From jbn at forestfield.org Sun Jun 4 04:28:52 2023 From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2023 23:28:52 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Where is the world economy going? The Duran has some news on this. Message-ID: <47978c46-17ee-4b0b-b11d-e9c5f8af6db3@forestfield.org> Modi and Lula, done dealing with Zelensky. BRICS new currency https://rumble.com/v2rtqxy-modi-and-lula-done-dealing-with-zelensky.-brics-new-currency.html One of the highlights: - Why did Zelensky recently stand up meeting with Lula? Because Zelensky had earlier met with Modi and Modi told Zelensky that the only way out of this war is negotiation and that Modi will help if Zelensky is serious, meaning no more of this anti-Russian sanction talk. Zelensky left that meeting fuming angry and didn't want to get more of the same talk from Lula. And on the Western (NATO) proxy war against Russia via Ukraine: Putin signals, leadership change in Kiev https://rumble.com/v2rn4hm-putin-signals-leadership-change-in-kiev.html A couple highlights: - It's the NATO side of the war that is running out of ammo -- Russia is said to vastly outproduce NATO. - The coming war escalation was said to be earlier and got delayed to this summer and (as of 2023-06-02) hasn't occurred. - Ukraine might be significantly changed by the end of this conflict; under new leadership and possibly with a new name. -J From jbn at forestfield.org Mon Jun 5 02:50:49 2023 From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2023 21:50:49 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft: Defense Contractor Funded Think Tanks Dominate Ukraine Debate Message-ID: <6cd64aff-adf8-11de-de42-9d7401bb4dfa@forestfield.org> Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft report https://quincyinst.org/report/defense-contractor-funded-think-tanks-dominate-ukraine-debate/ Other coverage is scarce https://rumble.com/v2s0816-pentagon-funded-think-tanks-dominate-ukraine-debate.html https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/weapons-industry-ukraine https://newkontinent.org/how-weapons-firms-influence-the-ukraine-debate/ https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/how-weapon-firms-profit-from-ukraine-war:-report I'm not seeing establishment-friendly coverage on this topic yet. From jbn at forestfield.org Tue Jun 6 05:53:52 2023 From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 00:53:52 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] =?utf-8?q?The_Democratic_Party_sheepdogging_cont?= =?utf-8?b?aW51ZXPigJRSb2JlcnQgRi4gS2VubmVkeSwgSnIu?= Message-ID: Margaret Kimberley continues the legacy Bruce Dixon left in https://www.blackagendareport.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr-sheepdogging-and-liberal-fantasy > There is an understandable yearning for a progressive president. But like dreams > of happily ever after endings, the fantasy is just that. > > In 2015, Black Agenda Report co-founder Bruce Dixon coined the term ?sheepdog?[1] to > describe the role that Bernie Sanders would play in the 2016 presidential > campaign. Dixon presciently said, ?Bernie's job is to warm up the crowd for > Hillary, herding activist energies and the disaffected left back into the > Democratic fold one more time. Bernie aims to tie up activist energies and > resources till the summer of 2016 when the only remaining choice will be the usual > lesser of two evils.? The word stuck and since that time the question is rightly > asked whether a particular democratic challenger is serious about getting the > nomination or is merely a sheepdog who will herd supporters back into the hands of > their party?s oligarchy. > > That question arises again now that Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.[2] has announced his > presidential campaign. Kennedy obviously has the advantage of name recognition, > and he isn?t shy about making frequent references to ?my uncle? and ?my father.? > Yet he is attractive to leftists in the party because he is willing to take > positions in opposition to its established orthodoxy. He does make the obligatory > references to Russia?s ?brutal invasion? of Ukraine but he also points out what no > one in the Democratic Party will say, that the war was provoked[3] by U.S. actions > and he calls the billions of dollars in allocations to the Ukrainian government a > ?money laundering operation for the military industrial complex.? > > Yet Kennedy also falls back into line if pressured. He said that the CIA > assassinated his uncle John F. Kennedy, and he points out the many CIA > interventions around the world as a practice he would end as president, but he > backtracks[4] if criticized, making a lie out of his pronouncements. ?The majority of > people working at the CIA are good, patriotic people committed to their missions > and the law. My own daughter-in-law was a field agent, and she is among the > bravest people I have known.? > > He certainly got the zionist message about Israel[5]. Kennedy praised musician Roger > Waters for his opposition to the war in Ukraine but then deleted his comment on > twitter because Waters also opposes Israeli apartheid. For good measure he added > meaningless blather about the ?aspirations of the Palestinian people.? After being > called out when he ran for cover, he then deleted his comments which rescinded his > first comment. > > There is another issue aside from Kennedy?s willingness to back pedal when > criticized for taking the positions he claims to run