@newsfromneptune.com>
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Message-ID: <CALZ0NqUVbQu0DkWELyMVC8rysheW1PRp57PcpKdPi=zxL6ZqwQ@mail.gmail.com>

The original article source has not got the political baggage of Asia Times

https://theconversation.com/ukraine-nato-and-the-us-aim-to-destroy-the-russian-military-it-looks-as-if-they-may-have-the-means-to-do-it-182255

Roger

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 12:28 PM C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> The US is rapidly arming Ukraine and has a new found confidence in the
> possibility of defeating Russia and not having to compromise on the issue
> of Ukrainian neutrality. The statements by Biden, Austin, Blinken, and
> Sullivan, Pelosi's imperial visit to Kyiv, and this latest statement by the
> Ukrainian defence minister about the present reality of Ukraine's "de
> facto" NATO membership in NATO all attest to that. I believe that only a
> protracted stalemate and the inflationary effects of the war on Western
> public opinion may persuade NATO planners to end the war by giving Russia
> an assurance of Ukrainian neutrality - on paper, for what it's worth.
>
> From today's Asia Times:
>
> US, NATO dangerously aim to destroy Russia?s military
> It is now official US and NATO policy to damage Russia?s armed forces to a
> degree that it will take a very long time to recover
> By FRANK LEDWIDGE
> MAY 4, 2022
>
>
> https://asiatimes.com/2022/05/us-nato-dangerously-aim-to-destroy-russias-military/?mc_cid=99e5d49e1a&mc_eid=8fb953d004
> _._,_._,_
> <https://asiatimes.com/2022/05/us-nato-dangerously-aim-to-destroy-russias-military/?mc_cid=99e5d49e1a&mc_eid=8fb953d004_._,_._,_>
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From davidgreen50 at gmail.com  Wed May  4 20:41:31 2022
From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 15:41:31 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Fwd: [marxmail] Will Putin voluntarily
 withdraw? A reply to Ron Jacobs
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A minor but necessary correction: this is a sensible reply by Jacobs to the
"Marxist" imperialist element that is dominant on the "Marxmail" listserv.

DG

On Wed, May 4, 2022, 2:24 PM C. G. Estabrook via Peace <
peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *"Ron Jacobs" <ronj1955 at gmail.com>
> *Subject: **Re: [marxmail] Will Putin voluntarily withdraw? A reply to
> Ron Jacobs*
> *Date: *May 4, 2022 at 1:55:20 PM CDT
> *To: *marxmail at groups.io
> *Reply-To: *marxmail at groups.io
>
> A couple things.  Calling for peace is not selfish.  My opening line,
> which you quote, does not assume any particular order to the events after a
> ceasefire is in place.  There is no magic involved.  If one looks to
> history, they will clearly see that most wars end with a negotiated
> settlement.  This is especially true for those provoked and carried out by
> the United States since 1944.  In 1965, when the US movement against the US
> war on the Vietnamese took a giant step forward, it called for
> negotiations.  The prowar crowd in the government, media, military and
> corporate America said we the movement was dreaming.  So did the cynics in
> the media and population.  Nonetheless, the antiwar organizers of all
> persuasions carried on with their organizing and saw the movement grow
> bigger and bigger.  In 1973, a peace agreement was signed between the US
> and the Vietnamese liberation armies.  This was the result of the conflict
> on the ground, the determination of the Vietnamese people and the
> international.antiwar Movement that existed.  Of course, Washington
> couldn't actually accept the terms of the negotiations and continued to
> fund their disintegrating proxy army based out of what was then called
> Saigon.  The Pentagon also continued bombing raids, covert ops and other
> support until April 30, 1975, when it left in a hurry after the proxy army
> gave up.
> While the situation in Ukraine is a very far cry from the revolutionary
> war for independence fought by the Vietnamese--Ukraine's government is not
> revolutionary or socialist, for starters--my point is that the fact of a
> large, occasionally militant international antiwar movement was an
> important peace in ending that war.  That's the direct lesson.
> Given the important differences between that war and the one between
> Ukraine and Russia, I look for more appropriate historical periods to look
> at when considering the conflict in Ukraine.  Let me suggest Spring 1914.
> Empires are on edge, with one seeing itself as the dominant and only
> empire.  That latter empire rejects compromise and prevents its
> allies/clients from accepting it, too.  The growing intransigence of the
> empires ultimately result in war.  First, among one,two, or three nations,
> then all hell breaks lose.  The socialist movement is at first opposed to
> the war their analysis tells them is coming.  Indeed, they call for an
> international movement against the war.  However, others calling themselves
> socialist fall prey to the fever, approve war funding and conscription and,
> after a few years of the most incredible violence perpetrated on humans by
> other humans, the war ends in the midst of mutinies, revolution and various
> crowns scurrying to keep face.  The socialist champions of that
> international antiwar movement which faltered and then disappeared help
> foment one of those revolutions in Germany and are murdered by order of the
> social democrats in power--many of the same people who abandoned the call
> for peace and jumped on the imperial war wagon.
> The analogy is not perfect, in part because 100 years have passed.  But I
> stick by my position.  We need an international antiwar movement, not a
> cheerleading squad for the arms industry.  Demanding peace is not calling
> for more war.
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From jbn at forestfield.org  Thu May  5 01:45:37 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 20:45:37 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Views on the war
In-Reply-To: <2A193451-6B1E-4D88-8A0B-54114CCC455F@newsfromneptune.com>
References: <2A193451-6B1E-4D88-8A0B-54114CCC455F@newsfromneptune.com>
Message-ID: <9aab7339-ab27-068f-4193-c28c3a4d79a2@forestfield.org>

C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> Noam Chomsky said earlier this week that former President Donald Trump is the ?one
> Western statesman? who has laid out a ?sensible? proposition to resolve the
> Russia-Ukraine crisis.
> 
> In an in an interview with Thijmen Sprakel on Tuesday, Chomsky said that the
> proposed solution included ?facilitating negotiations instead of undermining them
> and moving toward establishing some kind of accommodation in Europe?in which there
> are no military alliances but just mutual accommodation.?
> 
> ?He didn?t say it, but it?s something like what George H.W. Bush ? the first Bush,
> not the second ? proposed in the early 90s, when after the collapse of the Soviet
> Union, proposed what they called a partnership for peace, which would be open for
> Europeans generally or Asians as well,? Chomsky continued, going on to stress that
> in his view, limiting NATO?s expansion and eliminating military alliances in
> Europe is key.


Noam Chomsky also recently said in an interview with "The Young Turks":
> Politics is the daily activism that is teaching people why Trump is one of the,
> fact of the matter, is the most dangerous figure in human history. Literally,
> there has been no one else -- Hitler, anyone else -- who is dedicated to
> destroying the prospects of human life on Earth in the next -- in the short term,
> and that's exactly what he's doing.
Chomsky said this while trying to convince people to vote against Trump.

Source:
https://rumble.com/v13bl4f-050222-3-chomsky-praises-trump-on-ukraine.html
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OVesAq7eQyk

Those are the same Jimmy Dore Show clip which features the above quoted Chomsky clip.


C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> Pope Francis Says NATO Started War in Ukraine by ?Barking at Putin?s Door?
> https://www.thedailybeast.com/pope-francis-says-nato-started-war-in-ukraine-by-barking-at-putins-door
>
>  [The pope has the better of the argument.  ?CGE]

Related:
https://www.rt.com/russia/554166-international-law-military-operation-ukraine/ -- 
Daniel Kovalik: Why Russia's intervention in Ukraine is legal under international law

From moboct1 at aol.com  Thu May  5 13:50:47 2022
From: moboct1 at aol.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 13:50:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Views on the war
In-Reply-To: <9aab7339-ab27-068f-4193-c28c3a4d79a2@forestfield.org>
References: <2A193451-6B1E-4D88-8A0B-54114CCC455F@newsfromneptune.com>
 <9aab7339-ab27-068f-4193-c28c3a4d79a2@forestfield.org>
Message-ID: <818224111.2728982.1651758647119@mail.yahoo.com>


YEAH, BUT... Trump can't be trusted (any more than Biden or other politicians); and G. H. W. Bush is the one who introduced the "NEW WORLD ORDER" after crowing about being victorious in Iraq War #1.
Midge??

-----Original?Message-----..
From: J.B. Nicholson via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Sent: Wed, May 4, 2022 8:46 pm
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Views on the war

C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> Noam Chomsky said earlier this week that former President Donald Trump is the ?one
> Western statesman? who has laid out a ?sensible? proposition to resolve the
> Russia-Ukraine crisis.
> 
> In an in an interview with Thijmen Sprakel on Tuesday, Chomsky said that the
> proposed solution included ?facilitating negotiations instead of undermining them
> and moving toward establishing some kind of accommodation in Europe?in which there
> are no military alliances but just mutual accommodation.?
> 
> ?He didn?t say it, but it?s something like what George H.W. Bush ? the first Bush,
> not the second ? proposed in the early 90s, when after the collapse of the Soviet
> Union, proposed what they called a partnership for peace, which would be open for
> Europeans generally or Asians as well,? Chomsky continued, going on to stress that
> in his view, limiting NATO?s expansion and eliminating military alliances in
> Europe is key.


Noam Chomsky also recently said in an interview with "The Young Turks":
> Politics is the daily activism that is teaching people why Trump is one of the,
> fact of the matter, is the most dangerous figure in human history. Literally,
> there has been no one else -- Hitler, anyone else -- who is dedicated to
> destroying the prospects of human life on Earth in the next -- in the short term,
> and that's exactly what he's doing.
Chomsky said this while trying to convince people to vote against Trump.

Source:
https://rumble.com/v13bl4f-050222-3-chomsky-praises-trump-on-ukraine.html
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OVesAq7eQyk

Those are the same Jimmy Dore Show clip which features the above quoted Chomsky clip.


C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> Pope Francis Says NATO Started War in Ukraine by ?Barking at Putin?s Door?
> https://www.thedailybeast.com/pope-francis-says-nato-started-war-in-ukraine-by-barking-at-putins-door
>
>? [The pope has the better of the argument.? ?CGE]

Related:
https://www.rt.com/russia/554166-international-law-military-operation-ukraine/ -- 
Daniel Kovalik: Why Russia's intervention in Ukraine is legal under international law
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From paulmueth at yahoo.com  Thu May  5 15:26:45 2022
From: paulmueth at yahoo.com (Paul Mueth)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 15:26:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Views on the war
In-Reply-To: <818224111.2728982.1651758647119@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2A193451-6B1E-4D88-8A0B-54114CCC455F@newsfromneptune.com>
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 <818224111.2728982.1651758647119@mail.yahoo.com>
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Under Trump aid to Ukraine made it de facto part of NATO, Mearsheimer?s assessment. Trump?s ?stance? on NATO?was as substantial as anything he stands for. , . .?


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On Thursday, May 5, 2022, 8:51 AM, Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:


YEAH, BUT... Trump can't be trusted (any more than Biden or other politicians); and G. H. W. Bush is the one who introduced the "NEW WORLD ORDER" after crowing about being victorious in Iraq War #1.
Midge??

-----Original?Message-----..
From: J.B. Nicholson via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Sent: Wed, May 4, 2022 8:46 pm
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Views on the war

C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> Noam Chomsky said earlier this week that former President Donald Trump is the ?one
> Western statesman? who has laid out a ?sensible? proposition to resolve the
> Russia-Ukraine crisis.
> 
> In an in an interview with Thijmen Sprakel on Tuesday, Chomsky said that the
> proposed solution included ?facilitating negotiations instead of undermining them
> and moving toward establishing some kind of accommodation in Europe?in which there
> are no military alliances but just mutual accommodation.?
> 
> ?He didn?t say it, but it?s something like what George H.W. Bush ? the first Bush,
> not the second ? proposed in the early 90s, when after the collapse of the Soviet
> Union, proposed what they called a partnership for peace, which would be open for
> Europeans generally or Asians as well,? Chomsky continued, going on to stress that
> in his view, limiting NATO?s expansion and eliminating military alliances in
> Europe is key.


Noam Chomsky also recently said in an interview with "The Young Turks":
> Politics is the daily activism that is teaching people why Trump is one of the,
> fact of the matter, is the most dangerous figure in human history. Literally,
> there has been no one else -- Hitler, anyone else -- who is dedicated to
> destroying the prospects of human life on Earth in the next -- in the short term,
> and that's exactly what he's doing.
Chomsky said this while trying to convince people to vote against Trump.

Source:
https://rumble.com/v13bl4f-050222-3-chomsky-praises-trump-on-ukraine.html
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OVesAq7eQyk

Those are the same Jimmy Dore Show clip which features the above quoted Chomsky clip.


C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> Pope Francis Says NATO Started War in Ukraine by ?Barking at Putin?s Door?
> https://www.thedailybeast.com/pope-francis-says-nato-started-war-in-ukraine-by-barking-at-putins-door
>
>? [The pope has the better of the argument.? ?CGE]

Related:
https://www.rt.com/russia/554166-international-law-military-operation-ukraine/ -- 
Daniel Kovalik: Why Russia's intervention in Ukraine is legal under international law
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From r-szoke at illinois.edu  Thu May  5 19:33:57 2022
From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 19:33:57 +0000
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Reminder of Notable Days
Message-ID: <CH0PR11MB5689361A8F9EC56AE0D85DF08CC29@CH0PR11MB5689.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>


Cinco de Mayo (1862), Mexican patriotic celebration, May 5th  
Karl Marx (1818-1883), political economist, May 5th
Sigmund Freud (1856-1939), neurologist & founder of psychoanalysis, May 6th
David Hume (1711-1776), Scottish philosopher & historian, May 7th

From r-szoke at illinois.edu  Thu May  5 19:33:57 2022
From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 19:33:57 +0000
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Reminder of Notable Days
Message-ID: <CH0PR11MB5689361A8F9EC56AE0D85DF08CC29@CH0PR11MB5689.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>


Cinco de Mayo (1862), Mexican patriotic celebration, May 5th  
Karl Marx (1818-1883), political economist, May 5th
Sigmund Freud (1856-1939), neurologist & founder of psychoanalysis, May 6th
David Hume (1711-1776), Scottish philosopher & historian, May 7th

From paulmueth at yahoo.com  Thu May  5 22:34:53 2022
From: paulmueth at yahoo.com (Paul Mueth)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 22:34:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Mearsheimer on PBS NewsHour
References: <1255699044.64783.1651790093640.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1255699044.64783.1651790093640@mail.yahoo.com>

No time apparently?for him to expound on his more basic critique of US NATO policy


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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Fri May  6 20:24:24 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2022 15:24:24 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss]
 us-pushes-fake-stories-to-goad-russia-into-escalation
Message-ID: <D21BA86D-D0CE-412A-A509-A21416E5EF0F@newsfromneptune.com>

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/us-pushes-fake-stories-to-goad-russia-into-escalation.html#more

From jbn at forestfield.org  Sat May  7 00:19:03 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2022 19:19:03 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Recommended videos for AWARE on the Air,
 News from Neptune, and Labor's World View TV
Message-ID: <4bb18400-579c-56ab-41a9-4f55f1616052@forestfield.org>

Here are the videos I recommended to run during AWARE on the Air, News from Neptune, 
and Labor's World View TV.

As a reminder: If anyone else has anything to run, please feel free to get your video 
pointers to UPTV (UPTV at urbanaillinois.us). I have continued to ask UPTV to prioritize 
AWARE members video pointers over mine for AWARE on the Air, Carl Estabrook & David 
Green's video pointers over mine for News from Neptune, and David Johnson's video 
pointers over mine for Labor's World View TV.

Enjoy.
-J

News from Neptune & AWARE on the Air
==================================================

The Left Lens (Black Agenda Report)

Russia, China, and the Post-Dollar World w/Pepe Escobar
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iin3STk2Ank


The Socialist Program with Brian Becker (BreakThrough News)

Escalation in Ukraine: The Nuclear War Danger is Real
https://youtube.com/watch?v=W2QjDGvQU2Y


Glenn Greenwald

Biden Wants $33 Billion More For the War in Ukraine. Which Americans Benefit?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pChC1JsvJAM
https://rumble.com/v13fkbf-biden-wants-33-billion-more-for-the-war-in-ukraine.-which-americans-benefit.html

The Extremist 1/6 Prosecutions Proceed with Little Attention - Interview with 
Journalist Julie Kelly
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UKq7YZRQy0Y
https://rumble.com/v11zscy-the-16-prosecutions-proceed-with-little-attention-interview-with-journalist.html


MintPressNews

MintPress New Livestream: Suspended For Revealing COVID Death Inflation
https://youtube.com/watch?v=i761gMgEMnQ

Jerusalem: Al-Aqsa In The Snipers Scope w/ Lowkey & Dr. Ramzy Baroud
https://youtube.com/watch?v=api-yVqNGEw


Moderate Rebels (Grayzone)

Economist Michael Hudson explains inflation crisis and Fed's secretive $4.5 trillion 
bank bailout
https://youtube.com/watch?v=m7eAbbVMr_4

Julian Assange's fianc?e Stella Moris discusses CIA threats and US extradition dangers
https://youtube.com/watch?v=W4QNb9kNtxk


Consortium News

Lowkey with Mint Press News & Consortium News Editors on PayPal Ban
https://youtube.com/watch?v=myOnvRto75c




Labor's World View TV
==================================================


Status Coup News

Interview with Amazon Labor Union Attorney: "We Need the Support of the Federal 
Government"
https://youtube.com/watch?v=A1y2-UGBOxo

CEOs Cry THEY are Under Attack Amidst Housing Crisis, Skyrocketing Inflation
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hDGbQlOhMDA


More Perfect Union

Minor League Baseball Players EXPLOITED By Billionaire Owners
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KNDGvIFVki4

Inside The Second Staten Island Amazon Union Election
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tvteGR1Vc3I

Howard Schultz Illegally Threatens To Withhold Benefits From Unionizing Workers
https://youtube.com/watch?v=sRoTS1ndaY0

Amazon Fired A Pro-Union Worker. Workers Are Fighting Back
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EE4HWmCAyu4


laborvideo

USW 5 Chevron Richmond Refinery Strike Continues Report By USW 5 President BK White
https://youtube.com/watch?v=a539XtLez6Y

MayDay South Africa, The Clover Dairy Strike, Privatization & Imperialism With GIWUSA 
Memetlwe Sebei
https://youtube.com/watch?v=C8O7-lu804s

East Bay Unionists Oppose Port Privatization of Howard Terminal For Billionaire GAP 
A's Stadium
https://youtube.com/watch?v=X7BOde5wq_E

Shut It Down! OEA Strikes & ILWU Shuts Docks In Fight Against Privatization
https://youtube.com/watch?v=a4ozf6qiQSw

From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Sun May  8 01:51:52 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Sat, 7 May 2022 20:51:52 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Ukraine Alone Makes Biden The Worst US
 President In A Long Time
References: <20220508004343.3.efd5e7ce08bd1fa0@mg2.substack.com>
Message-ID: <58CEA25C-F833-4079-AE01-30F06C9EB467@newsfromneptune.com>



> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Caitlin Johnstone from Caitlin?s Newsletter <caitlinjohnstone at substack.com>
> Subject: Ukraine Alone Makes Biden The Worst US President In A Long Time
> Date: May 7, 2022 at 7:43:43 PM CDT
> To: cgestabrook at gmail.com
> Reply-To: Caitlin Johnstone from Caitlin?s Newsletter <reply+w1w3r&692a&&396cac75379af8cda33c0885288ef84daa3dc39a5a94a2ba1eeb8544e744af55 at mg1.substack.com>
> 
> 
> Ukraine Alone Makes Biden The Worst US President In A Long Time <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxdkluvojAQxz-NvGF6oVweeDjrJdFdJbqu5_hEShmgAi2Bogc__VZ92k3aTmbmPzNJfyO4gVL3U9zpwTjPJzVTB7GC-9CAMdA74wB9KvOYRNgPiZPHXo5DFjpySIseoOWyiU0_gtONWSMFN1Krpz4kmHhOFRce94tAEBb4JMoKDjgkReEBYjjDCMN7Kh9zCUpADDfoJ63AaeLKmG6Y0Y8ZWdsjuDSNVFddqcFYwXwYs8FwUc-Fbm2-s3esey4VuLyxArflNQxuJnNQrqnAvet-MDO6NroGNaNLmLZYkPP0RZp6c9VTclqRZLkZNurHTdBjwT8PMrn-eSTLHU5OAv9abLvL1zO2IvvTiu0fH2T32A2btnmIaePbOnyRyNtdV9N-8eyzt_4rbvsdjGjP1YUeu4x4sjjM1yCThSBl5QM7BtnvaySOzeeBri_s5_H77Lb37PSd3JLtSTsyJogQxFCIkEc9OqdzKHIGgQAUZjkuOJp5qC3JP7_i9LEowbpZr3VtBeWT1itjYaXWtqOSZkpB8ayB_M3RvJfhRTYtQUFvlyRPuYmxz3AUIJ_SIMJvbhY0oyFlUcAcOzrXtkrF_7P6C8NV0cQ>
>  <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxNkE1uxCAMhU8z7Brxm8CCRTe9RkTAydDJQAROq9y-ZFJVlZCNhfHz97xDWHI57JYrkjOMeGxgE3zXFRChkL1CGWOw3LBecxKsDEwrTWId5wLwdHG1WHYg2z6t0TuMOZ39mjMuyb1lAUHMlEoFmhswWmigEibO2GBmeam6PURIHix8QTlyArLaO-JWb-L9xj_aqftU0flH5_OzlVvJc1yh3ZgcBtNz_eZdxDWmt898TxXPGdFyyjlVVDd5IUUnOpiDgsED1VNgs6M3SZ8L7_5PJ8X6BVo5lZwfrWE5IV8vjXFs-bmniMcIyU0rhAsfLw9fhowLJCjN2zA6tKxXzAy0F2Iw7MJt_iihhTKDIk065PYr2V-Av_1_AFENjC0>	
> Caitlin Johnstone <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxNkE1uxCAMhU8z7Brxm8CCRTe9RkTAydDJQAROq9y-ZFJVlZCNhfHz97xDWHI57JYrkjOMeGxgE3zXFRChkL1CGWOw3LBecxKsDEwrTWId5wLwdHG1WHYg2z6t0TuMOZ39mjMuyb1lAUHMlEoFmhswWmigEibO2GBmeam6PURIHix8QTlyArLaO-JWb-L9xj_aqftU0flH5_OzlVvJc1yh3ZgcBtNz_eZdxDWmt898TxXPGdFyyjlVVDd5IUUnOpiDgsED1VNgs6M3SZ8L7_5PJ8X6BVo5lZwfrWE5IV8vjXFs-bmniMcIyU0rhAsfLw9fhowLJCjN2zA6tKxXzAy0F2Iw7MJt_iihhTKDIk065PYr2V-Av_1_AFENjC0>
> May 8	 <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxdUsmuozAQ_Jpwe5EXIOTgw0yWN7wJg5JH1gsydgMOq8AkIl8_TnKakaxq2V3ublW14BqyphtZ2_TaekKsxxZYDfe-BK2hs4YeulhJRubY9YglmS2x53iW6uO0A6i4KpnuBrDaISmV4Fo19ZPvEUxsK2dUEJcAmru2kKk7S3FCPI4RQdTzEkjouysfpIJaAIMbdGNTg1WyXOu2n9AfE7I2R3ClS1Vfm7zutSFM-yHpNRfFVDSVyfNWGbxhA8-KJrxm--iAi-dME7rWTQEmLmH8woIcxhMpC__ajGG0IuHS7_36503QXcqPWxVe949wGeAwEniz-Bovx_VVfpa3RPmuP_yW7cLwqzKXC98NojMOooIGy_MjGO-Kn_48TF0lfh3UJsrGIPKRr-5K0IN6vVeH_Ex3bUJslW6nh_Hzo9_LW_u9v562j-1ll-8vx52zatPie9NfYh6v3NQNS5VZihFECHKQh5BNbTqlU0ilAzMByEskTjma2KjKyD_yWB0TGZhr0jVNYQjZU5pXxrgWm1gNtdJjDDVPSpBvQ_V7K14yxhnU0JltkTHXDLsOns-QS-lsjt8GGscd6lFnPnMs01o25lfN_jftLy_-1cE>	 <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxdUk2P2yAQ_TXxzZEBfx44bPMhJW1iJU2zm5OF8dgmscEyOLvOry9O2kMrAdIMb97AvMeZgUr1I-2UNs50ZGbsgEr41A0YA70zaOgzUVCcoDDGTkH9AsVB7AidlT1Ay0RDTT-A0w15IzgzQskJH2OEfaemZR6SCEiZJMgPSOwBCW15iREv8oij5NWVDYUAyYHCHfpRSXAaWhvT6Rl5m-G1XZwJ0wh5VbXUxgLmesi1Yfw256q1953dw61nQoLLGgtwW3YD7eaiAOmaGtxP1WszMam2BWks9dqoG8gZWcK4RRyfxw_c3DZXNaanFU6XG72R3-6cHEv2fhDp9dcjXe5QeuLox2LbXT6m3ArvT6tg_3jDu8dOb9rmwcdNaOvQRXj-7roa94uJZ2_jZ97yHQxvz_WFHLsc-6I8zNcg0gXHVR1CcIzyn9eEH5v3A1lfgu_Hr7Pbfuanr_Sebk9qhsPBtJlWQ8_BvvzvFP7kWyjE0E4_moRxBMUexl7gxZ7nE5_MyRzKIoCIgxfnBSqZN_O9tsL_TNPpKa_Ahnmv1M0CqonseWNFzqb5DVKYMQPJ8gaKl_7mZaJn46wCCb01V5ExQ1EYoCTyQkKiBL30tgaxZiBBEgWObV0oWyXp_xr_BhvI5YY>	 <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxdUsuumzAU_BrYEYENBBYs2rxuoqRZ3DS56Qb5cQIOYKe2uRH5-pqkldpKtqUzHvvozAwjFiqlh-KmjPXHo7TDDQoJd9OCtaD93oAuBS9QHqUZ8nkR8yhLMl-Y8qIBOiLawuoe_FtPW8GIFUqO_AxFKPbr4jKFlDFOkzS5ZDRNcMgoIgAkoUmUY_rqSnouQDIo4BP0oCT4bVFbezMe_uKhpVuMCNsKeVW1NNYRJqanxhLWTJjq3P3N7b7RREgISOsIQUcaMAEVHGRgawjuShvr4WVvu9KoXjPw8PzPLx5KR7wDLvrO4c_BfoNMSQvSjuyaaHAoYeOYfwFWNTDWMGwiho7DB2qb9VUN-8MC7edrs-7ams_W6e5wjnaHBu_m58duuAvy8e3heIK9HcX2UA27wzpci7tg-Cie-Cp_8Fk0_Dgtr3zVflKxySf57pw8aHB6r8rNbBrF7efP7bx8W-TlIuPn2-r0Xs_3uP963H73RYFChMIkzMIwxjGe4AlceAJTBmFGeXQhoReHXYX-0dPXBavAlVQr1ThCNcrxvHE2O0G6rpfCDiVIQlvgrwTYV4ye0pUVSNAuXrwktohS5_U0TDGe5tHLcReRBGc4yaeJ71pz5V7J4n-XfwF5xegy>
>  <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJw1UsuO5CAM_JrOLRFvkgOH0UrzG4iHk2Y6gSyQ6en9-iWdXQnZJdu4LJedqbCk_FJ7KrU7ja6vHVSEZ1mhVsjdUSDr4BWZsBhJ5xXzeORjF4qeM8BmwqpqPqDbD7sGZ2pI8awfCSasuytEyUQc88IJzMEDssJZMhM6z8gLhC9Wc_gA0YGCb8ivFKFb1b3Wvdzox418tlcOW6pxD-fj4NLWImEzCzQ_Q3X35p8aMy5u5JfTa9hCbWhujWtq4PcF6MeSkj8Tq95zWjKUEr6hxUsF2FuTi5Twk5afxM3Ywz2g5XMPiFvrRtZbY2jPqIR-4njsjbeUWJByGtlQ6GA28ydF8yzXqK3HtZ03fM9d3lAaQ4R1rp-wlz1jDPVGGNELjyRB8zRKZ_WI0A-ndPjaYemCIogQxFGLMsroQAeYPQfpAI3W49mgG0PbQob_CztH6LJyjbMam1N6tILl1O2daYPp5rcjhvrSEI1dwV-K1uss3hrrBSLkdi5em6qw4HiSSFAqp38KNsk5HSmfJO8atU_tV1TOhLqG-JXusdQm618VpMzN>	
> Listen to a reading of this article: <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkUGOwyAMRU9TdlRAQkMXLGYz14gccCjTBCIwU_X2Q6aSBbL5XzbPDghDLm975ErsPGZ6H2gTvuqGRFhYq1jm6K26y5tRzNvRS6MNi3VeC-IOcbNUGrKjLVt0QDGnU2-UVCN7WDDCLaAFeGFW7UAYreVtgtUpJbWfPl2h-YjJocVfLO-ckG32QXTUy_B1Ud89am7Juy03f3V574WQYwpzyaFhz9qzQEzIYetmvsMTK1-ix8TpgfyVSyXeKj8K1rNKPCYOvIsDp7gji1YJpYQWRohxGIfrcMXVa5wcCrN4uYK4jGIP6lrbUgnc8xyDFesC9nQpOT-7IJw8_l86jrnfe0uR3jMmWDb0H1L0wf3Pbg6YsPQ1-BnIypuW90nchmG6yw-ZjlIPZtD3SbPe2ufuStZBpC2mn_xIlfqP_wDNhJ5c>
> 	
> Ukraine Alone Makes Biden The Worst US President In A Long Time by Going Rogue With Caitlin Johnstone
> Going Rogue With Caitlin Johnstone
>  <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkUGOwyAMRU9TdlRAQkMXLGYz14gccCjTBCIwU_X2Q6aSBbL5XzbPDghDLm975ErsPGZ6H2gTvuqGRFhYq1jm6K26y5tRzNvRS6MNi3VeC-IOcbNUGrKjLVt0QDGnU2-UVCN7WDDCLaAFeGFW7UAYreVtgtUpJbWfPl2h-YjJocVfLO-ckG32QXTUy_B1Ud89am7Juy03f3V574WQYwpzyaFhz9qzQEzIYetmvsMTK1-ix8TpgfyVSyXeKj8K1rNKPCYOvIsDp7gji1YJpYQWRohxGIfrcMXVa5wcCrN4uYK4jGIP6lrbUgnc8xyDFesC9nQpOT-7IJw8_l86jrnfe0uR3jMmWDb0H1L0wf3Pbg6YsPQ1-BnIypuW90nchmG6yw-ZjlIPZtD3SbPe2ufuStZBpC2mn_xIlfqP_wDNhJ5c>?
> 
> Antiwar libertarian hero Scott Horton has a viral tweet <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMGOhCAMhp9mOE6ggOKBw172NQxCVXYdMFB34tsvjgkpFFr-_p93hEsup91zJXaFkc4dbcJ33ZAICzsqljEGC4PoDLBgVRBGGxbrOBfEl4ubpXIg249pi95RzOmqNyBAsdV6qdVguqAnmHzv_SyNUmIOJgTfSz3cqu4IEZNHi39YzpyQbXYl2utDfj3guy16x2uep8-vllWfidZcKKe65vd1Q46O2g5CA4BREgz03QAge86iBQ7ANTecK6nkUz5xDhp7j9xMQcyOPxR_LfCsx9R-8r-XDivWL9jSqeT82wqWy-3npZkd2_46UqRzxOSmDcPNgW6YHzLjgglLgxxGR1Z0Wgw976TsB3H7bqC0NA1Dr1mTDrl1JetdpC2mn7ym2hziP1BZjpY> going around which reads simply, "Biden's refusal to attempt to negotiate an end to the war in Ukraine is the greatest scandal in American political history."
> 
> Kind of smacks you in the face, doesn't it? I've never seen anyone put it quite like that before, but if you think about it, how could it not be true?
> 
> It's just a simple fact that the Biden administration is actually hindering?diplomatic efforts <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMtuxCAMRb9m2CXikQcsWHTT34gIOAmdBCJwWs3f15mR0PXCBh-OdwhrLi975orsjglfJ9gEf3UHRCjsqlCmGKw0YtCSBdsFoXvNYp2WAnC4uFssF7DzmvfoHcac7nkthezYZscgjNBcjIvWnVJGeyOMU50eNIx6mD9b3RUiJA8WfqG8cgK22w3xrA_19ZDfdArUM6ca5x0qErYvbsE2l5V6kktJhXd3GIpYG9yguWqzxRSgxLQ2x-W3JgEECE2I554PYvUNLEsuWOkSi_Z-iPdcc96pTrWqhSX0MHrgeg5icfzR8WOVbb1mgvDP1ueDFevXm2kuOT9pYL2dvDukZKJ6XCnia4LkCD58bOFH-dvftEKCQn8Kk0Mrhl6YkQ9KjUZ87JDOXmnVm7FntDoQekzWu4h7TD95SxVJ2T9PFJwV> to negotiate an end to this war <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxdkUuO7CAMRVdTzBLxyYcaMHiTt43IASdFF4EInI6y-yZds5bQvbKwuObYAuGa8mX2VIjdMtG1o4l4loBEmNlRME_eGfkUg5bMmc4J3Wvmy7RkxA18MJQPZPsxB2-BfIp3v5ZCduxl5oWP0nFchqFTXOiFi0F1swIcuB6V-6TC4TxGiwa_MV8pIgvmRbSXh_r3kP_rOc-zLRBSbG3aai25lNV4d4uuApH8Cbn5Tt5iaSyE0CwpN87vIW1gr8bH5nhn8BGbmKj5Ogo1J8KeYvnr0w6ZIub6LvPmzuI915x3qlOtanFxPY4WuZ6dWIA_Or6tsi3HXAjs-x6RZWNXrOWcU3rXhvVG9XtTSU3VtyN6uiaMMAd0H4j02cQv1mnFOkHdkJuAjBh68Rz5oNT4FB9olXKvtOqfY89qtKu_9NFY8BR8_EqvWKiS_AEjgqWN>, and that it has refused <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkE1uwyAQhU8TdrH4tfGCRTe9hoVh7NA4YMG4lW_fcSKhNwIe84YveIS11NPtpSG7ZMJzB5fhr22ACJUdDeqUopOj6K1k0ekorLEstWmpAC-fNof1ALYf85aCx1Ty5bdSSM0eTo-LNsHKXttRqEX03gL3g4mj16AW_Un1R0yQAzj4hXqWDGxzD8S93dTXTX7TwgekTAMF2LEL5UVHkktJhSsSYUiOZ_Upw70erSV___P13go1hLRmPO-Z_orpPWEjN0vu6sANt5xrpVWnOliigSEAt3MUi-c3zV-r7NoxN_TheQWz6sIKtJ1rKU8yrBeD9w0hmKi-jpzwnCD7eYP4oYMfxG9e0woZKqGPk0cneiPGgfdKDaP40CB8RlllxsEwio6FXmUXfMIt5Z_yyA0J0T8-35cb> to provide Ukraine with any kind of diplomatic negotiating power regarding the possible rollback of sanctions and other US measures to help secure peace. Washington's top diplomats have consistently been conspicuously absent <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlUctuhDAM_JrNLSgPWOCQQy_9DRSIAXchQYnpir-v6UrWWHZGGXs8eYIl5csdqZC4YaDrABfhXTYggizOAnnA4Eyvn50RwdVBd00nsAxzBtg9bo7yCeI4xw0nT5jize-MNrVYnTf66Wvd942eOXTNBYy9GRvoOqjbj6o_A0KcwMEv5CtFEJtbiY7ysF8P881xj1T5SPj2uZrSzi2jjOGkLINWDLSCPIvEIgvhtsmYSFK-MC4y4LGl3U-XfCOt8jgJo6TExHTIGZeVbhb3zlf2GIF_E-huBdWoTqna1rayFcyhgXYC1Y1Bz149arUvpirnWMhPr3swkd20AJdjTunFhOX26P-FLRo472dEugaIftwgfNyjzwn-_RwWiJD5NGHw5PSz0X2rnta2vf64xfY2trNN3zaCpQMvhtFNHmnD-JPWyFtF-AP-EaJR> from any kind of dialogue with their counterparts in Moscow. 
> 
> Statements from the administration <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkUluxCAQRU_T7GwxGEwvWGSTa1gMZTdpGywokvTtg9MS_GL4VYUe3iJsubzMmSuSSxZ8nWAS_NQdEKGQVqEsMRh-Z0pzEswUmJaaxLqsBeCwcTdYGpCzuT16izGny6854xN5GBW4ZrNT0nnvlFBMSue4UzysgXOt3l1tCxGSBwPfUF45AdnNA_GsN_Fx4599QIhX6dGnPvPRTzjlvAc6dWGyy5n37vG1L9uz2JhgKK3WaIezZCzWI4Thx5ah1QFaySfYNOR1jT7a_cqKKcDv-MBjJ9Fc5amkmtJJTGIUI6xBwuyBahfYaultosfGx9pcReuf16tIMX6DvnUl52c3bBef_5uOZ-nxaCnia4Fk3Q7hTQ7f-P9ZLhskKP1bwmLRMCXZfaZKiPnO3qQ6Wim0kPdZkt465J6VjLcR95i-8iNV7Pj-APwVoWQ> in fact indicate that they expect this war to drag on for a long time <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkc2OxCAIgJ9mvNmo_bMHD3vZ12io0o47HW0Ut-nbr91JDAiCwIcFwi2myxwxE7vFTNeBJuCZdyTCxErGNHtn1CQHrZgznZO618zneU2Ib_C7oVSQHWXZvQXyMdzxWknVsafpoZ1AConjYKcJlNJSL5Md1Ors4sb1UxWK8xgsGvzFdMWAbDdPoiM_2q-H-q7nPM8mYakt5cbG9-2JaXdVY0nxwHoJQJFnuDJPCO7iuRxHTMRfl__lJyQOG_iQiaeSswdOTyBuY9kd36G6L4SUuRJKcdFxpeuXzJvbFr3QQnRt1zZtg6vrcbQo9OLkCuLRifemmlyWTGBfd3csGbthNZcU46sGbDen_5eKaa76XYKna8YAy47uQ5A-a_hnOm8YMNX1uBnIyKGX0yiGth0n-SFWEfetbvtp7Fkt7WLNCsaCp92Hn_isc1aMfxKUpTs>, making it abundantly clear that a swift end to minimize the death and destruction is not just uninteresting but undesirable for the US empire.
> 
> 
> Scott Horton 
> @scotthortonshow
> Biden's refusal to attempt to negotiate an end to the war in Ukraine is the greatest scandal in American political history.
>  <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMGOhCAMhp9mOE6ggOKBw172NQxCVXYdMFB34tsvjgkpFFr-_p93hEsup91zJXaFkc4dbcJ33ZAICzsqljEGC4PoDLBgVRBGGxbrOBfEl4ubpXIg249pi95RzOmqNyBAsdV6qdVguqAnmHzv_SyNUmIOJgTfSz3cqu4IEZNHi39YzpyQbXYl2utDfj3guy16x2uep8-vllWfidZcKKe65vd1Q46O2g5CA4BREgz03QAge86iBQ7ANTecK6nkUz5xDhp7j9xMQcyOPxR_LfCsx9R-8r-XDivWL9jSqeT82wqWy-3npZkd2_46UqRzxOSmDcPNgW6YHzLjgglLgxxGR1Z0Wgw976TsB3H7bqC0NA1Dr1mTDrl1JetdpC2mn7ym2hziP1BZjpY>May 5th 2022
> 
> 1,766 Retweets8,558 Likes
>  <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMGOhCAMhp9mOE6ggOKBw172NQxCVXYdMFB34tsvjgkpFFr-_p93hEsup91zJXaFkc4dbcJ33ZAICzsqljEGC4PoDLBgVRBGGxbrOBfEl4ubpXIg249pi95RzOmqNyBAsdV6qdVguqAnmHzv_SyNUmIOJgTfSz3cqu4IEZNHi39YzpyQbXYl2utDfj3guy16x2uep8-vllWfidZcKKe65vd1Q46O2g5CA4BREgz03QAge86iBQ7ANTecK6nkUz5xDhp7j9xMQcyOPxR_LfCsx9R-8r-XDivWL9jSqeT82wqWy-3npZkd2_46UqRzxOSmDcPNgW6YHzLjgglLgxxGR1Z0Wgw976TsB3H7bqC0NA1Dr1mTDrl1JetdpC2mn7ym2hziP1BZjpY>
> And this isn't just another war. This is a proxy war being waged by one of the world's two top nuclear forces against the world's other top nuclear force. This is more serious than Iraq. It is more serious than Vietnam. It is more serious than any US war that has happened in the lifetime of anyone likely to be reading these words, because Russia has increasingly valid reasons to believe its very existence as a nation is being threatened. This is therefore a war that could very easily result in the death of everyone on earth <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxdkNFuhCAQRb9medMgqLAPPDRp9jcMwqzSKhgcavz7jrtPbcJAyNzhco-zCFPKp9nSjuzaBjw3MBGOfQFEyKzskIfgjbg3vRbMm9Y3utMs7MMzA6w2LAZzAbaVcQnOYkjx0mvRiJbNRl1zjnPFeaMaobXkmivVjb4VTvT929UWHyA6MPAD-UwR2GJmxG2_yY-beNByNuAS4lea444kqPcy7mjdd-3SSv2NCmeo5jJBNdmtGgEPgFjN6agoQ0iFHntQfR4sGMGF4B19hbeylbWs4ek7UA64Hn3ztPzW8nUSf1xYNm4Cuo45pW8STFf6V4fCD3SuJQY8B4h2XMC_ueAb7ovUMEGETND9YNE0fdfcFe-lJEhvDgSuk1p2d9UxsvaJpqL5n_0XvL6VPQ>.
> 
> The US Secretary of "Defense" has openly said <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMtuxCAMRb9mWEY8E7JgMZtuq6ofEBFwMnQSiMC0yt-XmUiWH7Ktq3OdRVhTPs2RCpJXmvA8wET4KxsgQia1QJ6CN3xkvebEG-mZVpqEMi0ZYLdhM5grkKPOW3AWQ4qve80Zl-RhqFyknoUdndZ2EW4ZBr04PjCluQTpL1VbfYDowMAv5DNFIJt5IB7lJu43_tHiTBVrN0Nro_yKnyWc_vtOguGUc6qoplQKKTrRweIVDA6onj1bLL1Juq-8K3UuaN2zc2kn2bgV2jjnlJ7tYH1xvDcNY2p1rzHgOUG08wb-IsTLpjfztEKE3Ozzk0XDesXGgfZCDCO7iJoFSmihxkGRJu1T-4rG2YBbiD_pEQs2zH-NvYLd> that America's goal is to "weaken" Russia in this war. Biden himself has made statements which can only be interpreted <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkEGOhCAQRU_T7DQIorhgMZu5hkEolWkFA8VMvP1AmxA-UL_yqWc0whbira6QkNRtxvsC5eEvHYAIkeQEcXZWsakbJCNW9baTQhKX5jUCnNodCmMGcuXlcEajC776JetYT_aicoKFG8OL8kFT0S9ynLQZJVg9rU-qztaBN6DgF-IdPJBD7YhXevGvF_suywSfQkSXz_q51oSzPDLKWBHK63msLu2bmFNyuoFk9AUN7tDk1GDUV6kTp2oPFVRS2vOet7yF1QoYDVC52G7V9NXTc2NtyktCbd41ikRlNijXJYbwLoatzv2plLHnomf2Du8ZvF4OsA8RfLB-GM0beIgFt501qm4Q3TTSgfNx6h4CBZngkotpFKRE21C6vDLa4eH8T9h9woLlHw8Cklw> as calls for regime change in Moscow. US officials have been leaking to the press claims that US intelligence has directly facilitated the killing of Russian generals <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMtuhDAMRb9mskQhDwiLLNpF1U_oDuVhIB1IUGKm4u8bBsmydeVrXR07gzCnfOo9FSRXG_HcQUf4KysgQiZHgTwGr9nQdooRr4VvlVQklHHKAJsJq8Z8ANkPuwZnMKR4-RVrmSCLVo5Ja0Ba37POiM4ZB5ZTIXvhnZj8nWoOHyA60PCCfKYIZNUL4l4e_OPBvmqZ7JbwgmZfqtj7z59vEjSjjFFJFaWCC97wBiYvoXdAlfXtZOhD0G1mTTlsQeOejUsbydrNUKXNKT2rYb4Y3puKMNa5HTHgOUI0dgV_0-H9ojfvOEOEXF_nR4O67WQ79LTjvB_am6biS664HHpJarRP9SpqZwKuIf6mJRasiP_baoG7> and the sinking of a Russian war ship <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkU1uwyAQhU8TdrYAg2MvWHTTa1gYxg41hgiGRrl9x42EeHowf3w4i7Dn8jbPXJFd24LvJ5gErxoBEQprFcoSvJGzGCfJvFFeTHpioS5bAThtiAZLA_ZsawzOYsjpip-kkIo9jJ_kqFYv5OwkF2LeZhAzl1xtsCk_yk9X23yA5MDAL5R3TsCieSA-6234uslvWq_Xq7er6xNgbxsdXDOSSC5lx3XHRzKtdiEhxBj2q1oXwfraYe7aUWxI0NWQjpD2rrRag-3OXI9fkkAuAhUQXHCllJYsmKsy13ziXA1q6IceNq_h7oBP9J7N8pvi5y772taK1h29yycrxu1Adi05HxSwX4D-b4jPQnq2FPC9QLJrBP9Bhx_-_zAXmhwK_YtfLBoxajHf-TgM91l8UBFbPUyDnu-aUWufKSsZZwPGkH7yI1Ukfn_-VZ_V>.
> 
> The imperial political/media class are not even denying that this is a US proxy war anymore. In an alarmingly rapid pivot from the mass media's earlier position that calling this a proxy war is merely an "accusation <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMmShCAMhp-muWmxiMKBw1zmNSyWaDNtg8Uytm8_OFalElJZfvJZXWCN6VR7zAVdbi7nDirAkTcoBRKqGdLsnaKSjIIipwZHBBfI53lJAG_tN1VSBbRXs3mri4_h6heU0AE9lRmlpaN0AGbiUrAJiKbCACODJAzoraqr8xAsKPiFdMYAaFPPUvb8YF8P-t3sOI5ef3zMvY3vllNMaQt4uN5jc6nm7HWnrW1fzl3QJXZx6fYUP2d36NT50NVX0r4t9-oaxxwLjAc2sJ71sDgOkwUsjCOLxo8Bv1fa52py0fZ1qaKk7AotNSnGV2tYr-v_K-34ucV3Db6cMwRtNnA3l3LD_Sc1rxAgNehu1kWRkRM54ZGxSZKbQwPHmWBcThw1aRfbVFBW-7L58BOfIZcG5w9VoZSQ>" promoted solely by Russia <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkUuu5CAMRVdTzIgIhHwGDN7kbSMy4CR0JRDx6XR236RKQrYMtu7l2EDGNcRbnSFl8oQ53ycqj1faMWeMpCSMs7OKT20_cmJVZ9tRjsSleYmIB7hd5ViQnEXvzkB2wT_9I295RzYlwTDB9djp0dpp4LaTfad1bywug9XTVxWKdegNKvyL8Q4eya62nM_0Ej8v_lvPdV1N3nAtEK0D35hwPLch7rZmzjivCc74FH0NsaTkgIIx9QeJesiBhoWeMfy76QWROk_LO4LzSCHRkuhWjSRqYjEOdlrtPYZoKsfhMnHqkWCSjYx1ohONaHCxEgeDbNS2XYC9OnasvElFpwzm_TgkUZkVa6ljCO_asD68Pi8V11zzUbzL94we9I72SzJ_1_FhO6_oMdY12RmyanvZTgPrhRim9kuuopZiFHIaJKnSNtQprwy4vDv_J2w-5YrzP1wlqJw>, we're now seeing the use of that term becoming more and more common in authorized news outlets. The New Yorker came right out <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMmOhSAQRb_msdMwiMOCRW_6NwxC6aOfgoGyjX_fZZuQIjXl3jrOIiwpX2ZPBdkdRrx2MBHOsgIiZHYUyGPwRg6i7SXzpvGi1z0LZZwzwGbDajAfwPZjWoOzGFK853spZMPeZpj7VjSd04P2rnMtyFlYLtwsJ9vxxj2q9vABogMDv5CvFIGt5o24l5f6eslveud51mTrSvkDuXZpo9ptkz5PHq6KShtEpPz4ZBsiVKFUMZ2V3SCTsVKdNleYEgtGcim55j3njWpUrWqYvYbOAe8nL2bLXw3fFlmXYypo3efWY9m4BSidckofGlju2_87dPp4yx8x4DVCtNMK_qGCD9p_TuMCETIh96NFI1otho63SnWDeCgQNq16pYdOM5L2ibaicTbgGuJPeseChOYP-xOWtA> and declared that the US is in "a full proxy war with Russia" the other day, and US congressman Seth Moulton recently told Fox News <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlUUGurCAQPM2wNAiizILF2_xrEGxa5Q2CgXbM3P7jm4RUh3SRKqrAEa65fMyRK7EbLH0ONAmvGpEICzsrFhu8Ec9-1IJ5M_heK81CtUtB3F2IhsqJ7DjnGMBRyOnma9GLgW1m9hN3i5bcDcs0DVOvBeCogSvPAbz6qrrTB0yABt9YPjkhi2YjOupD_jzEv3au6-oKuggRXTlyDBSgdpD3tnsHj7lNwYVog6sbxgZ0wqvZB1dibbbmxkt2c9V6jKEpobeXK9YlbxFyynsACzlGd1S0KV-WNrTvkOPtzbYvz7iGlEJau432yIK5JbnimvNBDrKTHS5e4QTI9ez7xfHHwPdVdPWcKzl43Y5ZMbBiu84l51cjrHeKf5sWYjOw72cK9LGY3BzRf_Olb0l_idsVE5ZWnreOTD-q_jnxUcrp2X_zbAUoqaV6Too1aZ_bq2TABYoh_eYtVWoh_wdS7bKq> that the US is at war with Russia through a proxy.
> 
> "At the end of the day, we've got to realize we're at war, and we're not just at war to support the Ukrainians," Moulton said. "We're fundamentally at war, although it's somewhat through proxy, with Russia. And it's important that we win."
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> 
> Eli Stein 
> @Fight_Back_NYC
> Wait what? We are officially in a proxy war with Russia? Did anyone sign up for this? 
> 
>  <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwtkMtuwyAQRb8mLCMexpgFi7ZSlt13hTBMbBobLBg38t8XN5UQMMzjco93CFMuh9lyRXJuFo8NTIJnXQARCtkrFBuD4Zr1AyfBdIENciCx2nsBWF1cDJYdyLaPS_QOY05n_cAZ78hsXE8dlYoFOkg99twrH1pKyLHXXHn2UnV7iJA8GPiBcuQEZDEz4lYv4u3Cb23hM57_ufq8tugWpxntu_MP-_n10R4qOtxruzDZpktNKRdMUya1UCQaTjmnkg6UdqITV3GFe5CgPNBhDOzu6KWj68SvdR_bJP84ZUgxfoIWjiXnRyuYTrN_mebVtnPdU8TDQnLjAuGFAV8s_8DYCRKUxjhYh4b1kmlFeyGU_rfdOEkxCKmVJE065NaVjHcRl5i-85wqNha_peuMMA>May 2nd 2022
> 
> 328 Retweets925 Likes
>  <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwtkMtuwyAQRb8mLCMexpgFi7ZSlt13hTBMbBobLBg38t8XN5UQMMzjco93CFMuh9lyRXJuFo8NTIJnXQARCtkrFBuD4Zr1AyfBdIENciCx2nsBWF1cDJYdyLaPS_QOY05n_cAZ78hsXE8dlYoFOkg99twrH1pKyLHXXHn2UnV7iJA8GPiBcuQEZDEz4lYv4u3Cb23hM57_ufq8tugWpxntu_MP-_n10R4qOtxruzDZpktNKRdMUya1UCQaTjmnkg6UdqITV3GFe5CgPNBhDOzu6KWj68SvdR_bJP84ZUgxfoIWjiXnRyuYTrN_mebVtnPdU8TDQnLjAuGFAV8s_8DYCRKUxjhYh4b1kmlFeyGU_rfdOEkxCKmVJE065NaVjHcRl5i-85wqNha_peuMMA>
> How fast did that happen? How fast were we paced from "It's Russian propaganda to call this a proxy war" to "Obviously this is a proxy war and we need to make sure we win"? Fast enough to make your head spin, that's for sure.
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> And it's not just a proxy war, it's a proxy war the US knowingly provoked. We know now that the US intelligence cartel had clear vision into Russia's plans to launch this invasion, which means they also knew how to prevent it. A few low-cost maneuvers like promising not to add Ukraine to NATO <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxFkUuO6yAQRVcTZlh8TIwHDHrytmEVUHbo2GABTuTdP5wMWkIUtz66pYODikvKp9lTqeS6pnruaCK-y4q1YiZHwTwFb8TI71oQb3rPtdIklGnOiBuE1dR8INkPuwYHNaR49WvBRU8eRo93Yb0aBmAAfp4ZMq1Er5RAVLO0X1c4fMDo0OAL85kiktU8at3LTf7cxL923u93t5VoXefS1nTaQ2xW7fXJ0j-dj1IC0EKPZ4YQkYb4gtJqdIOTPuCF1CJGuudmFivYFWnkYmRachKMYEIwxTRjvexlJzucvcLBtb2t5zOwW8-2RXTlsKWCe177kGzcgk3anNKzNSwXl0-lYZla3I4Y6jlhvOz8l1j9Yv8wnBaMmNt3-Amq4XfFx4HdpRxG_iXUkCqppRoHRZq1T20qGgehriH-pkcstWH7D-XLoAQ> as well as promising Zelensky that the US would protect him and his government from the violent fascist factions who were threatening to kill him <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxVkMuOhCAQRb-m2Wl4iI8Fi0km_RsGoVSmFQyU0_Hvp7p7NQkFAQruvcdZhCXlyxypIHtNI14HmAjPsgEiZHYWyGPwRg6i7SXzpvGi1z0LZZwzwG7DZjCfwI5z2oKzGFJ89fdSyIatxs2TAy4G6XXHPXdOtlw2HbjWce5Af1Tt6QNEBwZ-IV8pAtvMiniUm_q6yTuNnazW5ZwKWveoXdrp7KAqwYe4VM-Aa3U-sg0RSjXbXOWwrFid9MOd6juzYCSXkmvec96oRtWqhtlr6MhfP3kxW35r-L7IfzIsG7cAbaec0oMallfk9w0lHmndzxjwGiHaaQP_gYEfom884wIRMtn3o0UjWi2GjrdKdYP4hCdaWvVKD51mJO0TvYrG2YBbiD9pjQWJyB_LdpJn> if he honored the Minsk agreements and made peace with Russia as Ukrainians elected him to do. That's all it would have taken.
> 
> Many, many western experts warned for many years <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkE1yhCAQhU8zLC1-FRYskkUOkAtYCK1DomBBmylvHxyrKOAV3f14n3cISy6n3XNFcm0jnjvYBK-6AiIUclQoYwyWG9ZrToKVgWmlSazjXAA2F1eL5QCyH9MavcOY01WvOeOSPG3vjVfAtHS9oYNzQQ3zPNOe-z7wMMy3qztChOTBwh-UMycgq30i7vUhPh78qy18xes_nc9bU9-pdXxCweJSaLqiw6O2C5NGS8MYHQzlzUUZTqLllHOqqKZUCik60cEcFAweqJ4Cmx19SLotvKvH1Cb538uFFOsXaHIqOf-2guXK-n5pUcd2bkeKeI6Q3LRCuCngjfLNZVwgQWmIw-jQsl4xM9BeiMGwO3XDpIQWygyKNOuQW1ey3kVcY_rJz1SxofgHxpCNaQ> that the actions of the US and NATO would lead to the confrontation we're now being menaced with. There was every opportunity to turn away from this war, and instead the US-centralized empire hit the accelerator and drove right into it. Knowingly.
> 
> The whole thing was premeditated. All with the goal of weakening Russia and effecting regime change in Moscow in order to secure US unipolar hegemony <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJw9kMtuxCAMRb9m2E3EIw-yYNFNfyMiYBI6CUTgtMrfFyZVJbAFXNvcYzTCEtOljpiR1DDhdYAK8JM3QIREzgxp8lbxkfWSE6tay2Qnic-TSwC79pvCdAI5znnzRqOPoeolZ7wlq9LOGie504L3wtqeuQF6cCOVQ6_F2N5T9Wk9BAMKviFdMQDZ1Ip45If4ePDPskwMOSb0514_15i4l0tOOS-JtjWwqtIeNx-eX3ENGUufJ65l67QAPn1-mtUHXXTEq1pLOyopbUUrGtGAsx0MBqicLXOaPlq6L7zJ55xRm1cdSZIyC5TjnGJ8FcFS_b9fiv2p5P0MHq8Jgp43sDcZvPG-WU0LBEgFu500KtZ3bBxoL8QwsptEQdcJKbpx6EgZbWOpCurP17-tX2iplcU>.
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> Arnaud Bertrand 
> @RnaudBertrand
> Most fascinating thing about the Ukraine war is the sheer number of top strategic thinkers who warned for years that it was coming if we continued down the same path.
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> No-one listened to them and here we are.
> 
> Small compilation ? of these warnings, from Kissinger to Mearsheimer.
>  <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkE1yhCAQhU8zLC1-FRYskkUOkAtYCK1DomBBmylvHxyrKOAV3f14n3cISy6n3XNFcm0jnjvYBK-6AiIUclQoYwyWG9ZrToKVgWmlSazjXAA2F1eL5QCyH9MavcOY01WvOeOSPG3vjVfAtHS9oYNzQQ3zPNOe-z7wMMy3qztChOTBwh-UMycgq30i7vUhPh78qy18xes_nc9bU9-pdXxCweJSaLqiw6O2C5NGS8MYHQzlzUUZTqLllHOqqKZUCik60cEcFAweqJ4Cmx19SLotvKvH1Cb538uFFOsXaHIqOf-2guXK-n5pUcd2bkeKeI6Q3LRCuCngjfLNZVwgQWmIw-jQsl4xM9BeiMGwO3XDpIQWygyKNOuQW1ey3kVcY_rJz1SxofgHxpCNaQ>March 1st 2022
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> 
> Allowing the world to come this close to nuclear war already makes Biden the worst US president since Bush. At least. History may well show his to be the single most depraved presidency of all time.
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> Preventing nuclear war is a US president's single most important job. It's so important you shouldn't even really have to talk about it, because it's so self-evidently the number one priority. And this administration is just rolling the dice on nuclear conflict <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkE1rxCAQhn_NegxqYmIOHgqlPe-hlJ6CH5Osu4kGHbfk39dtYJgPZoaX57UaYYnpUHvMSF5pwmMHFeA3r4AIiZQMafJO8ZH1khOnOsekkMTnaU4Am_arwlSA7MWs3mr0MbzuJWe8IzclRxjoPPacCTFq0-nBaCe1lkLYDmZ5quriPAQLCp6QjhiArOqGuOdL-3bhHzWOWLA0Bmr7za_398_n9Yv_EK845ZwKKint2q5t2gZmJ2CwQKVxbNb00tFt4U0uJqO2j8bGjSRlF6ijSTE-6sHy4vjfVIyp1q0Ej8cEQZsV3EmIp03_zNMCAVK1z00aFesFGwfat-0wspOoWiBa2YpxEKRKu1i_grLa4-rDPd5Cxor5B1CEgoY> with increasing frequency every day.
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> Even if humanity survives this standoff (and the one with China that's next in line <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxdkN1uhCAQhZ9mudPwp-IFF02afQ2DMKu0CgaGbnz7sutVmzAQMmc4nM8ahCWmUx8xI3ltE54H6ADPvAEiJFIypMk7zUfWK06clo6pThGfp0cC2I3fNKYC5Cjz5q1BH8NLrzjjkqwaOmn5QIEypQwMjEnmRA-S99CLUdHL1RTnIVjQ8APpjAHIplfEI9_Ex43f67LG4-bDV1xDxipoc5kzGvvd2rjX_lELV2hKbmA_fILclA39XhM2aNIC2Pj62r3W55N4zSnntKOKUimkaEULD9fBYIGq2bGHoTdJ94X_sSFJ2wXqdU4xflfB8or_7tT0Uz33EjyeEwQzb-AuMHjRfaOaFgiQ6p_cZFCzvmPjQHshhpFdICq5TijRjUNHqrWLdSro_-F_AXl9loE>), Biden will still have been an unforgivably depraved president for allowing it to get this close. There's no excuse whatsoever for just casually rolling the dice on all terrestrial life like this.
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> Just seriously meditating on what nuclear war is and what it means should be enough to show anyone that any flirtation with the remotest possibility of inflicting it on our world is unforgivable. It's the worst crime anyone could possibly commit short of actual nuclear war.
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> Now all we can do is hope some small spark of sanity ignites deep within our species before we snuff ourselves out for good.
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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Sun May  8 01:56:12 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Sat, 7 May 2022 20:56:12 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Ukraine Alone Makes Biden The Worst US
 President In A Long Time
References: <20220508004343.3.efd5e7ce08bd1fa0@mg2.substack.com>
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: Caitlin Johnstone from Caitlin?s Newsletter <caitlinjohnstone at substack.com>
> Subject: Ukraine Alone Makes Biden The Worst US President In A Long Time
> Date: May 7, 2022 at 7:43:43 PM CDT
> To: cgestabrook at gmail.com
> Reply-To: Caitlin Johnstone from Caitlin?s Newsletter <reply+w1w3r&692a&&396cac75379af8cda33c0885288ef84daa3dc39a5a94a2ba1eeb8544e744af55 at mg1.substack.com>
> 
> 
> Ukraine Alone Makes Biden The Worst US President In A Long Time <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxdkluvojAQxz-NvGF6oVweeDjrJdFdJbqu5_hEShmgAi2Bogc__VZ92k3aTmbmPzNJfyO4gVL3U9zpwTjPJzVTB7GC-9CAMdA74wB9KvOYRNgPiZPHXo5DFjpySIseoOWyiU0_gtONWSMFN1Krpz4kmHhOFRce94tAEBb4JMoKDjgkReEBYjjDCMN7Kh9zCUpADDfoJ63AaeLKmG6Y0Y8ZWdsjuDSNVFddqcFYwXwYs8FwUc-Fbm2-s3esey4VuLyxArflNQxuJnNQrqnAvet-MDO6NroGNaNLmLZYkPP0RZp6c9VTclqRZLkZNurHTdBjwT8PMrn-eSTLHU5OAv9abLvL1zO2IvvTiu0fH2T32A2btnmIaePbOnyRyNtdV9N-8eyzt_4rbvsdjGjP1YUeu4x4sjjM1yCThSBl5QM7BtnvaySOzeeBri_s5_H77Lb37PSd3JLtSTsyJogQxFCIkEc9OqdzKHIGgQAUZjkuOJp5qC3JP7_i9LEowbpZr3VtBeWT1itjYaXWtqOSZkpB8ayB_M3RvJfhRTYtQUFvlyRPuYmxz3AUIJ_SIMJvbhY0oyFlUcAcOzrXtkrF_7P6C8NV0cQ>
>  <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxNkE1uxCAMhU8z7Brxm8CCRTe9RkTAydDJQAROq9y-ZFJVlZCNhfHz97xDWHI57JYrkjOMeGxgE3zXFRChkL1CGWOw3LBecxKsDEwrTWId5wLwdHG1WHYg2z6t0TuMOZ39mjMuyb1lAUHMlEoFmhswWmigEibO2GBmeam6PURIHix8QTlyArLaO-JWb-L9xj_aqftU0flH5_OzlVvJc1yh3ZgcBtNz_eZdxDWmt898TxXPGdFyyjlVVDd5IUUnOpiDgsED1VNgs6M3SZ8L7_5PJ8X6BVo5lZwfrWE5IV8vjXFs-bmniMcIyU0rhAsfLw9fhowLJCjN2zA6tKxXzAy0F2Iw7MJt_iihhTKDIk065PYr2V-Av_1_AFENjC0>	
> Caitlin Johnstone <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxNkE1uxCAMhU8z7Brxm8CCRTe9RkTAydDJQAROq9y-ZFJVlZCNhfHz97xDWHI57JYrkjOMeGxgE3zXFRChkL1CGWOw3LBecxKsDEwrTWId5wLwdHG1WHYg2z6t0TuMOZ39mjMuyb1lAUHMlEoFmhswWmigEibO2GBmeam6PURIHix8QTlyArLaO-JWb-L9xj_aqftU0flH5_OzlVvJc1yh3ZgcBtNz_eZdxDWmt898TxXPGdFyyjlVVDd5IUUnOpiDgsED1VNgs6M3SZ8L7_5PJ8X6BVo5lZwfrWE5IV8vjXFs-bmniMcIyU0rhAsfLw9fhowLJCjN2zA6tKxXzAy0F2Iw7MJt_iihhTKDIk065PYr2V-Av_1_AFENjC0>
> May 8	 <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxdUsmuozAQ_Jpwe5EXIOTgw0yWN7wJg5JH1gsydgMOq8AkIl8_TnKakaxq2V3ublW14BqyphtZ2_TaekKsxxZYDfe-BK2hs4YeulhJRubY9YglmS2x53iW6uO0A6i4KpnuBrDaISmV4Fo19ZPvEUxsK2dUEJcAmru2kKk7S3FCPI4RQdTzEkjouysfpIJaAIMbdGNTg1WyXOu2n9AfE7I2R3ClS1Vfm7zutSFM-yHpNRfFVDSVyfNWGbxhA8-KJrxm--iAi-dME7rWTQEmLmH8woIcxhMpC__ajGG0IuHS7_36503QXcqPWxVe949wGeAwEniz-Bovx_VVfpa3RPmuP_yW7cLwqzKXC98NojMOooIGy_MjGO-Kn_48TF0lfh3UJsrGIPKRr-5K0IN6vVeH_Ex3bUJslW6nh_Hzo9_LW_u9v562j-1ll-8vx52zatPie9NfYh6v3NQNS5VZihFECHKQh5BNbTqlU0ilAzMByEskTjma2KjKyD_yWB0TGZhr0jVNYQjZU5pXxrgWm1gNtdJjDDVPSpBvQ_V7K14yxhnU0JltkTHXDLsOns-QS-lsjt8GGscd6lFnPnMs01o25lfN_jftLy_-1cE>	 <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxdUk2P2yAQ_TXxzZEBfx44bPMhJW1iJU2zm5OF8dgmscEyOLvOry9O2kMrAdIMb97AvMeZgUr1I-2UNs50ZGbsgEr41A0YA70zaOgzUVCcoDDGTkH9AsVB7AidlT1Ay0RDTT-A0w15IzgzQskJH2OEfaemZR6SCEiZJMgPSOwBCW15iREv8oij5NWVDYUAyYHCHfpRSXAaWhvT6Rl5m-G1XZwJ0wh5VbXUxgLmesi1Yfw256q1953dw61nQoLLGgtwW3YD7eaiAOmaGtxP1WszMam2BWks9dqoG8gZWcK4RRyfxw_c3DZXNaanFU6XG72R3-6cHEv2fhDp9dcjXe5QeuLox2LbXT6m3ArvT6tg_3jDu8dOb9rmwcdNaOvQRXj-7roa94uJZ2_jZ97yHQxvz_WFHLsc-6I8zNcg0gXHVR1CcIzyn9eEH5v3A1lfgu_Hr7Pbfuanr_Sebk9qhsPBtJlWQ8_BvvzvFP7kWyjE0E4_moRxBMUexl7gxZ7nE5_MyRzKIoCIgxfnBSqZN_O9tsL_TNPpKa_Ahnmv1M0CqonseWNFzqb5DVKYMQPJ8gaKl_7mZaJn46wCCb01V5ExQ1EYoCTyQkKiBL30tgaxZiBBEgWObV0oWyXp_xr_BhvI5YY>	 <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxdUsuumzAU_BrYEYENBBYs2rxuoqRZ3DS56Qb5cQIOYKe2uRH5-pqkldpKtqUzHvvozAwjFiqlh-KmjPXHo7TDDQoJd9OCtaD93oAuBS9QHqUZ8nkR8yhLMl-Y8qIBOiLawuoe_FtPW8GIFUqO_AxFKPbr4jKFlDFOkzS5ZDRNcMgoIgAkoUmUY_rqSnouQDIo4BP0oCT4bVFbezMe_uKhpVuMCNsKeVW1NNYRJqanxhLWTJjq3P3N7b7RREgISOsIQUcaMAEVHGRgawjuShvr4WVvu9KoXjPw8PzPLx5KR7wDLvrO4c_BfoNMSQvSjuyaaHAoYeOYfwFWNTDWMGwiho7DB2qb9VUN-8MC7edrs-7ams_W6e5wjnaHBu_m58duuAvy8e3heIK9HcX2UA27wzpci7tg-Cie-Cp_8Fk0_Dgtr3zVflKxySf57pw8aHB6r8rNbBrF7efP7bx8W-TlIuPn2-r0Xs_3uP963H73RYFChMIkzMIwxjGe4AlceAJTBmFGeXQhoReHXYX-0dPXBavAlVQr1ThCNcrxvHE2O0G6rpfCDiVIQlvgrwTYV4ye0pUVSNAuXrwktohS5_U0TDGe5tHLcReRBGc4yaeJ71pz5V7J4n-XfwF5xegy>
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> Listen to a reading of this article: <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkUGOwyAMRU9TdlRAQkMXLGYz14gccCjTBCIwU_X2Q6aSBbL5XzbPDghDLm975ErsPGZ6H2gTvuqGRFhYq1jm6K26y5tRzNvRS6MNi3VeC-IOcbNUGrKjLVt0QDGnU2-UVCN7WDDCLaAFeGFW7UAYreVtgtUpJbWfPl2h-YjJocVfLO-ckG32QXTUy_B1Ud89am7Juy03f3V574WQYwpzyaFhz9qzQEzIYetmvsMTK1-ix8TpgfyVSyXeKj8K1rNKPCYOvIsDp7gji1YJpYQWRohxGIfrcMXVa5wcCrN4uYK4jGIP6lrbUgnc8xyDFesC9nQpOT-7IJw8_l86jrnfe0uR3jMmWDb0H1L0wf3Pbg6YsPQ1-BnIypuW90nchmG6yw-ZjlIPZtD3SbPe2ufuStZBpC2mn_xIlfqP_wDNhJ5c>
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> Ukraine Alone Makes Biden The Worst US President In A Long Time by Going Rogue With Caitlin Johnstone
> Going Rogue With Caitlin Johnstone
>  <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkUGOwyAMRU9TdlRAQkMXLGYz14gccCjTBCIwU_X2Q6aSBbL5XzbPDghDLm975ErsPGZ6H2gTvuqGRFhYq1jm6K26y5tRzNvRS6MNi3VeC-IOcbNUGrKjLVt0QDGnU2-UVCN7WDDCLaAFeGFW7UAYreVtgtUpJbWfPl2h-YjJocVfLO-ckG32QXTUy_B1Ud89am7Juy03f3V574WQYwpzyaFhz9qzQEzIYetmvsMTK1-ix8TpgfyVSyXeKj8K1rNKPCYOvIsDp7gji1YJpYQWRohxGIfrcMXVa5wcCrN4uYK4jGIP6lrbUgnc8xyDFesC9nQpOT-7IJw8_l86jrnfe0uR3jMmWDb0H1L0wf3Pbg6YsPQ1-BnIypuW90nchmG6yw-ZjlIPZtD3SbPe2ufuStZBpC2mn_xIlfqP_wDNhJ5c>?
> 
> Antiwar libertarian hero Scott Horton has a viral tweet <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMGOhCAMhp9mOE6ggOKBw172NQxCVXYdMFB34tsvjgkpFFr-_p93hEsup91zJXaFkc4dbcJ33ZAICzsqljEGC4PoDLBgVRBGGxbrOBfEl4ubpXIg249pi95RzOmqNyBAsdV6qdVguqAnmHzv_SyNUmIOJgTfSz3cqu4IEZNHi39YzpyQbXYl2utDfj3guy16x2uep8-vllWfidZcKKe65vd1Q46O2g5CA4BREgz03QAge86iBQ7ANTecK6nkUz5xDhp7j9xMQcyOPxR_LfCsx9R-8r-XDivWL9jSqeT82wqWy-3npZkd2_46UqRzxOSmDcPNgW6YHzLjgglLgxxGR1Z0Wgw976TsB3H7bqC0NA1Dr1mTDrl1JetdpC2mn7ym2hziP1BZjpY> going around which reads simply, "Biden's refusal to attempt to negotiate an end to the war in Ukraine is the greatest scandal in American political history."
> 
> Kind of smacks you in the face, doesn't it? I've never seen anyone put it quite like that before, but if you think about it, how could it not be true?
> 
> It's just a simple fact that the Biden administration is actually hindering?diplomatic efforts <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMtuxCAMRb9m2CXikQcsWHTT34gIOAmdBCJwWs3f15mR0PXCBh-OdwhrLi975orsjglfJ9gEf3UHRCjsqlCmGKw0YtCSBdsFoXvNYp2WAnC4uFssF7DzmvfoHcac7nkthezYZscgjNBcjIvWnVJGeyOMU50eNIx6mD9b3RUiJA8WfqG8cgK22w3xrA_19ZDfdArUM6ca5x0qErYvbsE2l5V6kktJhXd3GIpYG9yguWqzxRSgxLQ2x-W3JgEECE2I554PYvUNLEsuWOkSi_Z-iPdcc96pTrWqhSX0MHrgeg5icfzR8WOVbb1mgvDP1ueDFevXm2kuOT9pYL2dvDukZKJ6XCnia4LkCD58bOFH-dvftEKCQn8Kk0Mrhl6YkQ9KjUZ87JDOXmnVm7FntDoQekzWu4h7TD95SxVJ2T9PFJwV> to negotiate an end to this war <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxdkUuO7CAMRVdTzBLxyYcaMHiTt43IASdFF4EInI6y-yZds5bQvbKwuObYAuGa8mX2VIjdMtG1o4l4loBEmNlRME_eGfkUg5bMmc4J3Wvmy7RkxA18MJQPZPsxB2-BfIp3v5ZCduxl5oWP0nFchqFTXOiFi0F1swIcuB6V-6TC4TxGiwa_MV8pIgvmRbSXh_r3kP_rOc-zLRBSbG3aai25lNV4d4uuApH8Cbn5Tt5iaSyE0CwpN87vIW1gr8bH5nhn8BGbmKj5Ogo1J8KeYvnr0w6ZIub6LvPmzuI915x3qlOtanFxPY4WuZ6dWIA_Or6tsi3HXAjs-x6RZWNXrOWcU3rXhvVG9XtTSU3VtyN6uiaMMAd0H4j02cQv1mnFOkHdkJuAjBh68Rz5oNT4FB9olXKvtOqfY89qtKu_9NFY8BR8_EqvWKiS_AEjgqWN>, and that it has refused <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkE1uwyAQhU8TdrH4tfGCRTe9hoVh7NA4YMG4lW_fcSKhNwIe84YveIS11NPtpSG7ZMJzB5fhr22ACJUdDeqUopOj6K1k0ekorLEstWmpAC-fNof1ALYf85aCx1Ty5bdSSM0eTo-LNsHKXttRqEX03gL3g4mj16AW_Un1R0yQAzj4hXqWDGxzD8S93dTXTX7TwgekTAMF2LEL5UVHkktJhSsSYUiOZ_Upw70erSV___P13go1hLRmPO-Z_orpPWEjN0vu6sANt5xrpVWnOliigSEAt3MUi-c3zV-r7NoxN_TheQWz6sIKtJ1rKU8yrBeD9w0hmKi-jpzwnCD7eYP4oYMfxG9e0woZKqGPk0cneiPGgfdKDaP40CB8RlllxsEwio6FXmUXfMIt5Z_yyA0J0T8-35cb> to provide Ukraine with any kind of diplomatic negotiating power regarding the possible rollback of sanctions and other US measures to help secure peace. Washington's top diplomats have consistently been conspicuously absent <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlUctuhDAM_JrNLSgPWOCQQy_9DRSIAXchQYnpir-v6UrWWHZGGXs8eYIl5csdqZC4YaDrABfhXTYggizOAnnA4Eyvn50RwdVBd00nsAxzBtg9bo7yCeI4xw0nT5jize-MNrVYnTf66Wvd942eOXTNBYy9GRvoOqjbj6o_A0KcwMEv5CtFEJtbiY7ysF8P881xj1T5SPj2uZrSzi2jjOGkLINWDLSCPIvEIgvhtsmYSFK-MC4y4LGl3U-XfCOt8jgJo6TExHTIGZeVbhb3zlf2GIF_E-huBdWoTqna1rayFcyhgXYC1Y1Bz149arUvpirnWMhPr3swkd20AJdjTunFhOX26P-FLRo472dEugaIftwgfNyjzwn-_RwWiJD5NGHw5PSz0X2rnta2vf64xfY2trNN3zaCpQMvhtFNHmnD-JPWyFtF-AP-EaJR> from any kind of dialogue with their counterparts in Moscow. 
> 
> Statements from the administration <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkUluxCAQRU_T7GwxGEwvWGSTa1gMZTdpGywokvTtg9MS_GL4VYUe3iJsubzMmSuSSxZ8nWAS_NQdEKGQVqEsMRh-Z0pzEswUmJaaxLqsBeCwcTdYGpCzuT16izGny6854xN5GBW4ZrNT0nnvlFBMSue4UzysgXOt3l1tCxGSBwPfUF45AdnNA_GsN_Fx4599QIhX6dGnPvPRTzjlvAc6dWGyy5n37vG1L9uz2JhgKK3WaIezZCzWI4Thx5ah1QFaySfYNOR1jT7a_cqKKcDv-MBjJ9Fc5amkmtJJTGIUI6xBwuyBahfYaultosfGx9pcReuf16tIMX6DvnUl52c3bBef_5uOZ-nxaCnia4Fk3Q7hTQ7f-P9ZLhskKP1bwmLRMCXZfaZKiPnO3qQ6Wim0kPdZkt465J6VjLcR95i-8iNV7Pj-APwVoWQ> in fact indicate that they expect this war to drag on for a long time <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkc2OxCAIgJ9mvNmo_bMHD3vZ12io0o47HW0Ut-nbr91JDAiCwIcFwi2myxwxE7vFTNeBJuCZdyTCxErGNHtn1CQHrZgznZO618zneU2Ib_C7oVSQHWXZvQXyMdzxWknVsafpoZ1AConjYKcJlNJSL5Md1Ors4sb1UxWK8xgsGvzFdMWAbDdPoiM_2q-H-q7nPM8mYakt5cbG9-2JaXdVY0nxwHoJQJFnuDJPCO7iuRxHTMRfl__lJyQOG_iQiaeSswdOTyBuY9kd36G6L4SUuRJKcdFxpeuXzJvbFr3QQnRt1zZtg6vrcbQo9OLkCuLRifemmlyWTGBfd3csGbthNZcU46sGbDen_5eKaa76XYKna8YAy47uQ5A-a_hnOm8YMNX1uBnIyKGX0yiGth0n-SFWEfetbvtp7Fkt7WLNCsaCp92Hn_isc1aMfxKUpTs>, making it abundantly clear that a swift end to minimize the death and destruction is not just uninteresting but undesirable for the US empire.
> 
> 
> Scott Horton 
> @scotthortonshow
> Biden's refusal to attempt to negotiate an end to the war in Ukraine is the greatest scandal in American political history.
>  <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMGOhCAMhp9mOE6ggOKBw172NQxCVXYdMFB34tsvjgkpFFr-_p93hEsup91zJXaFkc4dbcJ33ZAICzsqljEGC4PoDLBgVRBGGxbrOBfEl4ubpXIg249pi95RzOmqNyBAsdV6qdVguqAnmHzv_SyNUmIOJgTfSz3cqu4IEZNHi39YzpyQbXYl2utDfj3guy16x2uep8-vllWfidZcKKe65vd1Q46O2g5CA4BREgz03QAge86iBQ7ANTecK6nkUz5xDhp7j9xMQcyOPxR_LfCsx9R-8r-XDivWL9jSqeT82wqWy-3npZkd2_46UqRzxOSmDcPNgW6YHzLjgglLgxxGR1Z0Wgw976TsB3H7bqC0NA1Dr1mTDrl1JetdpC2mn7ym2hziP1BZjpY>May 5th 2022
> 
> 1,766 Retweets8,558 Likes
>  <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMGOhCAMhp9mOE6ggOKBw172NQxCVXYdMFB34tsvjgkpFFr-_p93hEsup91zJXaFkc4dbcJ33ZAICzsqljEGC4PoDLBgVRBGGxbrOBfEl4ubpXIg249pi95RzOmqNyBAsdV6qdVguqAnmHzv_SyNUmIOJgTfSz3cqu4IEZNHi39YzpyQbXYl2utDfj3guy16x2uep8-vllWfidZcKKe65vd1Q46O2g5CA4BREgz03QAge86iBQ7ANTecK6nkUz5xDhp7j9xMQcyOPxR_LfCsx9R-8r-XDivWL9jSqeT82wqWy-3npZkd2_46UqRzxOSmDcPNgW6YHzLjgglLgxxGR1Z0Wgw976TsB3H7bqC0NA1Dr1mTDrl1JetdpC2mn7ym2hziP1BZjpY>
> And this isn't just another war. This is a proxy war being waged by one of the world's two top nuclear forces against the world's other top nuclear force. This is more serious than Iraq. It is more serious than Vietnam. It is more serious than any US war that has happened in the lifetime of anyone likely to be reading these words, because Russia has increasingly valid reasons to believe its very existence as a nation is being threatened. This is therefore a war that could very easily result in the death of everyone on earth <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxdkNFuhCAQRb9medMgqLAPPDRp9jcMwqzSKhgcavz7jrtPbcJAyNzhco-zCFPKp9nSjuzaBjw3MBGOfQFEyKzskIfgjbg3vRbMm9Y3utMs7MMzA6w2LAZzAbaVcQnOYkjx0mvRiJbNRl1zjnPFeaMaobXkmivVjb4VTvT929UWHyA6MPAD-UwR2GJmxG2_yY-beNByNuAS4lea444kqPcy7mjdd-3SSv2NCmeo5jJBNdmtGgEPgFjN6agoQ0iFHntQfR4sGMGF4B19hbeylbWs4ek7UA64Hn3ztPzW8nUSf1xYNm4Cuo45pW8STFf6V4fCD3SuJQY8B4h2XMC_ueAb7ovUMEGETND9YNE0fdfcFe-lJEhvDgSuk1p2d9UxsvaJpqL5n_0XvL6VPQ>.
> 
> The US Secretary of "Defense" has openly said <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMtuxCAMRb9mWEY8E7JgMZtuq6ofEBFwMnQSiMC0yt-XmUiWH7Ktq3OdRVhTPs2RCpJXmvA8wET4KxsgQia1QJ6CN3xkvebEG-mZVpqEMi0ZYLdhM5grkKPOW3AWQ4qve80Zl-RhqFyknoUdndZ2EW4ZBr04PjCluQTpL1VbfYDowMAv5DNFIJt5IB7lJu43_tHiTBVrN0Nro_yKnyWc_vtOguGUc6qoplQKKTrRweIVDA6onj1bLL1Juq-8K3UuaN2zc2kn2bgV2jjnlJ7tYH1xvDcNY2p1rzHgOUG08wb-IsTLpjfztEKE3Ozzk0XDesXGgfZCDCO7iJoFSmihxkGRJu1T-4rG2YBbiD_pEQs2zH-NvYLd> that America's goal is to "weaken" Russia in this war. Biden himself has made statements which can only be interpreted <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkEGOhCAQRU_T7DQIorhgMZu5hkEolWkFA8VMvP1AmxA-UL_yqWc0whbira6QkNRtxvsC5eEvHYAIkeQEcXZWsakbJCNW9baTQhKX5jUCnNodCmMGcuXlcEajC776JetYT_aicoKFG8OL8kFT0S9ynLQZJVg9rU-qztaBN6DgF-IdPJBD7YhXevGvF_suywSfQkSXz_q51oSzPDLKWBHK63msLu2bmFNyuoFk9AUN7tDk1GDUV6kTp2oPFVRS2vOet7yF1QoYDVC52G7V9NXTc2NtyktCbd41ikRlNijXJYbwLoatzv2plLHnomf2Du8ZvF4OsA8RfLB-GM0beIgFt501qm4Q3TTSgfNx6h4CBZngkotpFKRE21C6vDLa4eH8T9h9woLlHw8Cklw> as calls for regime change in Moscow. US officials have been leaking to the press claims that US intelligence has directly facilitated the killing of Russian generals <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMtuhDAMRb9mskQhDwiLLNpF1U_oDuVhIB1IUGKm4u8bBsmydeVrXR07gzCnfOo9FSRXG_HcQUf4KysgQiZHgTwGr9nQdooRr4VvlVQklHHKAJsJq8Z8ANkPuwZnMKR4-RVrmSCLVo5Ja0Ba37POiM4ZB5ZTIXvhnZj8nWoOHyA60PCCfKYIZNUL4l4e_OPBvmqZ7JbwgmZfqtj7z59vEjSjjFFJFaWCC97wBiYvoXdAlfXtZOhD0G1mTTlsQeOejUsbydrNUKXNKT2rYb4Y3puKMNa5HTHgOUI0dgV_0-H9ojfvOEOEXF_nR4O67WQ79LTjvB_am6biS664HHpJarRP9SpqZwKuIf6mJRasiP_baoG7> and the sinking of a Russian war ship <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkU1uwyAQhU8TdrYAg2MvWHTTa1gYxg41hgiGRrl9x42EeHowf3w4i7Dn8jbPXJFd24LvJ5gErxoBEQprFcoSvJGzGCfJvFFeTHpioS5bAThtiAZLA_ZsawzOYsjpip-kkIo9jJ_kqFYv5OwkF2LeZhAzl1xtsCk_yk9X23yA5MDAL5R3TsCieSA-6234uslvWq_Xq7er6xNgbxsdXDOSSC5lx3XHRzKtdiEhxBj2q1oXwfraYe7aUWxI0NWQjpD2rrRag-3OXI9fkkAuAhUQXHCllJYsmKsy13ziXA1q6IceNq_h7oBP9J7N8pvi5y772taK1h29yycrxu1Adi05HxSwX4D-b4jPQnq2FPC9QLJrBP9Bhx_-_zAXmhwK_YtfLBoxajHf-TgM91l8UBFbPUyDnu-aUWufKSsZZwPGkH7yI1Ukfn_-VZ_V>.
> 
> The imperial political/media class are not even denying that this is a US proxy war anymore. In an alarmingly rapid pivot from the mass media's earlier position that calling this a proxy war is merely an "accusation <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMmShCAMhp-muWmxiMKBw1zmNSyWaDNtg8Uytm8_OFalElJZfvJZXWCN6VR7zAVdbi7nDirAkTcoBRKqGdLsnaKSjIIipwZHBBfI53lJAG_tN1VSBbRXs3mri4_h6heU0AE9lRmlpaN0AGbiUrAJiKbCACODJAzoraqr8xAsKPiFdMYAaFPPUvb8YF8P-t3sOI5ef3zMvY3vllNMaQt4uN5jc6nm7HWnrW1fzl3QJXZx6fYUP2d36NT50NVX0r4t9-oaxxwLjAc2sJ71sDgOkwUsjCOLxo8Bv1fa52py0fZ1qaKk7AotNSnGV2tYr-v_K-34ucV3Db6cMwRtNnA3l3LD_Sc1rxAgNehu1kWRkRM54ZGxSZKbQwPHmWBcThw1aRfbVFBW-7L58BOfIZcG5w9VoZSQ>" promoted solely by Russia <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkUuu5CAMRVdTzIgIhHwGDN7kbSMy4CR0JRDx6XR236RKQrYMtu7l2EDGNcRbnSFl8oQ53ycqj1faMWeMpCSMs7OKT20_cmJVZ9tRjsSleYmIB7hd5ViQnEXvzkB2wT_9I295RzYlwTDB9djp0dpp4LaTfad1bywug9XTVxWKdegNKvyL8Q4eya62nM_0Ej8v_lvPdV1N3nAtEK0D35hwPLch7rZmzjivCc74FH0NsaTkgIIx9QeJesiBhoWeMfy76QWROk_LO4LzSCHRkuhWjSRqYjEOdlrtPYZoKsfhMnHqkWCSjYx1ohONaHCxEgeDbNS2XYC9OnasvElFpwzm_TgkUZkVa6ljCO_asD68Pi8V11zzUbzL94we9I72SzJ_1_FhO6_oMdY12RmyanvZTgPrhRim9kuuopZiFHIaJKnSNtQprwy4vDv_J2w-5YrzP1wlqJw>, we're now seeing the use of that term becoming more and more common in authorized news outlets. The New Yorker came right out <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkMmOhSAQRb_msdMwiMOCRW_6NwxC6aOfgoGyjX_fZZuQIjXl3jrOIiwpX2ZPBdkdRrx2MBHOsgIiZHYUyGPwRg6i7SXzpvGi1z0LZZwzwGbDajAfwPZjWoOzGFK853spZMPeZpj7VjSd04P2rnMtyFlYLtwsJ9vxxj2q9vABogMDv5CvFIGt5o24l5f6eslveud51mTrSvkDuXZpo9ptkz5PHq6KShtEpPz4ZBsiVKFUMZ2V3SCTsVKdNleYEgtGcim55j3njWpUrWqYvYbOAe8nL2bLXw3fFlmXYypo3efWY9m4BSidckofGlju2_87dPp4yx8x4DVCtNMK_qGCD9p_TuMCETIh96NFI1otho63SnWDeCgQNq16pYdOM5L2ibaicTbgGuJPeseChOYP-xOWtA> and declared that the US is in "a full proxy war with Russia" the other day, and US congressman Seth Moulton recently told Fox News <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlUUGurCAQPM2wNAiizILF2_xrEGxa5Q2CgXbM3P7jm4RUh3SRKqrAEa65fMyRK7EbLH0ONAmvGpEICzsrFhu8Ec9-1IJ5M_heK81CtUtB3F2IhsqJ7DjnGMBRyOnma9GLgW1m9hN3i5bcDcs0DVOvBeCogSvPAbz6qrrTB0yABt9YPjkhi2YjOupD_jzEv3au6-oKuggRXTlyDBSgdpD3tnsHj7lNwYVog6sbxgZ0wqvZB1dibbbmxkt2c9V6jKEpobeXK9YlbxFyynsACzlGd1S0KV-WNrTvkOPtzbYvz7iGlEJau432yIK5JbnimvNBDrKTHS5e4QTI9ez7xfHHwPdVdPWcKzl43Y5ZMbBiu84l51cjrHeKf5sWYjOw72cK9LGY3BzRf_Olb0l_idsVE5ZWnreOTD-q_jnxUcrp2X_zbAUoqaV6Too1aZ_bq2TABYoh_eYtVWoh_wdS7bKq> that the US is at war with Russia through a proxy.
> 
> "At the end of the day, we've got to realize we're at war, and we're not just at war to support the Ukrainians," Moulton said. "We're fundamentally at war, although it's somewhat through proxy, with Russia. And it's important that we win."
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> 
> Eli Stein 
> @Fight_Back_NYC
> Wait what? We are officially in a proxy war with Russia? Did anyone sign up for this? 
> 
>  <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwtkMtuwyAQRb8mLCMexpgFi7ZSlt13hTBMbBobLBg38t8XN5UQMMzjco93CFMuh9lyRXJuFo8NTIJnXQARCtkrFBuD4Zr1AyfBdIENciCx2nsBWF1cDJYdyLaPS_QOY05n_cAZ78hsXE8dlYoFOkg99twrH1pKyLHXXHn2UnV7iJA8GPiBcuQEZDEz4lYv4u3Cb23hM57_ufq8tugWpxntu_MP-_n10R4qOtxruzDZpktNKRdMUya1UCQaTjmnkg6UdqITV3GFe5CgPNBhDOzu6KWj68SvdR_bJP84ZUgxfoIWjiXnRyuYTrN_mebVtnPdU8TDQnLjAuGFAV8s_8DYCRKUxjhYh4b1kmlFeyGU_rfdOEkxCKmVJE065NaVjHcRl5i-85wqNha_peuMMA>May 2nd 2022
> 
> 328 Retweets925 Likes
>  <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwtkMtuwyAQRb8mLCMexpgFi7ZSlt13hTBMbBobLBg38t8XN5UQMMzjco93CFMuh9lyRXJuFo8NTIJnXQARCtkrFBuD4Zr1AyfBdIENciCx2nsBWF1cDJYdyLaPS_QOY05n_cAZ78hsXE8dlYoFOkg99twrH1pKyLHXXHn2UnV7iJA8GPiBcuQEZDEz4lYv4u3Cb23hM57_ufq8tugWpxntu_MP-_n10R4qOtxruzDZpktNKRdMUya1UCQaTjmnkg6UdqITV3GFe5CgPNBhDOzu6KWj68SvdR_bJP84ZUgxfoIWjiXnRyuYTrN_mebVtnPdU8TDQnLjAuGFAV8s_8DYCRKUxjhYh4b1kmlFeyGU_rfdOEkxCKmVJE065NaVjHcRl5i-85wqNha_peuMMA>
> How fast did that happen? How fast were we paced from "It's Russian propaganda to call this a proxy war" to "Obviously this is a proxy war and we need to make sure we win"? Fast enough to make your head spin, that's for sure.
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> And it's not just a proxy war, it's a proxy war the US knowingly provoked. We know now that the US intelligence cartel had clear vision into Russia's plans to launch this invasion, which means they also knew how to prevent it. A few low-cost maneuvers like promising not to add Ukraine to NATO <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxFkUuO6yAQRVcTZlh8TIwHDHrytmEVUHbo2GABTuTdP5wMWkIUtz66pYODikvKp9lTqeS6pnruaCK-y4q1YiZHwTwFb8TI71oQb3rPtdIklGnOiBuE1dR8INkPuwYHNaR49WvBRU8eRo93Yb0aBmAAfp4ZMq1Er5RAVLO0X1c4fMDo0OAL85kiktU8at3LTf7cxL923u93t5VoXefS1nTaQ2xW7fXJ0j-dj1IC0EKPZ4YQkYb4gtJqdIOTPuCF1CJGuudmFivYFWnkYmRachKMYEIwxTRjvexlJzucvcLBtb2t5zOwW8-2RXTlsKWCe177kGzcgk3anNKzNSwXl0-lYZla3I4Y6jlhvOz8l1j9Yv8wnBaMmNt3-Amq4XfFx4HdpRxG_iXUkCqppRoHRZq1T20qGgehriH-pkcstWH7D-XLoAQ> as well as promising Zelensky that the US would protect him and his government from the violent fascist factions who were threatening to kill him <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxVkMuOhCAQRb-m2Wl4iI8Fi0km_RsGoVSmFQyU0_Hvp7p7NQkFAQruvcdZhCXlyxypIHtNI14HmAjPsgEiZHYWyGPwRg6i7SXzpvGi1z0LZZwzwG7DZjCfwI5z2oKzGFJ89fdSyIatxs2TAy4G6XXHPXdOtlw2HbjWce5Af1Tt6QNEBwZ-IV8pAtvMiniUm_q6yTuNnazW5ZwKWveoXdrp7KAqwYe4VM-Aa3U-sg0RSjXbXOWwrFid9MOd6juzYCSXkmvec96oRtWqhtlr6MhfP3kxW35r-L7IfzIsG7cAbaec0oMallfk9w0lHmndzxjwGiHaaQP_gYEfom884wIRMtn3o0UjWi2GjrdKdYP4hCdaWvVKD51mJO0TvYrG2YBbiD9pjQWJyB_LdpJn> if he honored the Minsk agreements and made peace with Russia as Ukrainians elected him to do. That's all it would have taken.
> 
> Many, many western experts warned for many years <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkE1yhCAQhU8zLC1-FRYskkUOkAtYCK1DomBBmylvHxyrKOAV3f14n3cISy6n3XNFcm0jnjvYBK-6AiIUclQoYwyWG9ZrToKVgWmlSazjXAA2F1eL5QCyH9MavcOY01WvOeOSPG3vjVfAtHS9oYNzQQ3zPNOe-z7wMMy3qztChOTBwh-UMycgq30i7vUhPh78qy18xes_nc9bU9-pdXxCweJSaLqiw6O2C5NGS8MYHQzlzUUZTqLllHOqqKZUCik60cEcFAweqJ4Cmx19SLotvKvH1Cb538uFFOsXaHIqOf-2guXK-n5pUcd2bkeKeI6Q3LRCuCngjfLNZVwgQWmIw-jQsl4xM9BeiMGwO3XDpIQWygyKNOuQW1ey3kVcY_rJz1SxofgHxpCNaQ> that the actions of the US and NATO would lead to the confrontation we're now being menaced with. There was every opportunity to turn away from this war, and instead the US-centralized empire hit the accelerator and drove right into it. Knowingly.
> 
> The whole thing was premeditated. All with the goal of weakening Russia and effecting regime change in Moscow in order to secure US unipolar hegemony <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJw9kMtuxCAMRb9m2E3EIw-yYNFNfyMiYBI6CUTgtMrfFyZVJbAFXNvcYzTCEtOljpiR1DDhdYAK8JM3QIREzgxp8lbxkfWSE6tay2Qnic-TSwC79pvCdAI5znnzRqOPoeolZ7wlq9LOGie504L3wtqeuQF6cCOVQ6_F2N5T9Wk9BAMKviFdMQDZ1Ip45If4ePDPskwMOSb0514_15i4l0tOOS-JtjWwqtIeNx-eX3ENGUufJ65l67QAPn1-mtUHXXTEq1pLOyopbUUrGtGAsx0MBqicLXOaPlq6L7zJ55xRm1cdSZIyC5TjnGJ8FcFS_b9fiv2p5P0MHq8Jgp43sDcZvPG-WU0LBEgFu500KtZ3bBxoL8QwsptEQdcJKbpx6EgZbWOpCurP17-tX2iplcU>.
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> Arnaud Bertrand 
> @RnaudBertrand
> Most fascinating thing about the Ukraine war is the sheer number of top strategic thinkers who warned for years that it was coming if we continued down the same path.
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> No-one listened to them and here we are.
> 
> Small compilation ? of these warnings, from Kissinger to Mearsheimer.
>  <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkE1yhCAQhU8zLC1-FRYskkUOkAtYCK1DomBBmylvHxyrKOAV3f14n3cISy6n3XNFcm0jnjvYBK-6AiIUclQoYwyWG9ZrToKVgWmlSazjXAA2F1eL5QCyH9MavcOY01WvOeOSPG3vjVfAtHS9oYNzQQ3zPNOe-z7wMMy3qztChOTBwh-UMycgq30i7vUhPh78qy18xes_nc9bU9-pdXxCweJSaLqiw6O2C5NGS8MYHQzlzUUZTqLllHOqqKZUCik60cEcFAweqJ4Cmx19SLotvKvH1Cb538uFFOsXaHIqOf-2guXK-n5pUcd2bkeKeI6Q3LRCuCngjfLNZVwgQWmIw-jQsl4xM9BeiMGwO3XDpIQWygyKNOuQW1ey3kVcY_rJz1SxofgHxpCNaQ>March 1st 2022
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> 
> Allowing the world to come this close to nuclear war already makes Biden the worst US president since Bush. At least. History may well show his to be the single most depraved presidency of all time.
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> Preventing nuclear war is a US president's single most important job. It's so important you shouldn't even really have to talk about it, because it's so self-evidently the number one priority. And this administration is just rolling the dice on nuclear conflict <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkE1rxCAQhn_NegxqYmIOHgqlPe-hlJ6CH5Osu4kGHbfk39dtYJgPZoaX57UaYYnpUHvMSF5pwmMHFeA3r4AIiZQMafJO8ZH1khOnOsekkMTnaU4Am_arwlSA7MWs3mr0MbzuJWe8IzclRxjoPPacCTFq0-nBaCe1lkLYDmZ5quriPAQLCp6QjhiArOqGuOdL-3bhHzWOWLA0Bmr7za_398_n9Yv_EK845ZwKKint2q5t2gZmJ2CwQKVxbNb00tFt4U0uJqO2j8bGjSRlF6ijSTE-6sHy4vjfVIyp1q0Ej8cEQZsV3EmIp03_zNMCAVK1z00aFesFGwfat-0wspOoWiBa2YpxEKRKu1i_grLa4-rDPd5Cxor5B1CEgoY> with increasing frequency every day.
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> Even if humanity survives this standoff (and the one with China that's next in line <https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJxdkN1uhCAQhZ9mudPwp-IFF02afQ2DMKu0CgaGbnz7sutVmzAQMmc4nM8ahCWmUx8xI3ltE54H6ADPvAEiJFIypMk7zUfWK06clo6pThGfp0cC2I3fNKYC5Cjz5q1BH8NLrzjjkqwaOmn5QIEypQwMjEnmRA-S99CLUdHL1RTnIVjQ8APpjAHIplfEI9_Ex43f67LG4-bDV1xDxipoc5kzGvvd2rjX_lELV2hKbmA_fILclA39XhM2aNIC2Pj62r3W55N4zSnntKOKUimkaEULD9fBYIGq2bGHoTdJ94X_sSFJ2wXqdU4xflfB8or_7tT0Uz33EjyeEwQzb-AuMHjRfaOaFgiQ6p_cZFCzvmPjQHshhpFdICq5TijRjUNHqrWLdSro_-F_AXl9loE>), Biden will still have been an unforgivably depraved president for allowing it to get this close. There's no excuse whatsoever for just casually rolling the dice on all terrestrial life like this.
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> Just seriously meditating on what nuclear war is and what it means should be enough to show anyone that any flirtation with the remotest possibility of inflicting it on our world is unforgivable. It's the worst crime anyone could possibly commit short of actual nuclear war.
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> Now all we can do is hope some small spark of sanity ignites deep within our species before we snuff ourselves out for good.
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From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2022 09:16:41 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Megalopolis x Russia: Total War
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> From: Pepe Escobar / The Unz Review <social at unz.com>
> Subject: Megalopolis x Russia: Total War
> To: carl at newsfromneptune.com
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> Megalopolis x Russia: Total War <http://emailtrack.mg.unz.com/c/eJw1jssKwyAURL8m7hKu95pYFy76oP9hjGkDGoMaLP36hkBhFjMwHM6kp5EjWbZoBETo4cIFUK863tFT3Tndb0qSlFI8GgHh1e3rt7MxsLcewXIlLOGkcLJCgcNxHmbggxsUDcCCJrxITiiY1-9SttzQtcHnkVrrn3SszWUbR5OOGtzL-LhFv-T206Y958W0JRbj23oeWNLWJH_IrK7mOcWwuq3sqzutiv6zfhfcQ2Q>Pepe Escobar ? Friday, May 6, 2022 ? 1,900 Words
> 
> After careful evaluation, the Kremlin is rearranging the geopolitical chessboard to end the unipolar hegemony of the ?indispensable nation?.
> 
> But it?s our fate / To have no place to rest, / As suffering mortals / Blindly fall and vanish / From one hour / To the next, / Like water falling / From cliff to cliff, downward / For years to uncertainty.
> 
> Holderlin, Hyperion?s Fate Song
> 
> Operation Z is the first salvo of a titanic struggle: three decades after the fall of the USSR, and 77 years after the end of WWII, after careful evaluation, the Kremlin is rearranging the geopolitical chessboard to end the unipolar hegemony of the ?indispensable nation?. No wonder the Empire of Lies has gone completely berserk, obsessed in completely expelling Russia from the West-centric system.
> 
> The U.S. and its NATO puppies cannot possibly come to grips with their perplexity when faced with a staggering loss: no more entitlement allowing exclusive geopolitical use of force to perpetuate ?our values?. No more Full Spectrum Dominance.
> 
> The micro-picture is also clear. The U.S. Deep State is milking to Kingdom Come its planned Ukraine gambit to cloak a strategic attack on Russia. The ?secret? was to force Moscow into an intra-Slav war in Ukraine to break Nord Stream 2 ? and thus German reliance on Russian natural resources. That ends ? at least for the foreseeable future ? the prospect of a Bismarckian Russo-German connection that would ultimately cause the U.S. to lose control of the Eurasian landmass from the English Channel to the Pacific to an emerging China-Russia-Germany pact.
> 
> The American strategic gambit, so far, has worked wonders. But the battle is far from over. Psycho neo-con/neoliberalcon silos inside the Deep State consider Russia such a serious threat to the ?rules-based international order? that they are ready to risk if not incur a ?limited? nuclear war out of their gambit. What?s at stake is nothing less than the loss of Ruling the World by the Anglo-Saxons.
> 
> Mastering the Five Seas  
> 
> Russia, based on purchasing power parity (PPP), is the 6th economy in the world, right behind Germany and ahead of both the UK and France. Its ?hard? economy is similar to the U.S. Steel production may be about the same, but intellectual capacity is vastly superior. Russia has roughly the same number of engineers as the U.S., but they are much better educated.
> 
> The Mossad attributes Israel?s economic miracle in creating an equivalent of Silicon Valley to a base of a million Russian immigrants. This Israeli Silicon Valley happens to be a key asset of the American MICIMATT (military-industrial-congressional-intelligence-media-academia-think tank complex), as indelibly named by Ray McGovern.
> 
> NATOstan media hysterically barking that Russia?s GDP is the size of Texas is nonsense. PPP is what really counts; that and Russia?s superior engineers is why their hypersonic weapons are at least two or three generations ahead of the U.S. Just ask the indispensable Andrei Martyanov <http://emailtrack.mg.unz.com/c/eJwdjcsOgyAURL9GloR7QZEFi9bG_xCk2kQeAUybfn2xyaxmMuesejWA3JKXRobIejaCYLxXFCif1QR8uivJpZTi0QnmN3qGL7XRk10bB8sgcJQgAV1vBtvuApVSrZaN6TW_Vo6CHHqvNXX81uHcUnyMdX-5DyA1R9xKivWitolkbZd8NFlw7_LM0QeX6hnc31p1csVGs-QfJIY2-w>.
> 
> The Empire of Lies has no defensive missiles worthy of the name, and no equivalents to Mr. Zircon and Mr. Sarmat. The NATOstan sphere simply cannot win a war, any war against Russia for this reason alone.
> 
> The deafening NATOstan ?narrative? that Ukraine is defeating Russia does not even qualify as an innocuous joke? <http://emailtrack.mg.unz.com/c/eJwdjkmOwyAURE9jdraAjyEsWGRQ7oHhO0Yx2GFQpD590y3Vpp6eSuWNXxgHR4LhlHM60wsTFGY9sQme-s7gftMKlFLiMQgaX1NLP5M7ItnMLIFKtEAXydbVo_dSC4WS645WupBogF8UAy7IbrZazzLAdeDPnnIkmzn7W-qtbjjmVkqwaawh4h4Sji6HGj4Nx9BhF9o72867TrJxNu_9T8JvWfMRE561Jfw_Vs2JxR2Lzb8C80S8>(compare it with Russia?s ?Reach Out and Touch Someone? strategy). The corrupt system of SBU fanatics intermingled with UkroNazi factions is kaput. The Pentagon knows it. The CIA cannot possibly admit it. What the Empire of Lies has sort of won, so far, is a media ?victory? for the UkroNazis, not a military victory.
> 
> Gen Aleksandr Dvornikov, of Syria fame, has a clear mandate: to conquer the whole of Donbass, totally free up Crimea and prepare the advance towards Odessa and Transnistria while reducing a rump Ukraine to the status of failed state without any access to the sea.
> 
> The Sea of Azov ? linked to the Caspian by the Don-Volga canal ? is already a Russian lake. And the Black Sea is next, the key connection between the Heartland and the Mediterranean. The Five Seas system ? Black, Azov, Caspian, Baltic, White ? enshrines Russia as a de facto continental naval power. Who needs warm waters?
> 
> Moving ?at the speed of war?
> 
> The pain dial, from now on, will go up non-stop. Reality ? as in facts on the ground ? will soon become apparent even to the NATOstan-wide LugenPresse.
> 
> The woke Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen Mark Milley, expects Operation Z to last years. That?s nonsense. The Russian Armed Forces may afford to be quite methodical and take all the time needed to properly demilitarize Ukraine. The collective West for its part is pressed for time ? because the blowback from the real economy is already on and bound to become vicious.
> 
> Defense Minister Shoigu has made it quite clear: any NATO vehicles bringing weapons to Kiev will be destroyed as ?legitimate military targets?.
> 
> A report by the scientific service of the Bundestag <http://emailtrack.mg.unz.com/c/eJwdjUsKwyAUAE8Tl6I-jXHhok3JPfy8fKCaYAyBnL5SGBhmNdFGzwUEslnBhGCKDVwyUIZyCpMZOYxvo0FrLT-dZGmhV35o2BNZrRk067XoJQbQalZqdnJWMgzSeOV6T5IFMWgOQpKvXWs9zg5enZga933TB7dKI7aqKybX7K8c8axuIcUGV77tmPE-57KnjEe9Mv7X1R54ht278gNjJzlN> established that training of Ukrainian soldiers on German soil <http://emailtrack.mg.unz.com/c/eJxNkMtuhDAMRb8GdkR5kIZZZNHOiN-o8jAQEQLKY1Dn6xumm0qWda9lWefaSqsJZaZ1kmJKMccD6THjN0QQG293wu5fN8GEEP2j6fE2oxJeyOxbu0jbs4HTCQbRYxgoHzQjmn8IyrnGxPB2k4wOgjDat14uOR-pYZ8NHWud54le4DKyUN2xe5fdWpWFkpNZvAq2ugupw7wqVZJ23pYwd2n3VmUIXVmjcgG6NTqYk4YMzrv5Wvl3pXvu4FeIEcySGzaWvH1HmK5BbNjjj4ryi4tfZLWpU_2g53qlfPs2SqOir_EDnGmK-xbgyCXA-w9ZHpDMrlX8BeJKaes> may amount, under international law, to participation in war. And that gets even trickier when coupled with NATO weapons deliveries: ?Only if, in addition to the supply of weapons, the instruction of the conflict party or training in such weapons were also an issue would one leave the secure area of ??non-warfare.?
> 
> Now at least it?s irretrievably clear how the Empire of Lies ?moves at the speed of war? <http://emailtrack.mg.unz.com/c/eJwdjktuhDAQRE-Dd235RwwLL5KJ5h6NaQYU_JFtgpTTx4lUmypVld7q1kUq7dnhlFBKjGKSRuhx5pLr5_yQ-vExW22tNZ-DEeHFr_jDfQpsd1ZqK9SoN7STEWIcZ1ylRqHMSm-4EAtOq6m3lGGn21vLddDvg3p23ffN8ShbKp4Cvv4ee4pXbUeEjKVFKhVC9xDSNwE2aDtBzUQrpA1uLNAS7HRmuL4KHpH6nhXnsZwdNNJdt5JCpNyuSP_EzWWqPi1YfgH8Bk3E> ? as described in public by weapons peddler turned Pentagon head, Lloyd ?Raytheon? Austin. In Pentagonese, that was explained by the proverbial ?official? as ?a combination of a call center, a watch floor, meeting rooms. They execute a battle rhythm to support decision-makers.?
> 
> The Pentagonese ?battle rhythm? offered to a supposedly ?credible, resilient and combat-capable Ukraine military? is fed by a EUCom system <http://emailtrack.mg.unz.com/c/eJw1kMFugzAQRL8GbiCzNrF98IEQUuXQHpJWPTtmE6yCiYwRbb--hqiSNX679o5G26r2WgA1qVVAAEhJRMEILWVe5PQo64LWe8kp55wdEkaGez6739yMQ9opKsHsSsGY4FwLaeSuLeBWmhY50ZKLdFAUBC8osLRXXQiPKaFVAsd4lmXJtfW30Rsc9H11XLudDpmdMpxjPWXzl9fWYWZGF_zYZwZdQL8a0GOcsn1CDw-czHjVsUtXc95EDfgd4tO5er28N6e3BEog1em83fvq0qxQb9UL-kG7n8gNRBEkimSfNnTWJVCHDrdvNx8TbNTHPBtYN9n2iR_PmKlXRvs-bsnhMsWRweEjzA63dQX1n_QPVXJvXA> that essentially moves weapons orders from Pentagon warehouses in the U.S. to branches of the Empire of Bases in Europe and then to the NATO eastern front in Poland, where they are trucked across Ukraine just in time to be duly incinerated by Russian precision strikes: the wealth of options include supersonic P-800 Onyx missiles, two types of Iskander, and Mr. Khinzal launched from Mig-31Ks.
> 
> Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has stressed Moscow is perfectly aware the U.S., NATO and UK are transferring not only weapons but also loads of intel. In parallel, the collective West turns everything upside down 24/7 shaping a new environment totally geared against Russia, not caring for even a semblance of partnership in any area. The collective West does not even consider the possibility of dialogue with Russia.
> 
> Hence talking to Putin is ?a waste of time? unless a ?Russian defeat? in Ukraine (echoing strident Kiev P.R.) would make him ?more realistic?. For all his faults, Le Petit Roi Macron/McKinsey has been an exception, on the phone with Putin earlier this week.
> 
> The neo-Orwellian Hitlerization of Putin reduces him, even among the so-called Euro-intelligentzia, to the status of dictator of a nation chloroformed into its 19th century nationalism. Forget about any semblance of historical/political/cultural analysis. Putin is a late Augustus, dressing up his Imperium as a Republic.
> 
> At best the Europeans preach and pray ? chihuahuas yapping to His Master?s Voice ? for a hybrid strategy of ?containment and engagement? to be unleashed by the U.S., clumsily parroting the scribblings of denizens of that intellectual no-fly zone, Think Tankland.
> 
> Yet in fact the Europeans would rather ?isolate? Russia ? as in 12% of the world?s population ?isolating? 88% (of course: their Westoxified ?vision? completely ignores the Global South). ?Help? to Russia will only come when sanctions are effective (as in never: blowback will be the norm) or ? the ultimate wet dream ? there?s regime change in Moscow.
> 
> The Fall
> 
> UkroNazi P.R. agent Ursula von der Lugen presented the sixth sanction package of the Europoodle (Dis)Union.
> 
> Top of the bill is to exclude three more Russian banks from SWIFT, including Sberbank. Seven banks are already excluded. This will enforce Russia?s ?total isolation?. It?s idle to comment on something that only fools the LugenPresse.
> 
> Then there?s the ?progressive? embargo on oil imports. No more crude imported to the EU in six months and no more refined products before the end of 2022. As it stands, the IEA shows that 45% of Russia?s oil exports go to the EU (with 22% to China and 10% to the U.S.). His Master?s Voice continues and will continue to import Russian oil.
> 
> And of course 58 ?personal? sanctions also show up, targeting very dangerous characters such as Patriarch Kirill of the Orthodox Church, and the wife, son and daughter of Kremlin spokesman Dmitri Peskov.
> 
> This stunning display of stupidity will have to be approved by all EU members. Internal revolt is guaranteed, especially from Hungary, even as so many remain willing to commit energy suicide and mess up with the lives of their citizens big time to defend a neo-Nazi regime.
> 
> Alastair Crooke called my attention to a startling, original interpretation of what?s goin? on, offered in Russian by a Serbian analyst, Prof. Slobodan Vladusic. His main thesis, in a nutshell: ?Megalopolis hates Russia because it is not Megalopolis ? it has not entered the sphere of anti-humanism and that is why it remains a civilization alternative. Hence Russophobia.?
> 
> Vladusic contends that the intra-Slav war in Ukraine is ?a great catastrophe for Orthodox civilization? ? mirroring my recent first attempt to open a serious debate on a Clash of Christianities <http://emailtrack.mg.unz.com/c/eJwdjssOgyAURL9GlgbuRYEFi9bG_-BlNeFhENOkX1_SZBZnNnPGa28ZoCOHBgpAJyoZpzipkY24qoXh8lQChRD8NXCa3uOdv6MriezaU2nl7KzAMM0gKXjJ0XJqrNqQKUOSRpCCIXAS9d7aeQ34GGDtaXtw1fgY-lavj9oOF0MnV-Kd8tWpa5FU7UyN3ZzD59pqSTmc7c7hf6HpM1yuWFN_GYw7NQ>.
> 
> Yet the major schism is not on religion but culture: ?The key difference between the former West and today?s Megalopolis is that Megalopolis programmatically renounces the humanistic heritage of the West.?
> 
> So now ?it is possible to erase not only the musical canon, but also the entire European humanistic heritage: the entire literature, fine arts, philosophy? because of a ?trivialization of knowledge?. What?s left is an empty space, actually a cultural black hole, ?filled by promoting terms such as ?posthumanism? and ?transhumanism?.?
> 
> And here Vladusic gets to the heart of the matter: Russia fiercely opposes the Great Reset concocted by the ?hackable?, self-described ?elites? of Megalopolis.
> 
> Sergey Glazyev, now coordinating the draft of a new financial/monetary system by the Eurasia Economic Union (EAEU) in partnership with the Chinese, adapts Vladusic to the facts on the ground (here <http://emailtrack.mg.unz.com/c/eJwdjj1uxCAYBU9jOizgA2MXFMlGew8MeEHhxwLsSHv6oJVeMW-qscrulIFBQTHCGBFkpZyA2GY6w3N7UHh8bxKklPxn4iS95iu_Z1MS8oqs9tjFYqh0YI5lX6jgzBIngKzLQSRKCtgqKTCOovK9n22Cr4k9x15Rv90912uwrj2Y6NpASvAddes44LI3713rd_l4yjfAWddi8RnLry_4LDkk7To2vo9XS2hD29BRVUbXOHKz-2tHLSm7s1_Zfbq7Ol0zZdf1H2l-TxM> in Russian, here <http://emailtrack.mg.unz.com/c/eJwdjsGOgyAUAL9GbhDgaZEDh103_Q-Ep5giGMBt2q-vaTKXOUwy3vhZSHBkM5JLyQc-ip7DoJlgcNeTgOlXK1BK9X9dz_eVnenNXN5JMIiL84udZ9ButAosaIUSRi9u0vqBk92AHJUA2ZNoQmtHBz-dvF-0gNU-sLCtXlaxrPiia7TvF_7TJRfaQq5InyHT2rYYqc-p0TN5LLXZ5K-IFONsiddUwmddSt4THu1M-L1r5sDq8mzLB_Z4R8k> in an imperfect English translation).
> 
> Glazyev is way more blunt than in his meticulous economic analyses. While noting the Deep State?s aims of destroying the Russian world, Iran and block China, he stresses the U.S. ?will not be able to win the global hybrid war?. A key reason is that the collective West has ?put all independent countries in front of the need to find new global currency instruments, risk insurance mechanisms, restore the norms of international law and create their own economic security systems.?
> 
> So yes, this is Totalen Krieg, Total War ? as Glazyev spells it out with no attenuation, and how Russia denounced it this week at the UN: ?Russia needs to stand up to the United States and NATO in its confrontation, bringing it to its logical conclusion, so as not to be torn between them and China, which is irrevocably becoming the leader of the world economy.?
> 
> History may eventually register, 77 years after the end of WWII, that neocon/neoliberalcon psychos in Washington silos instigating an inter-Slavic war by ordering Kiev to launch a blitzkrieg against Donbass was the spark that led to the Fall of the U.S. Empire.
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Antiwar libertarian hero Scott Horton has a viral?tweet?going around which reads simply, "Biden's refusal to attempt to negotiate an end to the war in Ukraine is the greatest scandal in American political history."

Kind of smacks you in the face, doesn't it? I've never seen anyone put it quite like that before, but if you think about it, how could it not be true?

It's just a simple fact that the Biden administration is actually?hindering?diplomatic efforts?to?negotiate an end to this war, and that it?has refused?to provide Ukraine with any kind of diplomatic negotiating power regarding the possible rollback of sanctions and other US measures to help secure peace. Washington's top diplomats have consistently been?conspicuously absent?from any kind of dialogue with their counterparts in Moscow.?

Statements?from the administration?in fact indicate that they expect this war to?drag on for a long time, making it abundantly clear that a swift end to minimize the death and destruction is not just uninteresting but undesirable for the US empire.
Scott Horton @scotthortonshowBiden's refusal to attempt to negotiate an end to the war in Ukraine is the greatest scandal in American political history.
May 5th 2022
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And this isn't just another war. This is a proxy war being waged by one of the world's two top nuclear forces against the world's other top nuclear force. This is more serious than Iraq. It is more serious than Vietnam. It is more serious than any US war that has happened in the lifetime of anyone likely to be reading these words, because Russia has increasingly valid reasons to believe its very existence as a nation is being threatened. This is therefore a war that could very easily result in?the death of everyone on earth.

The US Secretary of "Defense"?has openly said?that America's goal is to "weaken" Russia in this war. Biden himself has made statements which?can only be interpreted?as calls for regime change in Moscow. US officials have been leaking to the press claims that US intelligence has directly facilitated the?killing of Russian generals?and the?sinking of a Russian war ship.

The imperial political/media class are not even denying that this is a US proxy war anymore. In an alarmingly rapid pivot from the mass media's earlier position that calling this a proxy war is merely an "accusation" promoted solely?by Russia, we're now seeing the use of that term becoming more and more common in authorized news outlets.?The New Yorker?came right out?and declared that the US is in "a full proxy war with Russia" the other day, and US congressman Seth Moulton recently?told Fox News?that the US is at war with Russia through a proxy.

"At the end of the day, we've got to realize we're at war, and we're not just at war to support the Ukrainians," Moulton said. "We're fundamentally at war, although it's somewhat through proxy, with Russia. And it's important that we win."
Eli Stein @Fight_Back_NYCWait what? We are officially in a proxy war with Russia? Did anyone sign up for this? 
May 2nd 2022
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How fast did that happen? How fast were we paced from "It's Russian propaganda to call this a proxy war" to "Obviously this is a proxy war and we need to make sure we win"? Fast enough to make your head spin, that's for sure.

And it's not just a proxy war, it's a proxy war the US knowingly provoked. We know now that the US intelligence cartel had clear vision into Russia's plans to launch this invasion, which means they also knew how to prevent it. A few low-cost maneuvers like?promising not to add Ukraine to NATO?as well as promising Zelensky that the US would protect him and his government from the violent fascist factions who were?threatening to kill him?if he honored the Minsk agreements and made peace with Russia as Ukrainians elected him to do. That's all it would have taken.

Many, many western experts?warned for many years?that the actions of the US and NATO would lead to the confrontation we're now being menaced with. There was every opportunity to turn away from this war, and instead the US-centralized empire hit the accelerator and drove right into it. Knowingly.

The whole thing was premeditated. All with the goal of weakening Russia and effecting regime change in Moscow in order to?secure US unipolar hegemony.
Arnaud Bertrand @RnaudBertrandMost fascinating thing about the Ukraine war is the sheer number of top strategic thinkers who warned for years that it was coming if we continued down the same path.No-one listened to them and here we are.Small compilation ? of these warnings, from Kissinger to Mearsheimer.
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The Biden administration was the last in a?long line?of decision makers to choose this world-threatening confrontation over peace. There was an opportunity to avert this horror, and that opportunity wasn't taken.

Allowing the world to come this close to nuclear war already makes Biden the worst US president since Bush. At least. History may well show his to be the single most depraved presidency of all time.

Preventing nuclear war is a US president's single most important job. It's so important you shouldn't even really have to talk about it, because it's so self-evidently the number one priority. And this administration is just?rolling the dice on nuclear conflict?with increasing frequency every day.

Even if humanity survives this standoff (and the one with China that's?next in line), Biden will still have been an unforgivably depraved president for allowing it to get this close. There's no excuse whatsoever for just casually rolling the dice on all terrestrial life like this.

Just seriously meditating on what nuclear war is and what it means should be enough to show anyone that any flirtation with the remotest possibility of inflicting it on our world is unforgivable. It's the worst crime anyone could possibly commit short of actual nuclear war.

Now all we can do is hope some small spark of sanity ignites deep within our species before we snuff ourselves out for good.

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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Sun May  8 15:28:16 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2022 11:28:16 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] The Stranger [Seattle]: Rep. Adam Smith Could Help
 Stop the War in Yemen by Cosponsoring a New Bill,
 but Right Now He's Still Thinkin' on It
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Please spread this all around. Especially to anyone you know who lives in
Seattle.

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2022/05/06/72620997/rep-adam-smith-could-help-stop-the-war-in-yemen-by-cosponsoring-a-new-bill-but-right-now-hes-still-thinkin-on-it


Rep. Adam Smith Could Help Stop the War in Yemen by Cosponsoring a New
Bill, but Right Now He's Still Thinkin' on It


by Rich Smith ? May 6, 2022 at 6:25 pm


This past March, the United States marked its eighth year of support for a
Saudi-led war in Yemen that has *killed*
<http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/10/yemen-civilian-deaths-double-since-un-monitors-removed-ngo-says>
nearly 400,000 people and pushed millions to the brink of starvation.
There's a bunch of bad stuff going on in the world right now, but the
United Nations *calls* <http://www.wfp.org/yemen-crisis> the situation in
Yemen "the world's worst humanitarian crisis."


In his capacity as chair of the House Armed Services Committee,
Seattle-area Congressman Adam Smith holds *immense power*
<http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2021/08/20/60552153/its-past-time-to-end-us-support-for-the-war-in-yemen>
in ending this ongoing crisis. Earlier this week a coalition of local and
Washington state organizations sent him a *letter*
<http://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1-zVA3l1tCOFSfw03j8aBQGaS6EBVoW5YjWKeUcpj0Qo/mobilebasic>
asking him to support a bill that could do just that. So far, he remains
"open" but noncommittal to the legislation, which seems odd given his
previous support for nearly identical proposals, and odd given general
support for the bill from a number of slightly less hawkish members of the
foreign policy establishment.


In their letter, the organizations ? including the Yemen Relief and
Reconstruction Foundation, Country Doctor Community Health Centers, and
various anti-war and progressive groups ? asked Smith to cosponsor a
*forthcoming*
<http://www.thenation.com/article/world/yemen-wars-power-resoultion/?utm_source=P%26S%3A+Drone+News+Roundup+%E2%80%94+All&utm_campaign=7040d9c2e1-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_08_01_04_01_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_066db1cbcd-7040d9c2e1-391882509>
War Powers Resolution to end U.S. military participation in the Saudi
attacks on Yemen.


The legislation, which fellow Western Washingtonian Rep. Pramila Jayapal
and Oregon Rep. Peter DeFazio will introduce soon, basically mirrors the
language of proposed amendments to the 2020-22 versions of the National
Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that would have "terminated" all US
logistical support, intelligence sharing, spare parts transfers, and
maintenance of Saudi warplanes.


The country uses the planes to conduct air raids in Yemen. As the
organizers note, this January Saudi planes hit a migrant detention facility
and a telecoms facility, *killing*
<http://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/death-toll-rises-91-yemen-detention-centre-strike-houthi-minister-2022-01-25/>
at least 60 people, injuring more than 200, and triggering *a four-day
internet outage*
<http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/25/yemens-internet-returns-after-airstrike-causes-4-day-blackout>
across the country.


Foreign policy *experts*
<http://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/03/21/numbers-dont-lie-more-saudi-attacks-on-yemen-came-after-new-us-support/>
agree that Saudi Arabia cannot keep its planes in the air if the US stops
fixing them up when they land, so President Joe Biden's signature on this
bill would ground the Saudi air force, prevent them from continuing to wage
this war, and end the naval and arial blockades that sank nearly 20 million
Yemenis into food insecurity. In short, it could end the world's worst
humanitarian crisis.


But Rep. Smith is still thinkin' on it. Over the phone, he said he hasn't
signed onto the legislation because the sponsors haven?t introduced it yet.
When asked why not sign on as an original cosponsor given his previous
support for similar legislation, he said he's seen some drafts and has a
couple concerns. One of those concerns involves procedure, and the other
involves strategy. Both concerns perplex me for different reasons; his
procedural concern seems ironic, and his strategic concern contradicts
previous votes he's taken on the issue.

His procedural concerns involves the vehicle of the legislation and its
language. Rather than stick the policy in a bill that runs through the
regular process of committee meetings and markups, the current prime
sponsors used a joint resolution under the War Powers Act of 1973, a law
Congress passed after Vietnam to reduce the President's power to make war
without Congressional oversight. Essentially, this vehicle fast-tracks the
legislation to the House and Senate floors, and then, if successful, up to
the President's desk. Most importantly, the proposal's language defines
spare parts transfers and maintenance of Saudi warplanes as "hostilities"
under the War Powers Act's definition of the term. Smith said he's
concerned "but not overwhelmingly concerned" about passage of this bill
"potentially setting a precedent" that would lead to Congress weighing in
more often in this speedy way when it comes to other conflicts around the
world where US personnel keep warplanes up and running.

Smith's concern here seems somewhat minor and strange given his position.
Successful passage of the bill could motivate other members of Congress to
try to shut down US "hostilities" in other wars around the globe, but those
Reps would still need to rally support to end our involvement in whichever
conflict was at issue. Given how long it's taken to get the US even this
close to ending its complicity with literally the worst thing happening on
the planet, rallying that support seems like a heavy lift. Furthermore,
it's unclear why the chair of the House Armed Services Committee would
worry about setting a precedent that would give Congress (and,
theoretically, the people) *more power *in deciding when the US does war
stuff. But, ya know, to each his own.

Smith said a letter written in July of 2021 by Oxfam, Mercy Corps, the
Norwegian Refugee Council, and other groups informs his strategic concerns.
In the letter, those groups argued that the pressure on the Saudi's worked
to reduce air strikes but embolden the Houthis, who they blame for keeping
the war going and for poaching the humanitarian aid sent to the country.
"We are concerned that any Congressional engagement that ignores these
changes and assigns US defense assistance substantial responsibility for
driving the conflict and the humanitarian crisis would be
counterproductive. Such engagement relieves pressure and diverts scrutiny
from the armed actors who continue to put their own military and political
interests ahead of the survival of the Yemeni people," they wrote.

Despite the views expressed in that letter, Smith, as *The Stranger*
<http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2021/09/21/61348967/congressman-smith-takes-important-step-to-effectively-end-us-support-for-war-in-yemen>
reported at the time, boldly went on to support an amendment in the NDAA
that would end US logistical support for the war, which, if successful,
would certainly have counted as "Congressional engagement" on the matter.
The amendment, however, ended up failing, likely due to opposition from the
Biden Administration.

Smith acknowledged the discrepancy between signing onto the NDAA amendment
in 2021 despite concerns from those groups and weighing those concerns more
heavily now, but said "I was troubled by it then, and I'm troubled by it
now," adding that Oxfam and Mercy Corps have not changed their position on
this issue. He also emphasized that he's still just working through his
thought process, and added that he'd received another draft of the
legislation's language today. "I?m going to look at it. This is a process,"
he said.

"I want peace in Yemen. I don?t want the Houthis to win. I don?t want the
Saudis to win. I want peace," he said.

While Rep. Smith continues to deliberate, others prominent members of the
national security establishment are signing on. California Rep. Adam
Schiff, who chairs the House Intelligence Committee, signed onto the
resolution as a cosponsor. And if that guy doesn't have problems with
precedent or with emboldening the Houthis in a war they've *pretty much
already won*
<http://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2022/02/01/the-houthis-have-won-in-yemen-what-next/>,
then it's not clear who else should. And, of course, closer to home, more
than a dozen anti-war organizations think Smith shouldn?t have a problem
with any of that either. If there?s some other constituency at play here,
Smith didn?t mention them.

That said, even if the bill gets through the House, President Biden's
recalcitrance on this issue and a 50-50 Senate will be sizable hurdles to
jump.

Rich Smith

Rich Smith is The Stranger's associate editor. He writes about politics,
books, and performance. You can read his poems at www.richsmithpoetry.com
<https://richsmithpoetry.com/>
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> Live Action Founder and President Lila Rose recently appeared on Tucker Carlson Tonight to discuss the future of abortion in America in light of the leaked draft opinion on Dobbs v Jackson Women?s Health, which calls for the overturning of Roe v Wade.
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>  <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VX1s_Z6kd5ZvW7ywrgV6_WJ_RW78L4Hk4JTP10N8rPF572-TkQV1-WJV7CgBysV3W6Ps7t9YqcW8d8_mM3gtmknW4rDhDN5vfgDdW2zd32G2dwkTdW8GqjLX2RfKzKW3TWk9R3Yns3vW8fCYB02J-2wMW66Vg6c3MxwpPW3DTyXc7gnz13W8hVpJw5sV3YvW3cbKJL4l6W4zVrYyBx54jr89W5c5_ff6PB2n4W6d1S_J534n9TVqVjln4WKDJkW8D652p1w9r-YW8NFRT_57-cs0W7XbNcv5zV1PpN7kXVB9TDFjVW6FB9ns6GT_ggVRvL_56QFjTQW4CxtCc7HVWvP31JX1>
>  	 
> Debunked: The Illogical ?I?m Pro-Becky? Meme That Excuses the Homicide of Preborn Children <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VX1s_Z6kd5ZvW7ywrgV6_WJ_RW78L4Hk4JTP10N8rPF572-TkQV1-WJV7CgSt_VTzQcH282PknVdSKy72n3W1SW2lLfzr20Vqg2W2kVFCQ69zCf9W6kzNMt7m2qM6W9jDVbN5j3QlLW2l-BcF6Gs92sW5hDZRK9jYq_6W2dBNJN87t2g8W2shBNF25LvPQN7vqfhq98jp3N1cmF5mQXcS0W3sH9bX8NTWXhV6km5w98HSXhN3lzJJq9gJflW79RYvN2YCHtbW302t9t1YRqXWW2sMB9X8x6l6bW75CYCh7FVzXrW6vy3Lk72L5wrW5p4pvs6n8QJQW5M4rHd8lBt3d348h1>
>  <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VX1s_Z6kd5ZvW7ywrgV6_WJ_RW78L4Hk4JTP10N8rPF4S2-TkwV1-WJV7CgWwXVLMWmQ1mHrfNN1fPvtr7vv2PV6sF-x8W_pcsW1J5Q7W6MwptBW5Y7Z_j14sN1QW2Rp-NX3sjF8YW5yGNmV2lxyL0W4GsLMq2mJsnBV2BvFc7mRN5fW5KZjwY2H1d8hW4kh3MG8JKjhLW1QdcDD6psgmjW41-C8P2X-Z0LW6S2Wxp32P9-pVkHthv7vFx1MW3DX-C34fhm4qW8bhwZv7YP3JdW6bbPcP57ZrnjW8Jmcc25kmyDXW1BCxYj4Hx53B33yM1> <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VX1s_Z6kd5ZvW7ywrgV6_WJ_RW78L4Hk4JTP10N8rPF572-TkQV1-WJV7CgXywW5Dx2jZ8QXl0kN3nW4bbT5XJyW2c0qw21JhC4KVcbMkm79FdltW5LZGvw8BP7DyW8R842g1dmQ5KW1Ctgrh4qr_44W4FQCqJ2Nv4NCW5n99Cc6bR-bvVfTT-v5HRr2nW6NKqm36NfWKCN4cfFCvh_YthN8Qh54W2MWXZW5RtWVF7tr5bZW86Jq058cKnWsW7Jt2455XgxgJW5cdJLM8sbFCqW8R66Gr1QW-3PW1mSJb65J3tsxVQVlDb2xv1KLW55y7td1lX9c1W86k3Yw6w_gnd3jv41>
>  
> The writer claims that she is ?not pro-murdering babies.? However, she then lists various scenarios using hypothetical women whom she says are in situations where they should be allowed to murder their preborn babies.
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>  	 
> When People Learn, They Change: ?Pro-Choice? People See Abortion, Call It ?Torture? and ?Cruel? <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VX1s_Z6kd5ZvW7ywrgV6_WJ_RW78L4Hk4JTP10N8rPF572-TkQV1-WJV7CgTmjW2H49nq6J5BGMW7W1qsZ12c0tmW1Q5LnY1-tXFXVD3wYg84hSxTW70mlqN5t74pSW2kHlTk7f39r7W2HX4R16f0sV8W6nSgKL6gQQK4W8XW08J5sJpNvW8g8zmy1WvZWhW5SVzPV740QPlW2CHJy036YS7YW4DQPjP3qdHqmN5KF6N1QMWt3N2_XJ8yyybyQW6Pz5hy6mhT32W9lkynp3GYyGVW7y5nVR379NTyW92hsBZ7n6bPKW8zGnB62vykpQMQtBlKxvnT1W5FmMLt46_rsf3kF51>
>  
> For many years, those with a pro-abortion agenda have been successful at downplaying the truth about abortion. [...] Live Action?s Abortion Procedures videos have caused everyday Americans to change their minds about abortion once they are educated about the reality of abortion procedures
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>  	 	 
> Get the Facts: Illegal Abortion Did Not Lead to Thousands of Women?s Deaths <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VX1s_Z6kd5ZvW7ywrgV6_WJ_RW78L4Hk4JTP10N8rPF572-TkQV1-WJV7CgVXFW6Ljv0-7nGfgdN2vC-n9D-n06W8g_2HF6ksKg0W5Q6y1D64djk_V-qcrg2ZdWxWMng8wcpLv3RW6c_-WR64CLQhW8SlR8y6KcnQ6W7Yv4w62xcP2lW5Fj0P89h3f0lW704kC35S_Mg3W6cGTTG8GbYhsW7-jNcP85nTYhW3xQsxR60GGwgW7TJslK8FhTs0W1LcRxc8DBxLHN73kswTrTmgSW75JWQW72rHcXW23cPX26mbWHhW3vX23-4LzZblW74ppnP6Z7FwDW6tqKNZ5r43by31M21>
>  
> The fabricated statistics came from those who wanted to manipulate the public?s emotions to decriminalize abortion. We know this because former NARAL co-founder Bernard Nathanson admitted that the 5,000-10,000 annual death statistic fed to the public and media in the late 1960s was completely made up.
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>  <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VX1s_Z6kd5ZvW7ywrgV6_WJ_RW78L4Hk4JTP10N8rPF572-TkQV1-WJV7CgWBBW1dS4pJ3c9ZhYW7XwNhv6xX3gLW23gwsV3ZtYXTW1YYn9z1jB8QGW49pYdv2zLspLW3MxXHS7ZGvSVW4CMc_X17yNZsVR6mln6Lgj6PW403n0W5YT2F3W6JKjVb5XCkswW74fr8B2vgsxyW52dysw84sq1XW41K2Dk2k3fwCVtrLR918fdtXW7tZCjV7d0Sf6W8x187k9lh0xkW3pl9c-6N3pZtVRF1QL9c6gDWW83K2fW7W77lZW8mnX-j5X7SHjW54SxgQ3BvBtqW7BQrzC7yVk8y37jj1>
>  	 	 
> What Happens if the Supreme Court Overturns Roe v. Wade? <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VX1s_Z6kd5ZvW7ywrgV6_WJ_RW78L4Hk4JTP10N8rPF572-TkQV1-WJV7CgZ0cV5wyrg1MymqnW9cHV718wzb9qW88mydt1ygJTZW6gd7f26D02x5W6RKL098n-fbMN3w4plvjFQ1bW7_QMrw4RvMWvN3w88g1ckLbkW104xx26sJHV5W987NxJ7HpZWxVdcB6F3B-zjwW26cSRZ4--p7LW2zcBfK29M4wRW8vxb8088FtQ4N4GtdJXhXqXZVKnhxY3CPJK7W24NtPl512QCkW888yH37xqnXvW5S59QH8D1wBqW18czbH4vyj4qW4kXwwM8vY0pbW396tN97GXd3132gX1>
>  
> Some have worried that ending Roe would mean women immediately lose access to abortion, that women could face criminal penalties, and that they wouldn?t be able to access certain types of health care. Many of the ongoing concerns are overblown or false.
> Read more
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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Tue May 10 18:10:27 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 13:10:27 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Florida mom shares story of adopting abortion
 survivor
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: Live Action News <info at liveaction.org>
> Subject: Florida mom shares story of adopting abortion survivor
> Date: May 10, 2022 at 12:42:17 PM CDT
> To: cgestabrook at gmail.com
> Reply-To: info at liveaction.org
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>  <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VW5kly73FX0PW2tm-p_23XZ4hW4FBnYy4JWPLxN880g2N2-TjXV1-WJV7CgLmYW6T2lyX7n5fY7W4nPbJz6x--rRW7ScGqq8W9th5N7gw7HQSgXJ3W5lyjQp3dQhNCW2JFby58_Ww1lVXYRpm8Kvpv7W3cT6MJ7SV_sPV8tKTL1qvNk5W35QbsL3wZWQfW6wYrPY4BKb6gV_nvq62QQTWtW23TNY1646X-QW5tQFn225Dn5MW5V5nr66Z4YfMW7Hthqf1-G7BW3hT31>
> CG, 
>  
> We hope your week is going well so far!
>  	 
> Florida Mom Shares Story of Adopting Abortion Survivor <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VW5kly73FX0PW2tm-p_23XZ4hW4FBnYy4JWPLxN880g3m2-TkwV1-WJV7CgNWhVMSwN14NhK4SW65zNwm4tm5QHW2hK1Cl80KYcGW2wLXPP4v_3zPW2x8y7T4y79s8W7_HMZd7xt745W5VCnWj8dPk7zW2HZJsS8TWRsMW1p2KrN81QjJrW6xd66t616nY6W4jRX_Z94CWV4N2wpz5b5yln-W4ntzSk1l-jfSW92MD_03yPQ5cW7QCyxJ5mfGpnW7WvjvN17nDYTV3nnzk1ql03pW5jRKCM2NWvCrW90pLSj2RFGZKW85VDq-6PBGpn3fRk1> <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VW5kly73FX0PW2tm-p_23XZ4hW4FBnYy4JWPLxN880g3G2-TkQV1-WJV7CgNhwMksF7GZ1pcKW4MTC6_3y6ZBZW8GVwt-1gybNTW6bFq6N1grWvpW2tK93W5DcN41W2p5Mvw9kC33xW3YfkV33J_N9WW8vDnFW3r3MvsW8zjsJP4Wn-RLW9bbdpm3HFxF7W1cs2B_3391PhW3j__WX5Ty0zpW8PY7Fy4fNl8yW8-gXZS44Sk37W3GtZYr3WZT9SW5wb0Kd3Wz6_LTQy9d7vjM17W18WbHw14W45rW7fpfpb2N43KcW4Zhp-Y2_FYJVW1hY9Qf5GgWF2W7lYH2h2TLL7N3fQR1>
>  
> Tonya, Hope?s birth mother, was a 22-year-old single mother of two when she learned she was pregnant again. She had a first-trimester abortion, which she believed to be successful. A couple of months later, Tonya realized the abortion had failed when she began feeling movement in her womb.
> Read more
>  <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VW5kly73FX0PW2tm-p_23XZ4hW4FBnYy4JWPLxN880g3m2-TkwV1-WJV7CgKV4W8dHXw29hL1xpW8HJ6h11pP0KVW26Tk-x93mtXMW3C7PNx2BQPYrW2G1qVY1nrxRdW6d9TzC3Fn495W3cr2K87nK3K0W3QGvMW7h3hzsW2vmL4z1dRlQ_W30Z-Tn6NcnmZW5yVJPd8Nsg50W2L0fmb49l8nGW4xLWv41sSrcLN5CfK8hgrksKW2Q0Yt366pCsPW96sbGb6wxSkXW1dFz9m8sC0jnW1ZDRpf5h1H_7W6Ym3pK1R7MCHMqLPgWgL4kb3f_61>
>  	 
> In Wake of Supreme Court Draft Overturning Roe, Episcopal Church Reaffirms Abortion Support <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VW5kly73FX0PW2tm-p_23XZ4hW4FBnYy4JWPLxN880g3G2-TkQV1-WJV7CgMQdW21kTvZ6b3v0dW13GHsw27Fz8RW7Dz11n2Kc6HBW2jwRhG2HC-19W8tf1Hc757cbqW5ZGXMb5PxQzqW3JkySM2FSc-jW4Dv7Py30d_nHW803Rvn6FYc88W6HCKKL96GQLvW3vypDx6by130W99dV8n7T0xgVV1PCnt40M1MLN1dvXbCGYlvSW6LSzHT3xPpZ9W36-qlh2538StW6M3My23lTQB-W6jvk6W4KFsbXW8g_xs93N97CdW6sSMjc4lCPkFW1bp3GH3ST02YN95Z1QYnQ3qK3cJ91>
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>  
> Several leaders in the Episcopal Church reaffirmed their pro-abortion stance in the wake of a leaked draft that indicates the Supreme Court may soon overturn Roe v. Wade, with one leader calling those who oppose abortion ?extremists.?
> Read more
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>  
> The Human Life Protection Act, House Bill 598, outlaws nearly all abortions, including those resulting from rape or incest. If it passes the legislature and is signed by Gov. Mike DeWine, it would only go into effect should the Supreme Court put the ability to regulate abortion back in the hands of the states ? a possibility that seems closer than ever.
> Read more
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>  	 	 
> Senate to Vote This Week on Making Abortion a ?Right,? Overruling All State Protections for Preborn <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/VW5kly73FX0PW2tm-p_23XZ4hW4FBnYy4JWPLxN880g3Z2-Tl5V1-WJV7CgVSbW4dL7lB6YgyHcW78z2M341H4HxW3469kn59jsRNW8Q-1kQ2jQByJW8Vc06Q6t-TwQW5RxDk97K0-L7W7t3wFx6HV_2fVG-z_m2mdL3HW2lMyyt1vCGmsVsC6Rd4Fln6cN1PsRWh9_CL3W1dhNSn6B4xT-W7SmbRq5Z5jByW12GJDd5t0y5BW580qb03nkTH0MgT9pbGDnHHW8GDbpy4MhGLxV8b98y70kWNsW7Kh1m67nnrM8W3bmRGp8hZY58W1mMLwV3dKXhkM1VmRKVHYxxW9k0Q4z69MbssW1clCB44n2hr435dc1>
>  
> The pro-abortion effort to pass the Women?s Health Protection Act has been presumed as ?destined to fail? by The Washington Post, but that has not stopped pro-abortion lawmakers from attempting to push it forward in an election year.
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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Tue May 10 22:13:56 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 17:13:56 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Answers to arguments you are hearing
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> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Lauren Bielinski <lauren.bielinski at liveaction.org>
> Subject: Answers to arguments you are hearing
> Date: May 10, 2022 at 5:10:34 PM CDT
> To: cgestabrook at gmail.com
> Reply-To: lauren.bielinski at liveaction.org
> 
> CG,
>  
> Since the SCOTUS draft opinion leaked last week, you?ve probably seen or heard many concerned people, saying they think women "need" to be able to kill their preborn children via abortion for certain specific reasons. 
>  
> And many are saying these reasons - such as rape or medical conditions - are why we have to keep abortion legal.
>  
> When you hear these arguments, I encourage you to engage in these discussions, to lean into the challenging conversations online and in person ?
>  
> And, we have a resource to equip you in these conversations!
>  
> We have a video series called ?Pro-Life Replies? <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/MVQz27wQp_SW4DGgNx97pvKGW1c61D74JXb8RN5l4bhQ2-TkcV1-WJV7CgRjRW6FTcMd77MyHkN3lFb63mk_pdM3_182Ft2y8W7d0KWG12QCQ2W970Mr-4Phb4TW1mv41H2KlZZkW3__Qbx8Ffz6kVHl0jM6KMRYYN5P8BxrD3JrMW7S6sYD1f20GnW3yzx-z8bmnfdW8yqJJk12-Jh0W5qNSx_8rpCXbW156k879gsMg3W64MPXB4plF-yV3bxyD7-W5TGW1jdJsC6v87qtW38hbYZ821SSD37Fg1> to answer some of these most common pro-abortion arguments.
>  
> Here are just a few of the video topics:
> How to Reply to: "Women Will Die From Illegal Abortions"
> How to Reply to: "Abortion In Cases of Rape"
> How to Reply to: "Abortion Can Be Medically Necessary"
> How to Reply to: "My Body, My Choice"
> Watch the videos here:
> https://prolifereplies.liveaction.org/ <https://cpkky04.na1.hubspotlinks.com/Ctc/ON+113/cpKKY04/MVQz27wQp_SW4DGgNx97pvKGW1c61D74JXb8RN5l4bhQ2-TkcV1-WJV7CgSxLW6_GN_87zr8M5W5t_Gbd5HNWvxW2kck531LdqdNW3cB2lc93RB7DW4FXWr_5m9rJSW4NyB7x7nlH68W8d49qG1NsNZ9W3FgGvl9j_pTkW4KmznR2_vFjhVz0S4w8BQwpkV9_M2n41t2JjW7Ybxx471t4F9W78MCDv1fVdzvW3WdjRq8rPp_LW5lZj7w6GX8zYW1svBlq6jV-ryN2zCVwvw5qKjN3VJL2t8Dyy035fL1> 
>  
> CG, your voice is needed right now.
>  
> Here's the overall heart of the matter: Abortion is never healthcare because intentionally killing an innocent human is never healthcare.
>  
> Any other medical procedure that a woman might need during pregnancy is NOT abortion as long as it does not involve intentionally killing her preborn child.
>  
> Overturning Roe would only mean the intentional killing of a child in the womb can be prohibited by state laws now. Nothing else. No other medical procedure will be affected.
>  
> Allowing the states to decide is a step in the right direction, but still does not end abortion to the point of making it completely illegal and unthinkable everywhere - which is our ultimate goal.
> 
> CG, these difficult conversations about abortion are highly important to engage in now more than ever. 
>  
> In our nation, in your community, maybe even in your family, you have the opportunity to speak up for defenseless preborn children and for men and women who need to hear the truth about abortion.
>  
> Thank you for boldly using your voice to speak the truth! 
>  
> For Life,
>  
> Lauren Bielinski
> VP of Strategic Partnerships
> 
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From moboct1 at aim.com  Wed May 11 18:48:36 2022
From: moboct1 at aim.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 18:48:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Her camera was a weapon???
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To J. B. Nicholson at peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
Encl. suggestion for discussion on Neptune.? Sad...
Midge O'Brien


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To: Midge O'Brien <moboct1 at aim.com>
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2022 11:43 am
Subject: Her camera was a weapon???

 CODEPINK - Communications#yiv5283189115 h1 {font-family:Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;line-height:46px;font-weight:bold;}#yiv5283189115 #yiv5283189115 p {font-family:Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;color:#333333;line-height:26px;font-size:17px;}#yiv5283189115 ul {font-family:Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;color:#333333;line-height:26px;font-size:17px;}#yiv5283189115 li {font-family:Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;color:#333333;line-height:26px;font-size:17px;}#yiv5283189115 tr {font-family:Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;color:#333333;line-height:26px;font-size:17px;}#yiv5283189115 td {font-family:Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;color:#333333;line-height:26px;font-size:17px;}#yiv5283189115 a {color:#630084;text-decoration:none;}Demandjustice for Palestinian-American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, shotdead by the Israeli military. today?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????   
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Demandjustice for Palestinian-American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, shotdead by the Israeli military.

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Dear Midge,

51-year-oldPalestinian-American Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh wascovering an Israeli military raid in the Jenin refugee camp thismorning when soldiers shot her in the face and killed her.Both her blue protective vest and her helmet were clearly marked?PRESS.??

Demandthe U.S. State Department conduct a thorough investigation and theimmediate suspension of U.S. military aid.

In avideo showing the aftermath of Shireen being shot, a man can be heardyelling, ?Injured! Shireen, Shireen, oh man, Shireen!Ambulance!? Al Jazeera journalist Shatha Hanaysha, alsowearing a helmet and vest marked as press, can be seen crouching downtrying to reach Shireen but being forced back by Israeli gunfire.The soldiers ?did not stop firing even after shecollapsed,? Hanaysha said. ?I couldn?t even extend my arm topull her because of the shots. The army was adamant onshooting to kill.?

Following their killing of Shireen,the Israeli military took to Twitter to announce that they wereinvestigating the possibility that Shireen had been killed ?byPalestinian armed gunfire.? The Israeli Foreign Ministry offered toconduct a joint investigation with the Palestinian Authority andIsraeli military spokesperson Kochav Ran on Army radio accused her andher colleagues of being ? armed withcameras.?

?I encourage a thoroughinvestigation into the circumstances of her death and the injury of atleast one other journalist today in Jenin,? tweeted U.S. AmbassadorTom Nides. But, he didn?t specify that Israel must not be allowed toinvestigate and exonerate itself as has happened far too manytimes.?

Callon the U.S. State Department to require a full investigation ? not byIsrael ? into the grotesque and blatant murder of ShireenAbu Akleh. The U.S. must immediately suspend militaryaid to Israel pending the investigation.

Unfortunately, there's more. As thePalestinian people and advocacy community were mourning Shireen?sdeath, Israeli police descended upon Shireen?s family home where theyconfiscated the Palestinian flags flying outside. Elsewhere thismorning, Israeli bulldozers started to forcibly displace the MasaferYatta Palestinian villages in the South Hebron hills.??

The Biden administrationhas repeatedly said that it iscommitted to equal measures of freedom, security, dignity, and prosperity for Palestinians andIsraelis. But, in the words of author and activist Grace Paley, ?theonly recognizable feature of hope is action.? JoinCODEPINK in calling for action. Demand justice forShireen.

Ariel and the entire CODEPINK team: Ann, Clay, Danaka,Emily, Farida, Justina, Jodie, Kelly, Leonardo, Marcy, Mark, Medea,Michelle, Nancy, Olivia, Paki,? Sam, Samantha, Teri, Shea, andSuzie

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From moboct1 at aol.com  Wed May 11 18:56:48 2022
From: moboct1 at aol.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 18:56:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: [OUTRAGEOUS] Israel Brutally Murders
 Palestinian-American Al Jazeera Journalist Shireen Abu Akleh
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More coverage on Israeli murder of Palestinian-American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh
Midge O'Brien


-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Osama Abuirshaid, AMP <info at ampalestine.org>
To: Midge O'Brien <moboct1 at aol.com>
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Subject: [OUTRAGEOUS] Israel Brutally Murders Palestinian-American Al Jazeera Journalist Shireen Abu Akleh

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 Israeli Occupation Forces murdered Abu Akleh as she covered an Israeli raid in the occupied West Bank town of Jenin 
 
 Dear?Midge, 
 
 As the world learns of the Israeli Occupation Forces? brutal assassination of Al Jazeera journalist and Palestinian-American Shireen Abu Akleh, American Muslims for Palestine (AMP) extends its sincere condolences to Shireen's family, Al Jazeera, and the entire Palestinian media family. 
 
 Today, AMP demands that the Biden administration condemn Israel?s murder of a U.S. citizen and well-renowned journalist, ensuring that Israel pays the price for the brutal assassination of a fellow American, and courageous human being. 
 
  
 
 How quickly would the Biden administration and the State Department react to the murder of a U.S. citizen and journalist in any other country around the globe? What would the condemnations look like? Would we consider sanctions? AMP urges U.S. officials to act with consistency. 
 
 So far, the U.S. response has been disgraceful. Abu Akleh was an American citizen, murdered in cold blood by a state that receives billions of dollars in American taxpayer funding every year. It is likely that Abu Akleh was shot by an American subsidized weapon and bullet, paid for by our tax dollars.? 
 
 State Dept. spokesperson, Ned Price, stated ?We are heartbroken by and strongly condemn the killing of American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh in the West Bank. The investigation must be immediate and thorough and those responsible must be held accountable. Her death is an affront to media freedom everywhere.? This is not enough! 
 
 Demanding an ?investigation? into the murder of an American on foreign soil is only a slap on the wrist. Without proper accountability coming from the U.S. as an ally, Israel will continue to terrorize the Palestinian people, make a mockery of international law, and continue to disrespect the United States which provides it with a lifeline.? 
 
 Day in and day out, Israel proves its ugly and brutal nature. It believes that it?s a state above well-established international law, not subject to the same standards and values as the international community. 
 
 Israel is not satisfied with the war crimes it commits every day against the tormented Palestinian people. It?s not satisfied with the amount of civilian blood that it sheds. It?s not satisfied with the ongoing demolition of Palestinian homes and businesses, not to mention the displacement of thousands in the process. It?s not satisfied with imprisoning thousands of Palestinians, including women and children, old and young. It?s not satisfied with its collective punishment of Palestinians in the Occupied West Bank, nor its brutal siege and blockade of nearly two million Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. It?s not satisfied with the massive theft of Palestinian lands and the establishment of illegal settlements.? 
 
 Israel is more than an apartheid settler-colonial regime; it?s a rogue state that is rebellious against every value that defines humanity. It?s a pariah and a terrorist state that must be treated as such. 
 
 Israel and its supporters and apologists are keen to silence the voices of truth, suppressing and targeting anyone who dares to speak against its criminal behavior. Shireen is only the latest victim in a long list of journalists murdered by Israel.? 
 
 The description is of the essence: Israeli occupation forces murdered Abu Akleh with a bullet to the head while she was covering Israeli raids of the West Bank city of Jenin. Abu Akleh was wearing a PRESS vest, clearly identifying herself as a journalist, but Israel?s record on freedom of the press speaks for itself: a case study of apartheid within journalism.? 
 
 Israel succeeded in killing a messenger of the truth, as millions mourn a woman who broke barriers and emerged in the early 2000s as a brilliant voice on the ground in Palestine. However, Israel continues to fail in killing the message and the truth.? 
 
 The U.S. has played a primary role in supporting Israeli occupation and settler colonialism over the past 8 decades. That?s why it must transform into a responsible and consistent player, curbing Israel's terrorism, trailblazing, and steering clear of complicity in its crimes.? 
 
 We cannot stand against aggression in Ukraine and be complicit in it with respect to Palestinians. If the U.S. and the West truly believe Russia is committing war crimes in Ukraine, then they should apply the same standard to Israel's actions in occupied Palestine. Selective humanity and morality are inhumane, immoral, and undemocratic. 
 
 This complicity must end! 
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   Dr. Osama Abuirshaid  
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From moboct1 at aol.com  Wed May 11 20:42:59 2022
From: moboct1 at aol.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 20:42:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: [OUTRAGEOUS] Israel Brutally Murders
 Palestinian-American Al Jazeera Journalist Shireen Abu Akleh
In-Reply-To: <955971843.1230943.1652295408481@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <acc1911d-b820-4955-b384-14ccfd9b1d9a@salsalabs.org>
 <955971843.1230943.1652295408481@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1291710162.1255492.1652301779845@mail.yahoo.com>

THE MOST SHOCKING AND DISGRACEFUL THING ABOUT THIS INDEFENSIBLE MURDER IS (WHAT NPR REPORTED) ISRAEL CLAIMS SHE WAS SHOT BY A PALESTINIAN!
mo'b

-----Original Message-----
From: Mildred O'brien <moboct1 at aol.com>
To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2022 1:56 pm
Subject: Fwd: [OUTRAGEOUS] Israel Brutally Murders Palestinian-American Al Jazeera Journalist Shireen Abu Akleh

More coverage on Israeli murder of Palestinian-American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh
Midge O'Brien


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From: Dr. Osama Abuirshaid, AMP <info at ampalestine.org>
To: Midge O'Brien <moboct1 at aol.com>
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2022 12:18 pm
Subject: [OUTRAGEOUS] Israel Brutally Murders Palestinian-American Al Jazeera Journalist Shireen Abu Akleh

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 Israeli Occupation Forces murdered Abu Akleh as she covered an Israeli raid in the occupied West Bank town of Jenin 
 
 Dear?Midge, 
 
 As the world learns of the Israeli Occupation Forces? brutal assassination of Al Jazeera journalist and Palestinian-American Shireen Abu Akleh, American Muslims for Palestine (AMP) extends its sincere condolences to Shireen's family, Al Jazeera, and the entire Palestinian media family. 
 
 Today, AMP demands that the Biden administration condemn Israel?s murder of a U.S. citizen and well-renowned journalist, ensuring that Israel pays the price for the brutal assassination of a fellow American, and courageous human being. 
 
  
 
 How quickly would the Biden administration and the State Department react to the murder of a U.S. citizen and journalist in any other country around the globe? What would the condemnations look like? Would we consider sanctions? AMP urges U.S. officials to act with consistency. 
 
 So far, the U.S. response has been disgraceful. Abu Akleh was an American citizen, murdered in cold blood by a state that receives billions of dollars in American taxpayer funding every year. It is likely that Abu Akleh was shot by an American subsidized weapon and bullet, paid for by our tax dollars.? 
 
 State Dept. spokesperson, Ned Price, stated ?We are heartbroken by and strongly condemn the killing of American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh in the West Bank. The investigation must be immediate and thorough and those responsible must be held accountable. Her death is an affront to media freedom everywhere.? This is not enough! 
 
 Demanding an ?investigation? into the murder of an American on foreign soil is only a slap on the wrist. Without proper accountability coming from the U.S. as an ally, Israel will continue to terrorize the Palestinian people, make a mockery of international law, and continue to disrespect the United States which provides it with a lifeline.? 
 
 Day in and day out, Israel proves its ugly and brutal nature. It believes that it?s a state above well-established international law, not subject to the same standards and values as the international community. 
 
 Israel is not satisfied with the war crimes it commits every day against the tormented Palestinian people. It?s not satisfied with the amount of civilian blood that it sheds. It?s not satisfied with the ongoing demolition of Palestinian homes and businesses, not to mention the displacement of thousands in the process. It?s not satisfied with imprisoning thousands of Palestinians, including women and children, old and young. It?s not satisfied with its collective punishment of Palestinians in the Occupied West Bank, nor its brutal siege and blockade of nearly two million Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. It?s not satisfied with the massive theft of Palestinian lands and the establishment of illegal settlements.? 
 
 Israel is more than an apartheid settler-colonial regime; it?s a rogue state that is rebellious against every value that defines humanity. It?s a pariah and a terrorist state that must be treated as such. 
 
 Israel and its supporters and apologists are keen to silence the voices of truth, suppressing and targeting anyone who dares to speak against its criminal behavior. Shireen is only the latest victim in a long list of journalists murdered by Israel.? 
 
 The description is of the essence: Israeli occupation forces murdered Abu Akleh with a bullet to the head while she was covering Israeli raids of the West Bank city of Jenin. Abu Akleh was wearing a PRESS vest, clearly identifying herself as a journalist, but Israel?s record on freedom of the press speaks for itself: a case study of apartheid within journalism.? 
 
 Israel succeeded in killing a messenger of the truth, as millions mourn a woman who broke barriers and emerged in the early 2000s as a brilliant voice on the ground in Palestine. However, Israel continues to fail in killing the message and the truth.? 
 
 The U.S. has played a primary role in supporting Israeli occupation and settler colonialism over the past 8 decades. That?s why it must transform into a responsible and consistent player, curbing Israel's terrorism, trailblazing, and steering clear of complicity in its crimes.? 
 
 We cannot stand against aggression in Ukraine and be complicit in it with respect to Palestinians. If the U.S. and the West truly believe Russia is committing war crimes in Ukraine, then they should apply the same standard to Israel's actions in occupied Palestine. Selective humanity and morality are inhumane, immoral, and undemocratic. 
 
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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Wed May 11 21:05:54 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 17:05:54 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Her camera was a weapon???
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Let's see if we can get Dick Durbin to say and do something about this.

Every time we talk to a Congressional office about this, we should
emphasize the fact that she was a U.S. citizen.

Durbin's DC office: 202.224.2152

Chicago office: 312.353.4952

Springfield office: 217.492.4062


On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 2:49 PM Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> To J. B. Nicholson at peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
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> Encl. suggestion for discussion on Neptune.  Sad...
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> Midge O'Brien
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> To: Midge O'Brien <moboct1 at aim.com>
> Sent: Wed, May 11, 2022 11:43 am
> Subject: Her camera was a weapon???
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> Demand justice for Palestinian-American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, shot
> dead by the Israeli military. today
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> Demand justice for Palestinian-American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, shot
> dead by the Israeli military.
>
> <https://www.codepink.org/shireen?e=b0c60deca5698bd09d00bef1dc17db38&utm_source=codepink&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=palestine_shireen&n=3> ACT
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> Dear Midge,
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> *51-year-old Palestinian-American Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh
> was covering an Israeli military raid in the Jenin refugee camp this
> morning when soldiers shot her in the face and killed her.* Both her blue
> protective vest and her helmet were clearly marked ?PRESS.?
>
> *Demand the U.S. State Department conduct a thorough investigation and the
> immediate suspension of U.S. military aid.*
> <https://www.codepink.org/shireen?e=b0c60deca5698bd09d00bef1dc17db38&utm_source=codepink&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=palestine_shireen&n=4>
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> In a video showing the aftermath of Shireen being shot, a man can be heard
> yelling, *?Injured! Shireen, Shireen, oh man, Shireen! Ambulance!?* Al
> Jazeera journalist Shatha Hanaysha, also wearing a helmet and vest marked
> as press, can be seen crouching down trying to reach Shireen but being
> forced back by Israeli gunfire. *The soldiers ?did not stop firing even
> after she collapsed,?* Hanaysha said. ?I couldn?t even extend my arm to
> pull her because of the shots. *The army was adamant on shooting to
> kill.?*
>
> Following their killing of Shireen, the Israeli military took to Twitter
> to announce that they were investigating the possibility that Shireen had
> been killed ?by Palestinian armed gunfire.? The Israeli Foreign Ministry
> offered to conduct a joint investigation with the Palestinian Authority and
> Israeli military spokesperson Kochav Ran on Army radio accused her and her
> colleagues of being *? armed with cameras.?*
>
> ?I encourage a thorough investigation into the circumstances of her death
> and the injury of at least one other journalist today in Jenin,? tweeted
> U.S. Ambassador Tom Nides. But, he didn?t specify that Israel must not be
> allowed to investigate and exonerate itself as has happened far too many
> times.
>
> *Call on the U.S. State Department to require a full investigation ? not
> by Israel ? into the grotesque and blatant murder of Shireen **Abu Akleh.*
> <https://www.codepink.org/shireen?e=b0c60deca5698bd09d00bef1dc17db38&utm_source=codepink&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=palestine_shireen&n=5>
> The U.S. must immediately suspend military aid to Israel pending the
> investigation.
>
> Unfortunately, there's more. As the Palestinian people and advocacy
> community were mourning Shireen?s death, Israeli police descended upon
> Shireen?s family home where they confiscated the Palestinian flags flying
> outside. Elsewhere this morning, Israeli bulldozers started to forcibly
> displace the Masafer Yatta Palestinian villages in the South Hebron hills.
>
> The Biden administration has repeatedly said that it is committed to
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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Wed May 11 21:34:33 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 17:34:33 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] @RoKhanna: Killing of American journalist =
 "blatant assault on freedom of press"
In-Reply-To: <CALMNhNRtWOg4_ODdVN4B+WUHymevioDDtoHxYj4f4pVixiYCWQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Let's tweet this at Dick Durbin and challenge him to match it.

https://twitter.com/reprokhanna/status/1524485064788226048

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Here's an example:

https://twitter.com/naiman/status/1524502829863518208

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From moboct1 at aol.com  Thu May 12 13:19:03 2022
From: moboct1 at aol.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 13:19:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] When I opened the News-Gazette yesterday morning....
In-Reply-To: <1267276107.1271394.1652305761194@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1267276107.1271394.1652305761194.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Subject: When I opened the News-Gazette yesterday....

I almost lost my breakfast finding the life-size front-page mugshot of the late Timmy Johnson, former Republican 6th Ward precinct committeeman (who replaced his old man), Urbana City Council 6th Ward alderman, 12-term Illinois state representative (known as "paper-clip Tim" for registering his absent votes) and 6-term U.S. Congressman, who did not receive one of my votes over his 50-year political career.? Yeah, I always heard that "he helped a lot of people"--that's what his staff was for, and all the calls he made as a Congressman were no doubt reelection fundraising.? The article didn't mention anything about his early stint in the?Air Farce (sic) Academy (did he flunk out?), before he came home to go to law school and launch his political career, with the help of his YAF colleagues ("Young Americans for Freedom").?
According to his reputation in Springfield, If he were in office today he would be at the top of the #ME TOO list.?
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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Thu May 12 15:24:24 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 11:24:24 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Let's challenge Peter Welch to talk about Shireen
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Say her name, Peter. *#SayHerName! #JusticeForShireen!*

https://twitter.com/isaacforvt/status/1524537365649317889

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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Fri May 13 00:35:46 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 20:35:46 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Peter Beinart: Malinowski should ask US intel take
 - who killed Shireen Abu Aqla?
In-Reply-To: <CALMNhNTfYQz+-w2d2xsx2tw7yDF_TxbUv=gNdzWass0mH-btgA@mail.gmail.com>
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Please RT.

Pull this thread.

https://twitter.com/peterbeinart/status/1524869171506556928

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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Fri May 13 16:55:09 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 12:55:09 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] 5/11: *Cardin* called for *"independent"*
 investigation of journalist's killing
In-Reply-To: <CALMNhNRTxHnHh2MrO7swi7H6xGbnKC5nF_k+h4=1t7QUg8aUiA@mail.gmail.com>
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Look at this. *Cardin*. 2nd top Dem on SFRC. Super-dooper close to AIPAC.
One of four Dem Senators who voted against Obama's Iran deal. Jewish.
Impeccable Jewish credentials, untouchable, a fortress, Mother of all
Validators.

Calling for an "*independent*" investigation, the day of the event.

What does "independent" mean in this context? "Independent" of the Israeli
government. He's saying that we can't trust the Israeli government to
investigate itself.

OK, a bunch of people are saying, "Duh, we knew that." But this is *Cardin*
saying it, the Mother of all Senate Jewish Validators.

If *Cardin* can say this, *any Member of Congress can say it*.

All they have to do is stand behind Cardin, use Cardin for cover,
quote-retweet Cardin's tweet. "I agree with Senator Cardin." That's it.
That's all they have to do. In thirty seconds, they can participate in a
world-historical act and march on the stage of history.

https://twitter.com/SenatorCardin/status/1524568667182313480

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From moboct1 at aim.com  Fri May 13 22:06:02 2022
From: moboct1 at aim.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 22:06:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] 5/11: *Cardin* called for *"independent"*
 investigation of journalist's killing
In-Reply-To: <CALMNhNSG+AK18NOUeM4w+XYFoCJjnA=zoF_RR3F0YBtLMyLnmQ@mail.gmail.com>
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"SUPER-DOOPER CLOSE TO AIPAC?"?? I don't trust Ben Cardin
mo'b


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Sent: Fri, May 13, 2022 11:56 am
Subject: [Peace-discuss] 5/11: *Cardin* called for *"independent"* investigation of journalist's killing


Look at this. Cardin. 2nd top Dem on SFRC. Super-dooper close to AIPAC. One of four Dem Senators who voted against Obama's Iran deal. Jewish. Impeccable Jewish credentials, untouchable, a fortress, Mother of all Validators.?
Calling for an "independent" investigation, the day of the event.?
What does "independent" mean in this context? "Independent" of the Israeli government. He's saying that we can't trust the Israeli government to investigate itself.?

OK, a bunch of people are saying, "Duh, we knew that." But this is Cardin saying it, the Mother of all Senate Jewish Validators.
If Cardin can say this, any Member of Congress can say it.?
All they have to do is stand behind Cardin, use Cardin for cover, quote-retweet Cardin's tweet. "I agree with Senator Cardin." That's it. That's all they have to do. In thirty seconds, they can participate in a world-historical act and march on the stage of history.?
https://twitter.com/SenatorCardin/status/1524568667182313480




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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Sat May 14 12:10:54 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 08:10:54 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] 5/11: *Cardin* called for *"independent"*
 investigation of journalist's killing
In-Reply-To: <139240279.1764535.1652479562903@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CALMNhNRTxHnHh2MrO7swi7H6xGbnKC5nF_k+h4=1t7QUg8aUiA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALMNhNSG+AK18NOUeM4w+XYFoCJjnA=zoF_RR3F0YBtLMyLnmQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <139240279.1764535.1652479562903@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALMNhNTxxAiB0Hww6Jsqnk4yfDv2rK7zsZoEzXfcWN5=N6B9Nw@mail.gmail.com>

It doesn't matter whether you trust him or not! Whether you trust him or
not could not possibly be more irrelevant to the matter at hand. This is
not about finding a newfound love for Ben Cardin. This is about seizing an
opportunity to change history.

This is an Overton WIndow for holding the U.S. relationship to Israel
accountable. This is not the time to be demanding an Academy Award for how
righteous and progressive you are. This is the time to pitch in to change
history, like an Amish barn-raising.


On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 6:06 PM Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> "SUPER-DOOPER CLOSE TO AIPAC?"?  I don't trust Ben Cardin
>
> mo'b
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> To: peace <peace at lists.chambana.net>; Peace Discuss <
> peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> Sent: Fri, May 13, 2022 11:56 am
> Subject: [Peace-discuss] 5/11: *Cardin* called for *"independent"*
> investigation of journalist's killing
>
>
> Look at this. *Cardin*. 2nd top Dem on SFRC. Super-dooper close to AIPAC.
> One of four Dem Senators who voted against Obama's Iran deal. Jewish.
> Impeccable Jewish credentials, untouchable, a fortress, Mother of all
> Validators.
>
> Calling for an "*independent*" investigation, the day of the event.
>
> What does "independent" mean in this context? "Independent" of the Israeli
> government. He's saying that we can't trust the Israeli government to
> investigate itself.
>
> OK, a bunch of people are saying, "Duh, we knew that." But this is
> *Cardin* saying it, the Mother of all Senate Jewish Validators.
>
> If *Cardin* can say this, *any Member of Congress can say it*.
>
> All they have to do is stand behind Cardin, use Cardin for cover,
> quote-retweet Cardin's tweet. "I agree with Senator Cardin." That's it.
> That's all they have to do. In thirty seconds, they can participate in a
> world-historical act and march on the stage of history.
>
> https://twitter.com/SenatorCardin/status/1524568667182313480
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Sat May 14 13:34:02 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 09:34:02 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] @RoKhanna: We must have "independent investigation"
 into killing of Shireen Abu Akleh
In-Reply-To: <CALMNhNTDbUuTs1O98XGf5u4sgA02FM2LQGS9ZZd41tNjuzgjow@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALMNhNTDbUuTs1O98XGf5u4sgA02FM2LQGS9ZZd41tNjuzgjow@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALMNhNSuHZRu83eF8hhMsUOxecvLVD=CRnd8FZLiriJ2MfXKBg@mail.gmail.com>

This is an "Overton Window" for bringing democratic accountability to the
U.S.-Israel relationship. It's like a "fast break" in basketball. Run, run,
follow whoever has the ball. All hands on deck.

"Independent investigation" is the "critical move," the password that opens
the door. Congress forced an independent investigation into the Saudi
regime assassination of Jamaal Khashoggi. Congress can force an independent
investigation into the assassination of Shireen Abu Akleh.

Please RT and spread.

https://twitter.com/reprokhanna/status/1525240205904871424

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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Sat May 14 14:21:17 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 10:21:17 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Joaquin Castro: There must be "independent
 investigation" into Shireen's "murder"
In-Reply-To: <CALMNhNTR9yGU6R1BpgoP-=GG4g2MuqSY59MDP=oj8U8m0t_KTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALMNhNTR9yGU6R1BpgoP-=GG4g2MuqSY59MDP=oj8U8m0t_KTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALMNhNSxQgOwbWG=BREiYtjLKLKe+EBKe=CPjLuJ7R2toRZWYw@mail.gmail.com>

Joaquin Castro is a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. I wonder
if there's anything that HFAC could do about this?

Who else is on HFAC? *Tom Malinowski*. "Red rover, red rover, let another
HFAC member come over."

*"Independent investigation" is the key.*

Please RT and spread.

https://twitter.com/joaquincastrotx/status/1525279736942977026

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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Sat May 14 14:43:06 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 10:43:06 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] BERNIE: U.S. must demand "independent
 investigation" into Shireen's killing
In-Reply-To: <CALMNhNTDJGKApWmrx-buvgF-LOT9mc61B0t840C8da=CP5_CrA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALMNhNSqzAYtJovQHHCZ3MkAUiNdu83woTcStb6Yt136gK2yDw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALMNhNTDJGKApWmrx-buvgF-LOT9mc61B0t840C8da=CP5_CrA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALMNhNRm-2EjsCrN60Zyhjcz_h_0Mvxu4TVgngE_bCwP2yczFQ@mail.gmail.com>

Please RT and spread.

"Independent investigation" is the key.

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1525175388892168192

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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Sat May 14 16:22:42 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 12:22:42 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Twitter: 'No results for "malinowski shireen"''
In-Reply-To: <CALMNhNSt_ZVp6FmKEDycArSNFdB0nR=uU055sDCH9bUf97VSiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALMNhNSt_ZVp6FmKEDycArSNFdB0nR=uU055sDCH9bUf97VSiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALMNhNRghgtnmnBWP0sk6QM5ifnzEs7ov9ChF_goY=RoYz_NoA@mail.gmail.com>

I double dog dare anyone here to tweet your version of this picture to Rep.
Tom Malinowski, Mr. Human Rights, @Malinowski.

Ben Cardin, Bernie Sanders, Ro Khanna, Joaquin Castro, Elissa Slotkin.

But no Tom Malinowski.

What's shakin', Tom? Cat got your tongue?

====

https://twitter.com/search?q=malinowski%20shireen

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From jbn at forestfield.org  Sun May 15 00:53:36 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 19:53:36 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Her camera was a weapon???
In-Reply-To: <1844230454.1225703.1652294916778@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <627be7a14f232_686a11a8f505973d@asgworker-qmb3-21.nbuild.prd.useast1.3dna.io.mail>
 <1844230454.1225703.1652294916778@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a6e56fa9-f04f-29f0-2865-2f440f345bc1@forestfield.org>

Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss wrote:
> To J. B. Nicholson at peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net

Thanks Midge; I'm guessing that you tried to send this to me to suggest a discussion 
topic for News from Neptune. Your post ended up on peace-discuss mailing list instead.

News from Neptune was a discussion show for years and then with COVID-19 making 
studio access difficult for Carl & David, we changed the show to running videos which 
express the views Carl & David used to discuss on the show.

Unfortunately I couldn't find a video in this codepink.org post 
(https://www.codepink.org/her_camera_was_a_weapon) to run during the News from 
Neptune timeslot.

Without a video to run I'm afraid that we won't be able to discuss this important 
topic as there is no discussion portion of News from Neptune. But thanks for keeping 
the show in mind and suggesting something that I'm sure the guys would want to take up.

From jbn at forestfield.org  Sun May 15 00:53:53 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 19:53:53 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Recommended videos for AWARE on the Air,
 News from Neptune, and Labor's World View TV
Message-ID: <7e4c10ea-0665-4c40-a5d3-831e1f24a087@forestfield.org>

Here are the videos I recommended to run during AWARE on the Air, News from Neptune, 
and Labor's World View TV.

As a reminder: If anyone else has anything to run, please feel free to get your video 
pointers to UPTV (UPTV at urbanaillinois.us). I have continued to ask UPTV to prioritize 
AWARE members video pointers over mine for AWARE on the Air, Carl Estabrook & David 
Green's video pointers over mine for News from Neptune, and David Johnson's video 
pointers over mine for Labor's World View TV.

Enjoy.
-J





News from Neptune & AWARE on the Air
==================================================

RT

'They wanted to skin blacks & Jews' - French volunteer on Ukrainian neo-Nazis
https://rumble.com/v14h93b-they-wanted-to-skin-blacks-and-jews-french-volunteer-on-ukrainian-neo-nazis.html

Volunteers deliver basic necessities to front-line Ukrainian towns
https://rumble.com/v14h5ip-volunteers-deliver-basic-necessities-to-front-line-ukrainian-towns.html

EU mulls unlawfully using seized Russian assets to rebuild Ukraine
https://rumble.com/v1476wc-eu-mulls-unlawfully-using-seized-russian-assets-to-rebuild-ukraine.html



CGTN (China Global Television Network)

What we know so far about the attack on the Al Jazeera journalist
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NM0Zl7ZMr0U



MintPressNews

Shireen Abu Akleh was Assasinated by Israel
https://youtube.com/watch?v=418BCRmKl78



The Grayzone

US People's Convoy blocked from protesting in DC
https://youtube.com/watch?v=c2dorhC6uPc



Glenn Greenwald

The US Anti-War Left is Dead. The Squad's $40b War Vote Just Killed It.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MITADUnILww
https://rumble.com/v14fh3w-the-us-anti-war-left-is-dead.-the-squads-40b-war-vote-just-killed-it..html




Labor's World View TV
==================================================

Democracy at Work

Anti-Capitalist Chronicles - US Labor - Supply vs. Demand
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bcCu4AP_S98

Ask Prof Wolff - How Marx Defines Capital and Why It Matters
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6fOtDtAjtdY




laborvideo

On 2022 May Day: Fight For Labor Party & Against War Abroad & War At Home Pushed by 
Republicrats
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5Ja1jdJ0wWs

SF 2022 May Day March & Speakers From Bay Area Labor Councils
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2VxZ5Sgfce0

On May1 It's Time For A General Strike & Fighting Labor Movement! ILWU10 Former Pres 
Trent Willis
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vnwsnx0oNC4



The Grayzone

US People's Convoy blocked from protesting in DC
https://youtube.com/watch?v=c2dorhC6uPc

From jbn at forestfield.org  Mon May 16 03:13:40 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2022 22:13:40 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] More on people taken to be peaceful but stumped for
 war
Message-ID: <d6ae7f7f-a15c-316b-fb8c-0b6e48dc71f3@forestfield.org>

Ben Norton (now independently of The Grayzone on his own channel, "Multipolarista") 
has a video -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=_QHoW8Vf8wg -- where he discusses "neocon 
'right-wing populism' scam" (Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, and Glenn Greenwald are 
mentioned) with his guest Robbie Martin (https://twitter.com/FluorescentGrey) brother 
of Abby Martin (Empire Files).

Unfortunately the video is 2h 13m and doesn't get into presenting evidence until 40m 
in. The same topic, in different hands, would take far less time to present evidence 
of people from the recent past saying pro-war things or challenging obviously true 
things (such as Greenwald challenging Norton on .

There are good points made along the way. One of the themes is that almost all of the 
examples contain information how we shouldn't understand the people shown to be 
anti-war but stumping for different wars. Don't take someone who objects to one war 
(say, the US war against Russia via Ukraine) to be anti-war. They might object to one 
war and want war somewhere else; internecine conflicts within the ruling class and 
those who do the bidding of the ruling class exist.



Here's one example I found on Martin's tweets. All of the webpages listed below can 
be fed to yt-dlp for downloading and viewing offline if desired.

Tulsi Gabbard from July 27, 2014
https://www.msnbc.com/taking-the-hill/watch/should-us-be-involved-in-ukraine-conflict--312796739629 
in which over 1,000 Palestinians were killed.

These remarks were copied from the captions.

> IT'S SUCH A DIFFICULT AND HEARTBREAKING SITUATION FOR ALL OF US TO SEE WHAT IS
> HAPPENING THERE FOR THE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES WHO ARE BEING AFFECTED BY THIS
> CONFLICT. AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO SEE A WAY THROUGH IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A SITUATION
> WHERE ISRAEL IS DEALING WITH THE TERRORIST ORGANIZATION WHOSE STATED MISSION IS TO
> OBLITERATE ISRAEL AND ISRAEL'S POSITION OF STANDING AND NEEDING TO DEFEND ITSELF
> AND ITS PEOPLE.
Then Rep. Gabbard goes on in this way in this show. She also brought up Ukraine's 
sovereignty and said that she said (remarks hand transcribed):

> We've gotta look at Russia's incursion on Ukraine, Ukraine sovereignty, and the
> fact that any conventional warfare tactics that Russia employs in invading Ukraine
> can't be countered by Ukraine; they can't go mano-a-mano on this. So we've gotta
> look to see what support we can give through taking action through very harsh
> financial and economic sanctions against Russia but also seeing what kind of
> military aid and training and equipment that we can provide to both the Ukrainian
> people but also the others -- Baltic states and others who are nearing Russia --
> so they can counter these conventional tactics with unconventional warfare because
> that's the only way that Russia will start to get the message that this is not
> something they're going to walk in the front door on without any cost to their own
> people and their own families.

Robbie Martin in https://twitter.com/FluorescentGrey/status/1524086636488773633
> a creepy reminder that in 2015 Tulsi Gabbard was not only trying to out-hawk Obama
> and Biden on Ukraine/Russia + was still being a total Israel apologist blaming
> massive Palestinian civilian casualties on Palestinian 'terrorists' not Israel

and in https://nitter.42l.fr/FluorescentGrey/status/1524087520576692224
> what continues to impress me about Tulsi's followers is that absolutely none of
> them hold her accountable for anything she said in the past, the clock 'starts'
> pretty much as soon as she 180'd into saying very generic boiler plate anti-war
> stuff
Which I found to be true as well, hence my own blog post about Gabbard's statements 
I've referred to here multiple times. Gabbard now says different things which sound 
more or less critical of US policy including the regime change war against Russia in 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=m8kHJ2-D5uA and https://youtube.com/watch?v=MTx6JCCESFI 
for example (Gabbard commented on Pres. Biden saying "For god's sake, this man 
[Putin] cannot remain in power" was no gaffe). In 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pbk5KghrD3I she compared Biden/Harris' DHS publication 
vetting to be a "ministry of truth" comparable to what happens in dictatorships. 
Gabbard is out of power now, hence she's more free to be critical of policies chosen 
by the party to which she's clearly loyal.




There are mentions of other people in power -- Pete Buttigieg, for example -- and 
their neoconservative-supporting past but it's not clear where the information passed 
on to us comes from. It is disappointing because it doesn't take long to quote a post 
to twitter.com.

Norton & Martin make other allegations about talk show hosts (Tucker Carlson, Saagar 
Enjeti) and reporters (Matt Stoller, Glenn Greenwald) which I take to be less 
important because these people aren't in power. Rep. Gabbard whose comments above 
were made when she was in Congress. Some of the claims are far less compelling 
because the claims are raised without clips or pointers to published information. It 
would have been far better to gather the evidence, organize clips/posts by person, 
and present the themes afterwards.

From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Mon May 16 15:15:19 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 11:15:19 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Think like a staffer about DC strategy on
 protecting the human rights of Palestinian civilians
In-Reply-To: <CALMNhNQBDcA3QFdSnEUBUm4HR3jW=oZoJQqJwby+pRQpAOgO7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALMNhNQBDcA3QFdSnEUBUm4HR3jW=oZoJQqJwby+pRQpAOgO7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALMNhNRh=d0kfL7_+g7BytkJr2wpW7=P8TsMCTeD0bzgJM4-Vw@mail.gmail.com>

Suppose that there are two cars stuck in the snow, and you want to help get
the two cars out of the snow. One car has a bunch of people trying to push
it out. The other car has no people trying to push it out except its
driver. What?s the morally righteous way to proceed?

One way to think about the situation might be: the first car already has a
bunch of people trying to push it out, so that?s taken care of. I should go
try to help the poor guy who?s trying to push his car out of the snow by
himself, because he has no people helping him.

Here?s how a Congressional staffer might think about the problem. First
join the crowd trying to push out the first car, and make sure that car
gets out of the snow, thereby proving that you can get at least one car out
of the snow. When the crowd succeeds in getting the first car out of the
snow, they?re going to feel like a million bucks, like they rule the world,
like they can accomplish anything they want. Recruit those people to go get
the second car out of the snow.
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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Mon May 16 16:18:40 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 12:18:40 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] CMEP Condemns Killing of Shireen,
 *Calls on US Government* to Investigate Murder
In-Reply-To: <CALMNhNSxgxJZ2uZbUkYwTzKkd5-z9b=P-MkWQ_-_J3dcPcvcsQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <57f4c3d9-89cf-4d08-9010-78b6f4b4f3d8@salsalabs.org>
 <CALMNhNQiL888ub999nZqGM5txcRxQQ+qoKxd6DE0W_J88CZbpA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALMNhNSxgxJZ2uZbUkYwTzKkd5-z9b=P-MkWQ_-_J3dcPcvcsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALMNhNSPPm-bPd5yo1QESQZ9O1rXDGimOfG82813tQSt3r=o=g@mail.gmail.com>

For those who don't know, "CMEP" = "all the US churches who care about
this."

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Churches for Middle East Peace (CMEP) <info at cmep.org>
Date: Mon, May 16, 2022 at 9:05 AM
Subject: CMEP Condemns the Killing of Shireen Abu Akleh and *Calls on US
Government to Investigate* Murder of the Palestinian-American Journalist
To: Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>


<https://default.salsalabs.org/T32786114-2881-4c47-a399-34e69aef195a/e39c0457-77c6-4a50-ab54-764230dc4022>

*FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Washington, D.C. - May 16, 2022*

Media Contact: media at cmep.org
<https://default.salsalabs.org/Td9d45daf-356f-4429-8e24-838d0488bbe8/e39c0457-77c6-4a50-ab54-764230dc4022>
202-543-1222



Churches for Middle East Peace (CMEP) Condemns the Killing of Shireen Abu
Akleh and *Calls on US Government to Investigate* Murder of the
Palestinian-American Journalist

On Wednesday, May 11, Shireen Abu Akleh, a high-profile
Palestinian-American journalist, was shot and killed
<https://default.salsalabs.org/T9f2ec789-2828-42e9-8c36-6a61a2d21bdf/e39c0457-77c6-4a50-ab54-764230dc4022>
while covering a raid conducted by the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) in the
West Bank city of Jenin. Abu Akleh was wearing protective gear prominently
marked with the English word ?PRESS? when she was shot. Ali Samoudi,
another journalist with Abu Akleh, was shot in the back during the same
attack. Samoudi said
<https://default.salsalabs.org/T031561fe-7e8f-47fd-8fac-11c468588f44/e39c0457-77c6-4a50-ab54-764230dc4022>
the group of journalists Abu Akleh worked with that day had made Israeli
forces aware they were present to cover the incursion. He also stated that
in the attack, one bullet missed, the next one struck him in the back, and
the next shot hit Abu Akleh. She was taken to the hospital soon thereafter
and pronounced dead.

Israeli representatives, including the Israeli Prime Minister, initially
suggested the journalist had been shot by Palestinian gunmen, but
subsequently, Israeli officials have been more cautious in their public
statements. Palestinian witnesses at the scene claim an Israeli sniper
targeted the journalists. Following the killing, Israeli authorities
circulated video footage of Palestinian gunmen firing down an alleyway,
suggesting that it was this gunfire that killed Abu Akleh, but Israeli
human rights organization B?Tselem has since demonstrated that the footage
was taken in a different part of the city from where Abu Akleh was killed.

This is not the first time Israeli forces have killed a Palestinian
journalist. For example, an Israeli sniper killed Yaser Murtaja
<https://default.salsalabs.org/T4ed821c3-1034-45c0-9793-c0bfdfbd7a10/e39c0457-77c6-4a50-ab54-764230dc4022>,
a Palestinian reporter covering the Great March of Return in Gaza in 2018.
Like Abu Akleh, Murtaja was also wearing a vest with the word PRESS when he
was shot. According to the United Nations
<https://default.salsalabs.org/T7bbfdfb2-e9ec-4898-b761-3577698a1440/e39c0457-77c6-4a50-ab54-764230dc4022>,
more than 40 Palestinian Journalists have been killed by Israeli forces
since 2000. As was the case with Abu Akleh and Murtaja, these killings
included journalists clearly marked as press.

CMEP is shocked at the killing of Shireen Abu Akleh. Freedom of the press
must be protected, and the killing of journalists, especially when they are
plainly distinguishable by their press vests, represents a clear violation
of international law. CMEP?s executive director Rev. Dr. Mae Elise Cannon,
says, ?We are deeply grieved by this news and condemn the killing of
Shireen Abu Akleh. Our hearts go out to her family and loved ones. We call
for an investigation and will advocate for accountability.? CMEP calls on
the United States to ensure a fair and independent investigation into Abu
Akleh?s murder and to hold the responsible parties accountable.


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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Mon May 16 17:38:50 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 13:38:50 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Medea Benjamin: "Oi! Malinowski! Y U No Say
 'Shireen'"?
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Please RT.

Let's see if we can get the attention of "Mr. Human Rights."

https://twitter.com/medeabenjamin/status/1525524302761807872

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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Tue May 17 16:10:03 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 11:10:03 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: ACURA Event Announcement: Panel Discussion on
 Thursday, May 19: Where Is Russia Heading?
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> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: "Globetrotter" <info at globetrotter.media>
> Subject: ACURA Event Announcement: Panel Discussion on Thursday, May 19: Where Is Russia Heading?
> Date: May 17, 2022 at 11:05:07 AM CDT
> To: <cgestabrook at gmail.com>
> 
> Can't see this email? Read Online <https://go.ind.media/webmail/546932/1060998754/b68efe412f2649202a976d93b21efff1467af6a31719973cc980d808c6325b16>
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> ACURA Event Announcement:
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From jbn at forestfield.org  Wed May 18 04:59:02 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 23:59:02 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Jimmy Dore covering US warmaking in Africa which
 you don't hear about in many other places
Message-ID: <7b19309f-8660-5a8b-785e-858e105b1a4e@forestfield.org>

In 
https://rumble.com/v1518vt-biden-sends-troops-back-to-somalia-reversing-trump-withdrawal.html 
Jimmy Dore covered the US return to troops in Somalia where the US "will help 
Somalia's fledgling government fight the al-Shabaab militant group, which is 
affiliated with al Qaeda" according to the New York Post in 
https://nypost.com/2022/05/16/biden-sends-us-troops-back-to-somalia-reversing-trump-pullout/ 
. Here Dore pointed out, "Wait a minute, I thought we liked al Qaeda in Syria. We 
were helping fund them. I thought they were our friends!"

Around 4 minutes into that video, Jimmy Dore referred to another video in which he 
interviewed a journalist about Ethiopia. 
https://rumble.com/v13t8zs-050622-4-tigray-civil-war.html is that interview with 
Hermela Aregawi.

From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Wed May 18 15:20:10 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 11:20:10 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Haaretz: Progressive Democrat Declares Victory in
 Pennsylvania Primary Despite Unprecedented AIPAC Opposition
In-Reply-To: <CALMNhNSG2U2L+xe7P18W4h4az5WLoQhLaKt+dYRcQyfQTCZs9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALMNhNR6peSYC+fTZM0oKa+=af_8OdoL7x+y-PQtQ8Gp3=9h8A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CALMNhNQHrBi6+u1rrEK-FJja4Tnx6FgxSk30LKr3L_D7ZxwaOw@mail.gmail.com>

What a headline!

Proclaim Jubilee throughout the land and set the captives free.

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium.HIGHLIGHT-progressive-democrat-declares-victory-in-pennsylvania-primary-despite-unprecedented-1.10806747

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From davidgreen50 at gmail.com  Wed May 18 16:06:14 2022
From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 11:06:14 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Jimmy Dore covering US warmaking in Africa
 which you don't hear about in many other places
In-Reply-To: <7b19309f-8660-5a8b-785e-858e105b1a4e@forestfield.org>
References: <7b19309f-8660-5a8b-785e-858e105b1a4e@forestfield.org>
Message-ID: <CAOiGAyGjUxbV_02u_FNOvq52c6jom=keypF8b6vreOKfYU_yBA@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you Jeff for the video re Ethiopia. These views are confirmed by my
partner's son-in-law, who is Ethiopian. So once again we have Democratic
BLM politicians supporting American imperialism including against people
called Black, including local politicians at state, county, city, and
township levels.

DG

On Tue, May 17, 2022, 11:59 PM J.B. Nicholson via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> In
>
> https://rumble.com/v1518vt-biden-sends-troops-back-to-somalia-reversing-trump-withdrawal.html
> Jimmy Dore covered the US return to troops in Somalia where the US "will
> help
> Somalia's fledgling government fight the al-Shabaab militant group, which
> is
> affiliated with al Qaeda" according to the New York Post in
>
> https://nypost.com/2022/05/16/biden-sends-us-troops-back-to-somalia-reversing-trump-pullout/
> . Here Dore pointed out, "Wait a minute, I thought we liked al Qaeda in
> Syria. We
> were helping fund them. I thought they were our friends!"
>
> Around 4 minutes into that video, Jimmy Dore referred to another video in
> which he
> interviewed a journalist about Ethiopia.
> https://rumble.com/v13t8zs-050622-4-tigray-civil-war.html is that
> interview with
> Hermela Aregawi.
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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Wed May 18 20:53:03 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 15:53:03 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Kindergarteners_given_inappropr?=
 =?utf-8?q?iate_sexual_=E2=80=98grooming=E2=80=99_assignment_at_school?=
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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Wed May 18 21:15:31 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 16:15:31 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] End US support for war
Message-ID: <90BB072A-F326-421A-9241-A086E7025E49@newsfromneptune.com>

Republicans are the only members of Congress voting against the administration?s massive spending on its proxy war in Ukraine. 

I?m reversing the habits of lifetime and voting only for Republicans. End US sustenance for war. ?Dr. C. G. Estabrook

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From moboct1 at aol.com  Thu May 19 00:39:22 2022
From: moboct1 at aol.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 00:39:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] End US support for war
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THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, MITCH McCONNELL WAS A REPUBLICAN. WHAT BIDEN HAS IS A BIPARTISAN WAR--TO HELP BOOST HIS POLL RATINGS...
m O'B

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Republicans are the only members of Congress voting against the administration?s massive spending on its proxy war in Ukraine. 

I?m reversing the habits of lifetime and voting only for Republicans. End US sustenance for war. ?Dr. C. G. Estabrook

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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Thu May 19 03:16:29 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 22:16:29 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] [marxmail] Some Thoughts on the Russia-Ukraine
 Conflict in Week Number Twelve - CounterPunch.org
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Scott Ritter's Switcheroo: "Why I Radically Changed My Overall Assessment"
MIKE WHITNEY ? MAY 16, 2022 ? 

On Sunday, the foreign policy blogs were abuzz with the news that Scott Ritter had done ?an about-face in his assessment of the war?. It appears that the ex-Marine had examined recent developments in Ukraine and concluded that it?s going to be much harder for Russia to win than he had originally thought..

Naturally, the news of Ritter?s reversal sent shockwaves across the internet, especially among the people who follow events in Ukraine closely and who greatly admire his even-handed analysis. Some of these people clearly felt betrayed by Ritter?s comments and blasted him as a ?concern troll? which refers to a person who feigns sympathy while actually feeling the opposite. This is a terrible way to treat a guy who?s devoted so much of his time to informing people about an issue of which they might know very little without his research. Besides, Ritter is no hypocrite. Quite the contrary.

It?s fair to say, however, that Ritter has probably been the most outspoken proponent of the ?Russia is winning? theory, a hypothesis that runs counter to everything we read in the legacy media or see on the cable news channels. Unfortunately, Ritter?s views on the matter have changed dramatically, and that?s due almost entirely to developments on the ground. As Ritter candidly admits, ?The military aid the west is providing to Ukraine is changing the dynamic and if Russia doesn?t find a way to address this meaningfully? the conflict will never end.?

That?s quite a turnaround from a statement he made just weeks earlier that, ?Russia is winning the war, and winning it decisively.?

So, what changed? What are the so-called developments that led to Ritter?s volte-face?

Here are a few excerpts from the interview that triggered the fracas. Ritter was joined by Ray McGovern and host Garland Nixon on Saturday Morning Live. (The quotes are copied from video. I accept blame for any mistakes.)

Scott Ritter (start at 47:50 minute mark) ? ?The thing that frustrates me? is that, it was my assessment that it would be very hard for Ukraine to absorb this new equipment and material (Material? the additional lethal weapons that have recently been shipped to Ukraine) but the howitzers are already operating against Russia. (And) They are having an effect in the Kharkov region. Not all 90 of them, but they have several batteries in place that are being used.

How did this happen?

And this is why I have radically changed my overall assessment, because I had been operating on the assumption that Russia would be able to interdict the vast majority of this equipment, but Russia has shown itself unable or unwilling to do this and? as a result? the Ukrainians are having meaningful impact on the battlefield. Not in the areas of main contention, like the Donbass, but on the periphery. This is why Russia has carried out tactical withdrawals north of Kharkov, because in order to match Ukraine?s best capabilities, Russia would have to divert resources from its main effort which Russia has decided not to do. So, they are re-configuring the battlefield. (trading land in different areas)?(?Saturday Morning Live with Scott Ritter and Ray McGovern, You Tube)

So, while Ritter?s sympathies have not changed in the slightest, it?s clear that his analysis has. At first, he didn?t think that the deluge of lethal weaponry would affect the outcome of the war. Now he?s not so sure. It?s a honest mistake but, still, he needed to ?come clean? and explain the factors that contributed to his U-turn. Here?s more from the same interview:

Scott Ritter? This is a transformative moment in the war, because what it means is that demilitarization is not taking place. For all the forces Russia is destroying in the east, Ukraine is rebuilding significant capability (in the west) I liken this to Moscow in December 1941, when the Germans were moving towards Moscow and the Russians just started throwing things at them., sacrificing everything to slow the German offensive. until General Winter and the combination of Siberian divisions gave them the ability to counterattack. The Germans were bled white and they were stopped and turned back. If Russia doesn?t change the calculation, then that is the trajectory we are heading on., because 200,000 troops?however capable they may be, are only capable of doing so much. And the fighting that?s taking place right now ?even though it is slaughtering Ukrainians? it isn?t cost free to the Russians. They?re losing equipment, they?re losing men, they?re losing material, and unless Putin mobilizes or transfers forces in, those aren?t being replaced. So, instead of having 200,000 online, Russia might have 180,000 men. And if you don?t think removing 20,000 men doesn?t change the options available to the Russian leadership, then you don?t know anything about war.?

So, I believe Russia is going to win in the east, they are grinding them down as we speak, they are slaughtering them; the amount of death and destruction that is being dealt to the Ukrainians is unimaginable, but I believe the Ukrainians are willing to take these losses in order to buy time to reconstitute a military that will challenge Russia Because unless Russia is willing to jump across the Dnieper River and head into western Ukraine where it can eliminate the strategic depth that the Ukrainians are being gifted by the Russians, then demilitarization of Ukraine is not going to take place. It can?t take place when tens of billions of dollars of equipment is pouring in and Russia is not able to interdict it. The fact that these advanced howitzers are operating on the front lines right now, shows there?s something wrong with the Russian methodology. And?unless they alter that methodology? I think we?re in for a very long summer.? (?Saturday Morning Live with Scott Ritter and Ray McGovern, You Tube)

It?s hard to grasp what Ritter is saying here. Is he actually suggesting that Putin expand the current ?special operation? into a full-blown World War? At one point, he casually opines that Russia will have to mobilize 1 and a half million men (Note: Russia currently only has 200,000 in Ukraine) if they want to prevail in Ukraine and then move on to Finland. It?s impossible to tell by Ritter?s tone whether he is simply making an objective observation of ?what is needed? to succeed or if he is making an explicit recommendation that he thinks Russia?s High Command should consider. I can?t answer that. Here?s more from the interview:

Scott Ritter(5:20 mark)? ?The idea that the Ukrainian military has been eliminated as an effective fighting force is a flawed concept, and unless Russia broadens its special military operation? probably to the point of changing it form a special military operation to a war which includes the totality of Ukrainian battle-space?(then) this is a conflict that is dangerously close to becoming unwinnable by Russia which means that while they can complete their objectives in the east with 200,000 troops, they aren?t able to prevent Ukraine from rearming and reequipping when Ukraine is being provided with tens of billions of dollars of equipment by NATO ?Whenever you provide your enemy with ?safe space? to rebuild military capability, you?re never going to win. ?

Yes, Russia is winning in the east which is what they said their objective was all along. And they are accomplishing that. That is the special Military Operation. But now we?re talking about ?war?, and I don?t think Russia has made that transition yet. This is a defacto proxy war between the west and Russia using Ukrainian forces as NATO?s sword. The object of this is to ?bleed Russia dry?. And if Russia doesn?t change the dynamic, Russia will be bled dry.? Zelensky has indicated that he?s willing to mobilize a million people, at a time when the west is ready to provide the funding and equipment to turn those million men into a real military threat.

So, I see what has been happening in the last few weeks as being decisive.

The military aid the west is providing is changing the dynamic and if Russia doesn?t find a way to address this meaningfully, and to eliminate it as a military capability? then the conflict will never end.? (?Saturday Morning Live with Scott Ritter and Ray McGovern, You Tube)

There it is from the horse?s mouth. Readers will have to draw their own conclusions.

IMHO, Scott Ritter is gradually adjusting to the idea that the conflict in Ukraine is not a just regional skirmish between two quarrelsome neighbors, nor is it a proxy-war between NATO and Russia. No. Ukraine is the first phase of a broader plan for crushing Russia, collapsing its economy, removing its leaders, seizing its natural resources, splintering its territory, and projecting US power across Central Asia to the Pacific Rim. Ukraine is about hegemony, empire, and pure, unalloyed power. Most important, Ukraine is the first battle in a Third World War, a war that was concocted and launched by Washington to ensure another unchallenged century of American primacy.

> On May 18, 2022, at 3:15 PM, David Green <davidgreen50 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/18/some-thoughts-on-the-russia-ukraine-conflict-in-week-number-twelve/ 
> 
> Ron Jacobs has offered a consummately judicious summary in regard to Ukraine. It's interesting, however, that this is now a minority view on Counterpunch. The nature of American hegemony, and the responsibilities of a credible antiwar movement are elided more often than not.
> 
> David Green
> _._,_._,_


From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Thu May 19 18:10:43 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 14:10:43 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Demand Progress: Yemen War Powers Resolution
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From jbn at forestfield.org  Fri May 20 03:11:49 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 22:11:49 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] End US support for war
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C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> Republicans are the only members of Congress voting against the administration?s
> massive spending on its proxy war in Ukraine.
 From https://www.rt.com/news/555717-chip-roy-ukraine-war/

> ?I?m wondering when we voted to go to war?? ? US Congressman
> 
> Chip Roy accused his fellow lawmakers of waging a ?proxy war? so they can ?look
> all fancy with our blue and yellow ribbons?
> 
> Congressman Chip Roy (R-Texas) has condemned House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer for
> stating that the US is ?at war,? presumably with Russia. Roy hammered Democrats
> and Republicans alike for deepening America?s involvement in the Ukraine conflict
> in order to ?feel good about ourselves.?
> 
> In a video clip posted by Roy?s press office on Wednesday, the Texas Republican
> took aim at Hoyer for declaring on Friday that the US is ?at war,? and that
> critics of the Democratic Party should ?focus on the enemy? instead of rising
> energy costs at home.
> 
> ?When I hear the majority leader of the other party say ?a time of war?...I?m
> wondering when we voted to go to war?? Roy said.
> 
> ?If we're gonna have a proxy war, and we're gonna give $40 billion to Ukraine,
> because we want to look all fancy with our blue and yellow ribbons and feel good
> about ourselves, maybe we should actually have a debate in this chamber,? he
> continued.
> 
> Roy was one of 57 House Republicans who voted against the passage of the $40
> billion military and economic aid bill for Ukraine earlier this month. However,
> the bill had strong bipartisan support and passed with 368 votes to 57. It is now
> expected to pass the Senate later this week.
> 
> Republican lawmakers opposing the bill either argue that the money would be better
> spent solving domestic issues or that pumping military aid into Ukraine risks
> drawing the US into war with nuclear-armed Russia, or both.
> 
> Roy, who described the bill as ?garbage,? reiterated these arguments on Wednesday.
> ?When the border of this country is wide open?and fentanyl is pouring in and we
> have $30.5 trillion of debt and gas prices are spiking and $1,100 to fill a tank
> of diesel, and we go ?oh, blank check for $40 billion.?
> 
> ?By the way, I?m looking at my colleagues on this side of the aisle on that same
> point,? he concluded.
> 
> Aside from supporting the $40 billion package making its way through Congress, the
> Biden administration has already given Ukraine nearly $4 billion worth of weapons
> since February, has placed an embargo on Russian oil and gas imports, and imposed
> several rounds of economic sanctions on Moscow.
> 
> With the US arming Ukraine and sharing intelligence with Kiev?s forces, Russian
> Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has accused Washington of waging a ?proxy war?
> against Russia, while Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolay Patrushev claimed
> on Tuesday that the West has used Ukraine as pretext to fight an ?undeclared war?
> against Russia?s ?very statehood.?

Related:

?Russia not our enemy? ? US congressman [Paul Gosar (R-Arizona)]
https://www.rt.com/news/555388-paul-gosar-putin-ukraine/


From jbn at forestfield.org  Fri May 20 03:16:19 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 22:16:19 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Even George W. Bush knows he committed a "wholly
 unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq"
Message-ID: <07a09f7a-d066-2c37-73fd-ac8433c244e6@forestfield.org>

https://rumble.com/v15bagr-bush-slams-unjustified-invasion-of-iraq.html

> In contrast, Russian elections are rigged. Political opponents are imprisoned or
> otherwise eliminated from participating in the electoral process. The result is an
> absence of checks and balances in Russia, and the decision of one man to launch a
> wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq. I mean, of Ukraine. [Mutters]
> Iraq. Anyway. I'm 75. [laughter] Uh. [...]


From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Fri May 20 17:47:11 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 13:47:11 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] AAI: 57 Members support U.S. investigation for
 Shireen Abu Akleh
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This is some kind of record for Members of Congress speaking up for a
Palestinian human rights issue.

And look who cooperated on this letter: Jews, Arabs, Muslims, Christans.

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"This is a BFD," as President Biden would say.

====

*From:* Jim Zogby
*Date:* May 20, 2022 at 11:44:08 AM EDT
*Subject:* *Robert- you did it! 57 Members support U.S. investigation for
Shireen Abu Akleh*

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Dear Susan,

You made the difference. In just 48 hours you, and countless others like
you, spoke out in favor of justice for Shireen Abu Akel. The result?
One-fourth of House Democrats responded and *agreed with you - on the
record!* Shireen Abu Akel was an American citizen and respected journalist.
She deserves no less than a full investigation by the U.S. Department of
State and the F.B.I.

The importance of this changing tide cannot be understated. But you aren't
done yet. Please check the list of 57 congressional signers. If your
Representative is on it, call them through the U.S. House Switchboard
at (202) 224-3121 and say thank you.* Let them know you appreciate their
stand for justice especially since Israeli military officials have already
said there will be no investigation into this killing.*

If you're Representative is not on the list of signers call (202)
224-3121. Once connected, tell the staffer you're a constituent and *ask why
your Representative did not sign the Carson, Correa, Pascrell letter to
"Support a U.S. Investigation into the Death of Palestinian-American
Journalist, Shireen Abu Akleh." Remind them that Israeli military officials
have already refused to investigate the killing of Shireen, a U.S. citizen.
For the U.S. NOT to investigate the killing of an American is unacceptable.*

I included the Carson, Correa, Pascrell letter below along with the list of
57 signers. You can also find the letter here
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Thank you for standing up for justice for Shireen and for all Palestinians.

-Jim

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*Members of Congress supporting *

*"A U.S. Investigation into the Death of Palestinian-American Journalist,
Shireen Abu Akleh."*

Andr? Carson

J. Luis Correa

Anna G. Eshoo

Barbara Lee

Ra?l M. Grijalva

James P. McGovern

Bill Pascrell, Jr.

Marie Newman

Debbie Dingell

Ro Khanna

Jamaal Bowman, Ed.D.

Eleanor Holmes Norton

Ilhan Omar

John Garamendi

Mark DeSaulnier

Mark Pocan

Jerry McNerney

Susan Wild

Peter Welch

Mike Thompson

Betty McCollum

Donald S. Beyer Jr.

Jes?s G. "Chuy" Garc?a

Gwen S. Moore

Zoe Lofgren

Jackie Speier

Seth Moulton

Alma S. Adams, Ph.D.

Alan Lowenthal

Eric Swalwell

Andy Levin

Dwight Evans

Veronica Escobar

Henry C. "Hank" Johnson, Jr.

Eddie Bernice Johnson

Jared Huffman

Jahana Hayes

Nydia M. Vel?zquez

John Yarmuth

Marcy Kaptur

Mark Takano

Tom Malinowski

Katherine M. Clark

Stephen F. Lynch

Joaquin Castro

David E. Price

Pramila Jayapal

Ayanna Pressley

Rashida Tlaib

Peter A. DeFazio

Chellie Pingree

Jan Schakowsky

Cori Bush

Daniel T. Kildee

Bonnie Watson Coleman

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Sheila Jackson Lee
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From r-szoke at illinois.edu  Fri May 20 20:29:46 2022
From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 20:29:46 +0000
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Bertrand Russell at 150
Message-ID: <CH0PR11MB5689D0BBB37250CAA4BB7DAD8CD39@CH0PR11MB5689.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Bertrand Russell (May 18, 1872 - Feb. 2, 1970). 
Philosopher. Historian. Agnostic. Pacifist. Anti-war activist. Anti-nuclear activist. Anti-imperialist. Critic of organized religion. Graduate of Trinity College, Cambridge (1893). 
Author of "Why Men Fight" (1916), "Mysticism and Logic and Other Essays" (1918), "Why I Am Not A Christian" (1927), "Sceptical Essays" (1928), "In Praise of Idleness and Other Essays" (1935), "History of Western Philosophy" (1945), "The Will To Doubt" (1958), "Common Sense and Nuclear Warfare" (1959), and "Has Man A Future?" (1961), among many other works. 
Born in Trellech, Monmouthshire, Wales. Died in Penrhyndeudraeth, Gwynedd, Wales. Buried in Trinity College, Cambridge, England.
   Bertrand Arthur William Russell, 3rd Earl Russell was a Welsh polymath. As an academic, he worked in philosophy, mathematics, and logic. His work has had a considerable influence on mathematics, logic, set theory, linguistics, artificial intelligence, cognitive science, computer science, and various areas of analytic philosophy, especially philosophy of mathematics, philosophy of language, epistemology and metaphysics. He was a public intellectual, historian, social critic, political activist, and Nobel laureate. He was born in Monmouthshire into one of the most prominent aristocratic families in the United Kingdom. Russell was one of the early 20th century's most prominent logicians, and one of the founders of analytic philosophy, along with his predecessor Gottlob Frege, his friend and colleague G. E. Moore and his student and prot?g? Ludwig Wittgenstein. Russell with Moore led the British "revolt against idealism"."

   "When we speak of anything as ?free,? our meaning is not definite unless we can say what it is free from. Whatever or whoever is ?free? is not subject to some external compulsion, and to be precise we ought to say what this kind of compulsion is. Thus thought is ?free? when it is free from certain kinds of outward control which are often present. Some of these kinds of control which must be absent if thought is to be ?free? are obvious, but others are more subtle and elusive.
   To begin with the most obvious. Thought is not ?free? when legal penalties are incurred by the holding or not holding of certain opinions, or by giving expression to one?s belief or lack of belief on certain matters. Very few countries in the world have as yet even this elementary kind of freedom. In England, under the Blasphemy Laws, it is illegal to express disbelief in the Christian religion, though in practice the law is not set in motion against the well-to-do. It is also illegal to teach what Christ taught on the subject of non-resistance. Therefore, whoever wishes to avoid becoming a criminal must profess to agree with Christ?s teaching, but must avoid saying what that teaching was. 
In America no one can enter the country without first solemnly declaring that he disbelieves in anarchism and polygamy; and, once inside, he must also disbelieve in communism. In Japan it is illegal to express disbelief in the divinity of the Mikado. It will thus be seen that a voyage round the world is a perilous adventure. A Mohammedan, a Tolstoyan, a Bolshevik, or a Christian cannot undertake it without at some point becoming a criminal, or holding his tongue about what he considers important truths. This, of course, applies only to steerage passengers; saloon passengers are allowed to believe whatever they please, provided they avoid offensive obtrusiveness.
It is clear that the most elementary condition, if thought is to be free, is the absence of legal penalties for the expression of opinions. No great country has yet reached to this level, although most of them think they have. "

From r-szoke at illinois.edu  Fri May 20 20:29:46 2022
From: r-szoke at illinois.edu (Szoke, Ron)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 20:29:46 +0000
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Bertrand Russell at 150
Message-ID: <CH0PR11MB5689D0BBB37250CAA4BB7DAD8CD39@CH0PR11MB5689.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Bertrand Russell (May 18, 1872 - Feb. 2, 1970). 
Philosopher. Historian. Agnostic. Pacifist. Anti-war activist. Anti-nuclear activist. Anti-imperialist. Critic of organized religion. Graduate of Trinity College, Cambridge (1893). 
Author of "Why Men Fight" (1916), "Mysticism and Logic and Other Essays" (1918), "Why I Am Not A Christian" (1927), "Sceptical Essays" (1928), "In Praise of Idleness and Other Essays" (1935), "History of Western Philosophy" (1945), "The Will To Doubt" (1958), "Common Sense and Nuclear Warfare" (1959), and "Has Man A Future?" (1961), among many other works. 
Born in Trellech, Monmouthshire, Wales. Died in Penrhyndeudraeth, Gwynedd, Wales. Buried in Trinity College, Cambridge, England.
   Bertrand Arthur William Russell, 3rd Earl Russell was a Welsh polymath. As an academic, he worked in philosophy, mathematics, and logic. His work has had a considerable influence on mathematics, logic, set theory, linguistics, artificial intelligence, cognitive science, computer science, and various areas of analytic philosophy, especially philosophy of mathematics, philosophy of language, epistemology and metaphysics. He was a public intellectual, historian, social critic, political activist, and Nobel laureate. He was born in Monmouthshire into one of the most prominent aristocratic families in the United Kingdom. Russell was one of the early 20th century's most prominent logicians, and one of the founders of analytic philosophy, along with his predecessor Gottlob Frege, his friend and colleague G. E. Moore and his student and prot?g? Ludwig Wittgenstein. Russell with Moore led the British "revolt against idealism"."

   "When we speak of anything as ?free,? our meaning is not definite unless we can say what it is free from. Whatever or whoever is ?free? is not subject to some external compulsion, and to be precise we ought to say what this kind of compulsion is. Thus thought is ?free? when it is free from certain kinds of outward control which are often present. Some of these kinds of control which must be absent if thought is to be ?free? are obvious, but others are more subtle and elusive.
   To begin with the most obvious. Thought is not ?free? when legal penalties are incurred by the holding or not holding of certain opinions, or by giving expression to one?s belief or lack of belief on certain matters. Very few countries in the world have as yet even this elementary kind of freedom. In England, under the Blasphemy Laws, it is illegal to express disbelief in the Christian religion, though in practice the law is not set in motion against the well-to-do. It is also illegal to teach what Christ taught on the subject of non-resistance. Therefore, whoever wishes to avoid becoming a criminal must profess to agree with Christ?s teaching, but must avoid saying what that teaching was. 
In America no one can enter the country without first solemnly declaring that he disbelieves in anarchism and polygamy; and, once inside, he must also disbelieve in communism. In Japan it is illegal to express disbelief in the divinity of the Mikado. It will thus be seen that a voyage round the world is a perilous adventure. A Mohammedan, a Tolstoyan, a Bolshevik, or a Christian cannot undertake it without at some point becoming a criminal, or holding his tongue about what he considers important truths. This, of course, applies only to steerage passengers; saloon passengers are allowed to believe whatever they please, provided they avoid offensive obtrusiveness.
It is clear that the most elementary condition, if thought is to be free, is the absence of legal penalties for the expression of opinions. No great country has yet reached to this level, although most of them think they have. "

From moboct1 at aol.com  Sat May 21 22:26:10 2022
From: moboct1 at aol.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 22:26:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Even George W. Bush knows he committed a
 "wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq"
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References: <07a09f7a-d066-2c37-73fd-ac8433c244e6@forestfield.org>
Message-ID: <350169651.688542.1653171970864@mail.yahoo.com>

GW may blame his confession of guilt on a "Freudian slip," but it's really a slip of a guilty conscience...
midge?


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From: J.B. Nicholson via Peace-discuss <peadiscuss at lists.chambana.net>
,Sent: Thu, May 19, 2022 10:16 pm
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Even George W. Bush knows he committed a "wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq"

https://rumble.com/v15bagr-bush-slams-unjustified-invasion-of-iraq.html

> In contrast, Russian elections are rigged. Political opponents are imprisoned or
> otherwise eliminated from participating in the electoral process. The result is an
> absence of checks and balances in Russia, and the decision of one man to launch a
> wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq. I mean, of Ukraine. [Mutters]
> Iraq. Anyway. I'm 75. [laughter] Uh. [...]

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From jbn at forestfield.org  Sun May 22 02:35:17 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 21:35:17 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Ben Norton left The Grayzone and now runs
 Multipolarista
Message-ID: <c1d9265e-be2d-5d11-2043-c86627eb2338@forestfield.org>

According to https://youtube.com/watch?v=zJy0VXn-wN0 Ben Norton said he "was forced 
to create a whole new YouTube channel". It's not clear by whom he was allegedly 
forced, but since he was able to upload a new video there I'm guessing the forcing 
came from Max Blumenthal. There was a video on 
https://youtube.com/channel/UCNiXhsI4QtmQaeICpT-k7BQ announcing Norton's new channel 
but that video is no longer listed. That video is much like 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zJy0VXn-wN0 .

I don't know why Norton left The Grayzone and Norton didn't say why in either video 
I've seen on this issue. "Ben Norton ? Assistant editor, reporter, video producer" is 
(as of the time/datestamp on this email) listed in https://thegrayzone.com/about/ and 
mentioned in quotes from supportive other people on the same webpage.

Moderate Rebels (the show Norton & Blumenthal co-hosted) ended in January 2022. 
Multipolarista is now up and running at https://multipolarista.com/ and 
https://youtube.com/channel/UCwlvSJdcMc7iGdR-aducSog .

From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Sun May 22 15:19:22 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 11:19:22 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?J_Street=3A_We_took_on_AIPAC=E2=80=99s?=
 =?utf-8?q?_millions_and_won_=F0=9F=92=AA?=
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Look how mean ol' J Street is brazenly taunting poor little AIPAC now,
kicking sand in AIPAC's face, stealing AIPAC's lunch money.

Poor little AIPAC. *How they suffer!*

Isn't it *wonderful*? What a *mitzvah*! *Mazl tov!*

Imagine, now, if Jessica Cisneros and All Her Friends and Relations defeat
Henry Cuellar and Nancy Pelosi and AIPAC and the Democratic Establishment
and Its Oligarchs in Texas 28 on Tuesday.

No celebration in America will be more raucous than the rejoicing of the
JWOTA, the Jews Who Openly Troll AIPAC. *#SayTheirName!*

It will be like a Hungarian wedding.

The party will go on all night long.

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From: Laura Birnbaum, J Street <info at jstreet.org>
Date: Wed, May 18, 2022 at 5:46 PM
Subject: We took on AIPAC?s millions and won ?
To: Mr. Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>


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Robert,

Last night -- after battling against an unprecedented $3 million of AIPAC
and DMFI spending against her -- J Street-supported candidate Summer Lee
triumphed over her AIPAC-backed opponent in Pennsylvania?s 12th District.

*She was one of several J Street-backed candidates who won on a night that
brought exciting wins and significant lessons for our movement.*

The margin in Lee?s race was extremely close, just 446 votes at the most
recent count -- with that number likely to grow as final precincts are
tallied.

[image: CNN graphic showing close race]

Every dollar and every phone call made a difference. Standing with a wide
range of allies, JStreetPAC and our new independent expenditures arm, the J
Street Action Fund, helped a principled candidate who supports
diplomacy-first American leadership triumph over *AIPAC?s largest-ever
negative ad blitz.*

In Oregon, J Street endorsee Andrea Salinas overcame an unbelievable $13
million in outside spending from billionaire-funded crypto SuperPACs. In
North Carolina and Pennsylvania, J Street-supported candidates Cheri
Beasley and John Fetterman advanced to the general election in battleground
states.

*At the same time, we saw the devastating and ominous impact that AIPAC?s
overwhelming Democratic primary spending can have.* In North Carolina?s 4th
district, conservative Don Davis defeated J Street endorsee Erica Smith
after AIPAC and their allies spent $2.9 million -- more than both leading
candidates? campaigns combined.

*We should take a moment to be proud of our victories, but we also need to
get to work. To overcome intensive right-wing attacks and keep electing
pro-Israel, pro-peace champions across the country, we need to mobilize
like never before.*

Next Tuesday, J Street endorsee Jessica Cisneros faces off against
AIPAC-supported Congressman Henry Cuellar, who has faced heavy criticism as
the last anti-abortion Democrat in the House. We cannot afford to wake up
next Wednesday to find out we fell just a few votes short -- we have to
leave everything on the field.

*Below we highlight four priority primary races in the weeks and months
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<https://act.jstreet.org/go/229263?t=3&akid=310322%2E486570%2ElKwNE1>*

These candidates are current and future champions who are likely to face a
deluge of right-wing spending and attacks. We cannot let groups like AIPAC
-- who simultaneously fundraise for extremist, Trump-aligned Republicans --
decide the future of American politics and foreign policy. We cannot let
their right-wing, hawkish vision dominate the Democratic party and threaten
the future of Israelis and Palestinians.

*As Summer Lee showed us last night: When we stand together, we can win.*

Laura Birnbaum
National Political Director, J Street
Four Priority Primaries

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Next Tuesday Jessica Cisneros in TX-28 faces off against AIPAC-backed
incumbent Henry Cuellar -- the very last anti-choice Democrat in the House
of Representatives.

The runoff follows a first round that saw less than 1,000 votes separating
the pair. Just like with Lee, polls show Cisneros is on a knife-edge.

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From jbn at forestfield.org  Sun May 22 19:45:08 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 14:45:08 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Recommended videos for AWARE on the Air,
 News from Neptune, and Labor's World View TV
Message-ID: <39947887-d435-7204-27b5-0ab0fd49a948@forestfield.org>

Here are the videos I recommended to run during AWARE on the Air, News from Neptune, 
and Labor's World View TV.

As a reminder: If anyone else has anything to run, please feel free to get your video 
pointers to UPTV (UPTV at urbanaillinois.us). I have continued to ask UPTV to prioritize 
AWARE members video pointers over mine for AWARE on the Air, Carl Estabrook & David 
Green's video pointers over mine for News from Neptune, and David Johnson's video 
pointers over mine for Labor's World View TV.

Enjoy.
-J





News from Neptune & AWARE on the Air
==================================================

Consortium News

Joe Lauria What we risk if we lose Assange PEN Writers for Peace
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1fsV9-BYqbs

Uro? Lipu??ek - Censorship & Julian Assange - PEN International Writers for Peace 
Conference 2022
https://youtube.com/watch?v=f6ZrXdCSqtY

Joe Lauria on Western censorship at PEN International Writers for Peace Conference
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eoSBUBo4k20

Kristinn Hrafnsson at UK Home Office - May 17 2022
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_BCPYY7eGWc

Stella Assange addresses large crowd outside UK Home Office
https://youtube.com/watch?v=md9aBUZ0Q1Q


Double Down News

The CIA Plot to Kill My Husband Julian Assange | Stella Assange
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3u8xedWY2Ek



The Socialist Program with Brian Becker (BreakThrough News)

Summit of Americas Collapsing: Region Says NO to Exclusion of Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JstKLKreFVg

Escalation in Ukraine: The Nuclear War Danger is Real -- interview with Greg Mello
https://youtube.com/watch?v=W2QjDGvQU2Y

Ukraine: From Proxy War to Nuclear War? -- interview with Eugene Puryear
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7vbY4uRIpKk



MintPressNews

Guantanamo Bay and the US Global Empire, with Todd E. Pierce
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ejJHLxqmws4



RT

French ex-soldier back from Ukraine denounces his country's arming of Azov fighters
https://rumble.com/v15jguj-french-ex-soldier-back-from-ukraine-denounces-his-countrys-arming-of-azov-f.html

Bush slams 'unjustified' invasion of? Iraq
https://rumble.com/v15bagr-bush-slams-unjustified-invasion-of-iraq.html



Multipolarista

What is 'socialism with Chinese characteristics'? Inside China's economic model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wJwhkRz4Lk





Labor's World View TV
==================================================

laborvideo

Italian Workers Strike Against NATO Imperialist War In Ukraine-Report By Si Cobas 
Roberto Luzzi
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AM9wkHs2QIA



More Perfect Union

Workers Overcome Union-Busting At Gatorade Factory
https://youtube.com/watch?v=waK8YLqD3bU

Amazon Workers Walk Out To Demand Raises And Time Off
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KKGphcKJ6jI

Trader Joe's Workers Launch Historic Union Drive
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mbMaElwDNzI



Democracy at Work

Today's First Steps to A Better Economy - David Harvey's Anti-Capitalist Chronicles
https://youtube.com/watch?v=smrrcsBki74

Ask Prof Wolff: Economic Implications of Abortion Access
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Tq5zbeTBDOM

Ask Prof Wolff: 3 Ways Government Has Historically Curbed Inflation
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rM_SN-QCmNk

Jobs: Making Americans into Robots - Economic Update with Richard Wolff
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XsCCCthf-mU

Why Food Prices Are Rising - Economic Update with Richard Wolff
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LDs62mgRx2g

Economic Update: Jobs Driving Us Mad
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bFG26h433Vs

From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Sun May 22 21:22:08 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 16:22:08 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] No Way Out but War
Message-ID: <E4F7776F-5B32-4434-A9E4-A730D6DE35B7@newsfromneptune.com>

https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/no-way-out-but-war


From davidgreen50 at gmail.com  Mon May 23 11:47:16 2022
From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 06:47:16 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] No Way Out but War
In-Reply-To: <E4F7776F-5B32-4434-A9E4-A730D6DE35B7@newsfromneptune.com>
References: <E4F7776F-5B32-4434-A9E4-A730D6DE35B7@newsfromneptune.com>
Message-ID: <CAOiGAyHUL7cuhLFcFQ2fRDAKVG1+ceGVQNXqCWzMtDhWQmmG1g@mail.gmail.com>

Hedges continues to apply the word "fascism" inappropriately, which
undermines the credibility of his analysis, much of which is of course
correct.

DG

On Sun, May 22, 2022, 4:22 PM C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/no-way-out-but-war
>
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From moboct1 at aol.com  Mon May 23 15:25:44 2022
From: moboct1 at aol.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 15:25:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] David Green:  No Way Out but War
In-Reply-To: <CAOiGAyHUL7cuhLFcFQ2fRDAKVG1+ceGVQNXqCWzMtDhWQmmG1g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E4F7776F-5B32-4434-A9E4-A730D6DE35B7@newsfromneptune.com>
 <CAOiGAyHUL7cuhLFcFQ2fRDAKVG1+ceGVQNXqCWzMtDhWQmmG1g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1131766630.987811.1653319544631@mail.yahoo.com>

Dave:??
How so does Hedges use the term fascism "inappropriately"?? The classic use of the term (in the Mussolini era) was a nationalist military and corporatist syndicate for the purpose of authoritarian control of the Italian populace and expansion to other nations.? Does the U.S. not qualify as a military-corporate-political authoritarian expansionist syndicate???
Midge?

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To: C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com>
Cc: Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; Peace <peace at anti-war.net>
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2022 6:47 am
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] No Way Out but War

Hedges continues to apply the word "fascism" inappropriately, which undermines the credibility of his analysis, much of which is of course correct.
DG
On Sun, May 22, 2022, 4:22 PM C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/no-way-out-but-war

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From davidgreen50 at gmail.com  Mon May 23 15:42:37 2022
From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 10:42:37 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] David Green: No Way Out but War
In-Reply-To: <1131766630.987811.1653319544631@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <E4F7776F-5B32-4434-A9E4-A730D6DE35B7@newsfromneptune.com>
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Message-ID: <CAOiGAyGSmadd88Gzi0X2Xe8AK+6Hk5qztJdWUcJLAAZUhOJDvg@mail.gmail.com>

In using the term "fascism", Hedges carelessly aligns himself with those
who demonize Trump and Putin, neither of whom are "fascist", for the
ultimate purpose of supporting US militarism. Kind of ironic don't you
think?

On Mon, May 23, 2022, 10:26 AM Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> Dave:
>
> How so does Hedges use the term fascism "inappropriately"?  The classic
> use of the term (in the Mussolini era) was a nationalist military and
> corporatist syndicate for the purpose of authoritarian control of the
> Italian populace and expansion to other nations.  Does the U.S. not qualify
> as a military-corporate-political authoritarian expansionist syndicate?
>
> Midge
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Green via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> To: C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com>
> Cc: Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; Peace <peace at anti-war.net>
> Sent: Mon, May 23, 2022 6:47 am
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] No Way Out but War
>
> Hedges continues to apply the word "fascism" inappropriately, which
> undermines the credibility of his analysis, much of which is of course
> correct.
>
> DG
>
> On Sun, May 22, 2022, 4:22 PM C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>
> https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/no-way-out-but-war
>
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From moboct1 at aol.com  Tue May 24 14:32:02 2022
From: moboct1 at aol.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 14:32:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] End US support for war
In-Reply-To: <abaee3eb-519d-b6da-3785-12090d5ff05d@forestfield.org>
References: <90BB072A-F326-421A-9241-A086E7025E49@newsfromneptune.com>
 <abaee3eb-519d-b6da-3785-12090d5ff05d@forestfield.org>
Message-ID: <957327286.1267611.1653402722336@mail.yahoo.com>

Talk about single-issue voting, although Rep. Chip (R. TX) made ONE significant vote, ie against funding $40 B to Ukraine (already more than $55+), where were the other "fiscally responsible" Repugnantcans--OR Democrazys?), he's probably more concerned about inflation than against the US-NATO war.? I can't find the intestinal fortitude to sing praises for the? former staffer for Sen. Ted Cruz and adviser to Sen. John Coryn, or other such Texas loose cannon Congressmen over one vote (that lost).? How did he/they vote on Biden's proxy war in Ukraine? Most other Republicans in Congress, including their Senate majority leader, support Biden's war policies.? Taiwan next??
Midge


-----Original Message-----
From: J.B. Nicholson via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Sent: Thu, May 19, 2022 10:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] End US support for war

C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> Republicans are the only members of Congress voting against the administration?s
> massive spending on its proxy war in Ukraine.
 From https://www.rt.com/news/555717-chip-roy-ukraine-war/

> ?I?m wondering when we voted to go to war?? ? US Congressman
> 
> Chip Roy accused his fellow lawmakers of waging a ?proxy war? so they can ?look
> all fancy with our blue and yellow ribbons?
> 
> Congressman Chip Roy (R-Texas) has condemned House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer for
> stating that the US is ?at war,? presumably with Russia. Roy hammered Democrats
> and Republicans alike for deepening America?s involvement in the Ukraine conflict
> in order to ?feel good about ourselves.?
> 
> In a video clip posted by Roy?s press office on Wednesday, the Texas Republican
> took aim at Hoyer for declaring on Friday that the US is ?at war,? and that
> critics of the Democratic Party should ?focus on the enemy? instead of rising
> energy costs at home.
> 
> ?When I hear the majority leader of the other party say ?a time of war?...I?m
> wondering when we voted to go to war?? Roy said.
> 
> ?If we're gonna have a proxy war, and we're gonna give $40 billion to Ukraine,
> because we want to look all fancy with our blue and yellow ribbons and feel good
> about ourselves, maybe we should actually have a debate in this chamber,? he
> continued.
> 
> Roy was one of 57 House Republicans who voted against the passage of the $40
> billion military and economic aid bill for Ukraine earlier this month. However,
> the bill had strong bipartisan support and passed with 368 votes to 57. It is now
> expected to pass the Senate later this week.
> 
> Republican lawmakers opposing the bill either argue that the money would be better
> spent solving domestic issues or that pumping military aid into Ukraine risks
> drawing the US into war with nuclear-armed Russia, or both.
> 
> Roy, who described the bill as ?garbage,? reiterated these arguments on Wednesday.
> ?When the border of this country is wide open?and fentanyl is pouring in and we
> have $30.5 trillion of debt and gas prices are spiking and $1,100 to fill a tank
> of diesel, and we go ?oh, blank check for $40 billion.?
> 
> ?By the way, I?m looking at my colleagues on this side of the aisle on that same
> point,? he concluded.
> 
> Aside from supporting the $40 billion package making its way through Congress, the
> Biden administration has already given Ukraine nearly $4 billion worth of weapons
> since February, has placed an embargo on Russian oil and gas imports, and imposed
> several rounds of economic sanctions on Moscow.
> 
> With the US arming Ukraine and sharing intelligence with Kiev?s forces, Russian
> Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has accused Washington of waging a ?proxy war?
> against Russia, while Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolay Patrushev claimed
> on Tuesday that the West has used Ukraine as pretext to fight an ?undeclared war?
> against Russia?s ?very statehood.?

Related:

?Russia not our enemy? ? US congressman [Paul Gosar (R-Arizona)]
https://www.rt.com/news/555388-paul-gosar-putin-ukraine/

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From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Tue May 24 20:53:47 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 15:53:47 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Twenty-Two House Republicans Demand Accountability
 on Biden's $40b War Spending
Message-ID: <ED11F7A3-37FA-4768-8E66-46AFAB635FAC@newsfromneptune.com>

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/twenty-two-house-republicans-demand


From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Wed May 25 01:43:43 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 20:43:43 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Tragedy in Texas
References: <B9.24.19243.C888D826@asv11mtam003.ngpweb.com>
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> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: "Liz Dunning" <brady at bradyunited.org>
> Subject: Tragedy in Texas
> Date: May 24, 2022 at 8:38:17 PM CDT
> To: "C G ESTABROOK" <cgestabrook at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: brady at bradyunited.org
> 
> 	
>  
> C G,
>  
> This. Isn?t. Normal. No other country has to live this way.
>  
> But, in the United States, we are witnessing another devastating massacre ? this time in Uvalde, TX, at an elementary school where 18 children and two adults were shot and killed. We are holding our kids and grandkids a little closer tonight. I have a pit in my stomach that this is the nation that my kids, all of our kids, have to grow up in. One where they have to worry if they are next, when they go to school.
>  
> This tragedy is horrifying, enraging, but not surprising. Not anymore.
> 
> This is the norm in our country, and it?s the only country of its kind. Where a school is not a safe place, but one where our children practice school shooter drills because they are at constant threat of gun violence. 
> This is our country: Elementary school children have once again been massacred because we refuse to address the nation?s gun violence epidemic. Congress?s inaction remains as constant as the tragedies we witness.
>  
> Our country is in mourning agains and families, forever changed, are overwhelmed with grief. It?s grief like mine and like anyone?s who has lost a loved one to gun violence. This cycle will continue in our country unless we take bold, lifesaving action once and for all.
> So, I remain steadfast in this fight while making space for grief. Because I know a better country is possible, but only if all of us fiercely support this work and each other.
> Thank you for continuing to fight, even when it?s hardest. We won't stop until our children are finally safe. 
> Yours, 
>  
> Liz Dunning
> Gun Violence Survivor
> Vice President, Development
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From moboct1 at aol.com  Wed May 25 14:41:03 2022
From: moboct1 at aol.com (Mildred O'brien)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 14:41:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Tragedy in Texas
In-Reply-To: <10726F67-9A71-4208-995B-29BCA449E979@newsfromneptune.com>
References: <B9.24.19243.C888D826@asv11mtam003.ngpweb.com>
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Message-ID: <995063641.1560937.1653489663406@mail.yahoo.com>

Well, whadda ya expect of a bellicose nation constantly in search of "enemies" and proxy armies to fight them.? Before WW II almost every rural homestead had a "blunderbuss" or shotgun to eliminate the threat of wildcats or mad dogs and occasionally to provide food for the table. But since then the NRA has become a power to profit the private arms industry and appeal to those with macho ambitions.??

Once a permit to own small arms became a state requirement, the membership in NRA increased and was enriched and? challenged to legalize all kinds of weaponry, especially with returning veterans trained "to kill" in the military and the dumping of military type weapons on local police force.? When the police became armed with advanced weaponry it was just a matter of time before the armed populace wanted the same powerful weapons, and licensing laws were loosened followed by lax enforcement or none at all so that it became commonplace for drug syndicates or common criminals and even teenagers who can't?shoot straight to have high-powered weapons for "self defense" against rival gangs (and police) or school students or any defenseless random target.
With the inevitable result of mass gun violence by demented or misguided individuals who should never?have access to lethal means to settle neighborhood grievances or murder innocent victims,?
America is still the Wild West
Midge??

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From: C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
To: Peace <peace at anti-war.net>
Cc: peace-discuss at anti-war.net
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2022 8:44 pm
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Tragedy in Texas




Begin forwarded message:
From: "Liz Dunning" <brady at bradyunited.org>
Subject: Tragedy in Texas
Date: May 24, 2022 at 8:38:17 PM CDT
To: "C G ESTABROOK" <cgestabrook at gmail.com>
Reply-To: brady at bradyunited.org


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| C G,
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This. Isn?t. Normal. No other country has to live this way.
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But, in the United States, we are witnessing another devastating massacre ? this time in Uvalde, TX, at an elementary school where 18 children and two adults were shot and killed. We are holding our kids and grandkids a little closer tonight. I have a pit in my stomach that this is the nation that my kids, all of our kids, have to grow up in. One where they have to worry if they are next, when they go to school.
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This tragedy is horrifying, enraging, but not surprising. Not anymore.

This is the norm in our country, and it?s the only country of its kind. Where a school is not a safe place, but one where our children practice school shooter drills because they are at constant threat of gun violence.? |
| This is our country: Elementary school children have once again been massacred because we?refuse?to address the nation?s gun violence epidemic. Congress?s inaction remains as constant as the tragedies we witness.
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Our country is in mourning agains and families, forever changed, are overwhelmed with grief. It?s grief like mine and like anyone?s who has lost a loved one to gun violence. This cycle will continue in our country unless we take bold, lifesaving action once and for all. |
| So, I remain steadfast in this fight while making space for grief. Because I know a better country is possible, but only if all of us fiercely support this work and each other. |
| Thank you for continuing to fight, even when it?s hardest. We won't stop until our children are finally safe.? |
| Yours,?
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Liz DunningGun Violence SurvivorVice President, Development
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| The first 24 hours after a mass shootings are among the most critical. We have to rise up and show our commitment to endings gun violence now, while all eyes are on this story.?Will you rush a donation right now to help us pass life-saving legislation and end gun violence? |

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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Wed May 25 15:22:11 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 11:22:11 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Jewish Voice 4 Peace: Thank CNN 4 truth-telling re
 Shireen Abu Akleh
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Everybody can do this. Click the button, takes 15 seconds. You can
personalize your tweet. Takes five more seconds.

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*From:* Jewish Voice for Peace <info at jewishvoiceforpeace.org>
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 10:36 AM

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*Subject:* Thank CNN for telling the truth about Palestinian journalist
Shireen Abu Akleh.

Send a message: we need more honest journalism.

Dear Robert,



Renowned Palestinian journalist Shireen Abu Akleh was *targeted* and killed
by the Israeli military ? but the Israeli government refused to even allow
an investigation into Shireen?s death.



*Now CNN?s reporting has established, once and for all, the full role of
the Israeli military.*
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*Click to tweet "Thank You" to CNN *
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But these brave reporters, and even CNN itself, are already coming under
attack for telling the truth. *Can you help make sure CNN doesn?t cave and
continues to tell the truth about Shireen?
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When Shireen was killed, US media was quick to accept the Israeli
military?s version of events. You played a key role in holding them
accountable ? and we saw how The New York Times responded to your emails
and made their reporting less biased. Let?s make sure CNN continues to tell
the truth. *To act now, share this tweet to CNN:
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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Wed May 25 16:54:58 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 12:54:58 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] please help us push Bernie now on introducing Yemen
 WPR
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Please retweet this from Action Corps Vermont to help us press Bernie to
keep his commitment to introduce Yemen WPR along with the House CPC members:

https://twitter.com/MDBaker16613669/status/1529500353103798272

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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Wed May 25 17:50:45 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 13:50:45 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] CNN: New evidence suggests Shireen Abu Akleh was
 killed in targeted attack by Israeli forces
In-Reply-To: <CALMNhNSfiwxf2UoozzK-h2=mFnKxvmVq4mka5vrRb5um2tw5wA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CALMNhNRh9iFQPf0g0CNgZL3bMFrgFgVdyAkP2-5VVqERaPgiXA@mail.gmail.com>

We're always complaining, justly, that the U.S. media is refusing to cover
what the Israeli military is doing with U.S. enabling to Palestinian
civilians.

Well, now they're covering it. Let's see what happens now.

===

"But an investigation by CNN offers new evidence ? including two videos of
the scene of the shooting ? that there was no active combat, nor any
Palestinian militants, near Abu Akleh in the moments leading up to her
death. Videos obtained by CNN, corroborated by testimony from eight
eyewitnesses, an audio forensic analyst and an explosive weapons expert,
suggest that Abu Akleh was shot dead in a targeted attack by Israeli forces.
"

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/24/middleeast/shireen-abu-akleh-jenin-killing-investigation-cmd-intl/index.html

'They were shooting directly at the journalists': New evidence suggests
Shireen Abu Akleh was killed in targeted attack by Israeli forces

By Zeena Saifi <https://edition.cnn.com/profiles/zeena-saifi>, Eliza
Mackintosh <https://edition.cnn.com/profiles/eliza-mackintosh>, Celine
Alkhaldi, Kareem Khadder, Katie Polglase
<https://edition.cnn.com/profiles/katie-polglase> and Gianluca Mezzofiore
<https://edition.cnn.com/profiles/gianluca-mezzofiore>, CNN
Video by Livvy Doherty and Oscar Featherstone, CNN

Updated 2:04 PM ET, Tue May 24, 2022

*This story contains a disturbing image.*

[...]

The shaky video, filmed by Al Jazeera cameraman Majdi Banura, captures the
scene when Abu Akleh, a 51-year-old Palestinian-American was killed by a
bullet to the head at around 6:30 a.m. on May 11. She had been standing
with a group of journalists near the entrance of Jenin refugee camp, where
they had come to cover an Israeli raid. While the footage does not show Abu
Akleh being shot, eyewitnesses told CNN that they believe Israeli forces on
the same street fired deliberately on the reporters in a targeted attack.
All of the journalists were wearing protective blue vests that identified
them as members of the news media.
"We stood in front of the Israeli military vehicles for about five to ten
minutes before we made moves to ensure they saw us. And this is a habit of
ours as journalists, we move as a group and we stand in front of them so
they know we are journalists, and then we start moving," Hanaysha told CNN,
describing their cautious approach toward the Israeli army convoy, before
the gunfire began.
[...]
On the day of the shooting, Israeli military spokesperson Ran Kochav told
Army Radio that Abu Akleh had been "filming and working for a media outlet
amidst armed Palestinians. They're armed with cameras, if you'll permit me
to say so," according to The Times of Israel.
The Israeli military says it is not clear who fired the fatal shot. In
a preliminary
inquiry
<https://www.idf.il/en/articles/2022/findings-from-the-initial-investigation-into-the-shooting-incident-in-which-the-journalist-shireen-abu-akleh-was-killed/>,
the army said there was a possibility Abu Akleh was hit either by
indiscriminate Palestinian gunfire, or by an Israeli sniper positioned
about 200 meters (about 656 feet) away in an exchange of fire with
Palestinian gunmen ? though neither Israel nor anyone else has provided
evidence showing armed Palestinians within a clear line of fire from Abu
Akleh.
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said on May 19 that it had not yet decided
whether to pursue a criminal investigation into Abu Akleh's death. On
Monday, the Israeli military's top lawyer, Major General Yifat
Tomer-Yerushalmi, said in a speech that under the military's policy, a
criminal investigation is not automatically launched if a person is killed
in the "midst of an active combat zone," unless there is credible and
immediate suspicion of a criminal offense. United States lawmakers, the
United Nations and the international community have all called for an
independent probe.
But an investigation by CNN offers new evidence ? including two videos of
the scene of the shooting ? that there was no active combat, nor any
Palestinian militants, near Abu Akleh in the moments leading up to her
death. Videos obtained by CNN, corroborated by testimony from eight
eyewitnesses, an audio forensic analyst and an explosive weapons expert,
suggest that Abu Akleh was shot dead in a targeted attack by Israeli forces.
[...]
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From naiman.uiuc at gmail.com  Wed May 25 18:17:31 2022
From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com (Robert Naiman)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 14:17:31 -0400
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Isaac4VT: Biden on Yemen war vs. Biden on gun
 violence in Texas
In-Reply-To: <CALMNhNRwWmRi8TmHpiPNhqu1NJ2RPaFY1AEEbiT7kKKKtR=4PA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALMNhNRwWmRi8TmHpiPNhqu1NJ2RPaFY1AEEbiT7kKKKtR=4PA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALMNhNS3sJxggSB9nBgvTJAXZiaVqcxDYSSakqDGqc6DEwiEfg@mail.gmail.com>

Please RT:

https://twitter.com/isaacforvt/status/1529524096559628289

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From jbn at forestfield.org  Tue May 31 00:01:51 2022
From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2022 19:01:51 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Recommended videos for AWARE on the Air,
 News from Neptune, and Labor's World View TV
Message-ID: <0ff528cc-6c41-6d07-bf61-4a976479fbae@forestfield.org>

Here are the videos I recommended to run during AWARE on the Air, News from Neptune, 
and Labor's World View TV.

As a reminder: If anyone else has anything to run, please feel free to get your video 
pointers to UPTV (UPTV at urbanaillinois.us). I have continued to ask UPTV to prioritize 
AWARE members video pointers over mine for AWARE on the Air, Carl Estabrook & David 
Green's video pointers over mine for News from Neptune, and David Johnson's video 
pointers over mine for Labor's World View TV.

Enjoy.
-J



News from Neptune & AWARE on the Air
==================================================

RT

A political hoax? Revelations about Hillary Clinton?s presidential campaign emerge
https://rumble.com/v15xk47-a-political-hoax-revelations-about-hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-e.html





Glenn Greenwald

Nicolle Wallace: "The Typhoid Mary of Disinformation"
https://rumble.com/v15xkey-nicolle-wallace-the-typhoid-mary-of-disinformation.html





acTVism Munich

"Julian is a symbol of the freedom of speech" - Stella Moris
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fAnUtEi7-l0
https://rumble.com/v15y2ly-julian-is-a-symbol-of-the-freedom-of-speech-stella-moris.html




The Grayzone

Intel-gate exposed, Nina's disinfo board 'paused' w/ Ray McGovern
https://youtube.com/watch?v=sIYSo61YGig




John Pilger

Paying the Price - Killing the Children of Iraq
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q1yPgJRU2NI




The Socialist Program with Brian Becker

Doves Die in Ukraine: When Did Liberals Turn On Peace? With Eugene Puryear
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RiO3mK3xiPw





Labor's World View TV
==================================================

More Perfect Union

Los Angeles Strippers Are Unionizing
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KH9fezxNSEQ



laborvideo

Tesla Worker Speaks Out At Twitter: Elon Musks Union Busting Tactics Of Intimidation 
& Threats
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wjTdtdwau8g

The Corporate Capture Of OSHA & US Government Corruption Cover-up With OSHA Lawyer 
Darrell Whitman
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9bdNcG0hnY8

On 20th Anniversary of US AFL-CIO Supported Venezuela Coup Dr. Margaret Flowers 
Speaks Out
https://youtube.com/watch?v=l2DEm-MLjyQ

Chris Hedges On Imperialist Wars, Capitalist Media & The Censorship
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iHUjDdEz0Xw



Democracy at Work

Organizing is an Antidote to Isolation - Capitalism Hits Home
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ka-K3Eg7Nzw

Ask Prof Wolff: Gas Taxes and Inflation
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Tvr0DBMR1pg

Ask Prof Wolff: How Worker Co-ops Handle Bankruptcy
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5K9WMhmdZW0

GOP Puppets Try to Stop Student Debt Cancellation - Economic Update with Richard Wolff
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2YZ7ok4yYxg

From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Tue May 31 17:48:10 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 12:48:10 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] SCOTT RITTER: Phase Three in Ukraine
Message-ID: <0B9692AD-77E0-497C-B437-6F33884CF2B9@newsfromneptune.com>

Here is the link to the article: https://consortiumnews.com/2022/05/30/scott-ritter-phase-three-in-ukraine/

From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Tue May 31 18:12:38 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 13:12:38 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?The_New_York_Times=E2=80=99_Shift_on_V?=
 =?utf-8?q?ictory_in_Ukraine?=
Message-ID: <BD0D24C1-3AEC-4E49-ADF5-B165EEA5DFE7@newsfromneptune.com>

Here is the link to the article: https://consortiumnews.com/2022/05/27/the-new-york-times-shift-on-victory-in-ukraine/

From carl at newsfromneptune.com  Tue May 31 21:26:09 2022
From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 16:26:09 -0500
Subject: [Peace-discuss] The Biden Administration Is in No Rush to Help
 Ukraine Negotiate an End to the War | Branko Marcetic | Jacobin
References: <3CE84200-10DB-4F9E-896E-3B1E35606DDC@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <ED98546D-FC96-4FCA-919C-8A48D11DFEB3@newsfromneptune.com>

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2022/05/peace-talks-diplomacy-negotiations-ukraine-russia-war-biden-johnson

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