against. Will his supporters > end up like those who worked for Jesse Jackson, Dennis Kucinich, or Bernie > Sanders, who believed in their candidate only to be told that they had to support > Mondale or Dukakis or Kerry or Clinton or Biden? One must ask, what is the point > of going out on a limb yet again when history gives a strong indication of how > this campaign will end? > > The selective amnesia of many Kennedy supporters indicates another problem with > what passes for left politics in this country. People here have been so thoroughly > indoctrinated about the value of electoral politics that they believe it is the > only way to bring about the changes they want to see. The end result is the search > for a savior, the belief that we can vote our way out of a situation created by > the oligarchy which controls both wings of the duopoly. It is comforting to think > that the right president would end capitalist exploitation and imperialism but > such a belief, while understandable, doesn?t hold water. > > Would the military industrial complex suddenly disappear if Kennedy were > president? Would the democrats and republicans who are bought off by big oil, big > pharma, big agriculture, big healthcare, and other powerful interests suddenly > throw off the shackles they happily accepted? Would their patrons allow them to do > so even if they were so inclined? The answer to all of these questions is a > resounding, ?No.? Both parties are run by capitalists who have not gone to a lot > of trouble to maintain their hold on the system only to give it all up because > some democrats can?t end their habit of engaging in wishful thinking. > > Robert F. Kennedy Jr. takes positions that need to be heard. It is good that a > presidential candidate opposes U.S. interventions around the world and pledges to > end the censorship that the state and big tech carry out. But there?s no savior, > just the hard work of mobilizing left movements. Kennedy speaks of the need for a > "peaceful revolution." It isn't clear that revolutions can be peaceful, but they > certainly won't come from U.S. presidential politics. > > The question is the same. It doesn't change every four years. How do we mobilize > against interests that won't be placated, whose imperatives are antithetical to > human needs? They don't care if leftists want to believe that Robert F. Kennedy, > Jr. can win the Democratic Party nomination and become president. They won't be > wished away. > > Margaret Kimberley is the author of Prejudential: Black America and the > Presidents[6]. You can support her work on Patreon[7] and also find it on the Twitter[8] > and Telegram[9] platforms. She can be reached via email at > margaret.kimberley(at)blackagendareport.com. [1] https://www.blackagendareport.com/bernie-sanders-sheepdog-4-hillary [2] https://www.kennedy24.com/ [3] https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1661478810926317568?s=20 [4] https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1655672647852630023?s=20 [5] https://twitter.com/jewssf/status/1663209225177251844?s=20 [6] https://www.blackagendareport.com/bit.ly/3fnaWYU [7] https://www.patreon.com/margaretkimberley [8] https://twitter.com/freedomrideblog [9] https://t.me/MargaretKimberley -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: kennedy waters.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 106498 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jbn at forestfield.org Thu Jun 8 00:00:30 2023 From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 19:00:30 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tucker Carlson is telling the truth about war and the establishment doesn't like that Message-ID: Tucker Carlson's twitter.com page https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson Episode 1 https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1666203439146172419 He's got around 92.5 million views so far (see attached) and that's after roughly 1 day of his first video being online. He's telling the truth about the proxy war against Russia via Ukraine. The establishment has no response that sticks. Taylor Lorenz's response is typical of the establishment response: they're all struggling to come up with something relevant and biting to say in response to Carlson's video or the enormous audience Carlson's video is garnering (see attached). To put Carlson's viewership in perspective, consider recent ratings from other US cable news: From https://fortune.com/2023/03/30/cnn-ratings-tank-chris-licht-new-vision/ in March 2023 around the time when Tucker Carlson's Fox News show was ended: > Fox averaged 2.09 million viewers in prime time in March, with MSNBC at 1.14 > million and CNN at 473,000, Nielsen said. https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/here-are-cable-news-ratings-for-april-2023/529610/ > Despite fierce competition from the NBA Playoffs on TNT and ESPN, the Stanley Cup > Playoffs on ESPN and TBS, as well as Tucker Carlson?s highly-publicized exit late > last month, Fox News maintained its status as the most-watched basic cable > network both in total day and in primetime. > > According to Nielsen live plus same day data for April, FNC averaged 1.29 million > total day viewers, 2.07 million total primetime viewers and and marked 26 > consecutive months as the top-rated cable news network in total viewers and among > Adults 25-54. In other words, FNC at 1.29 million total day viewers and 2.07 million total primetime viewers is the tops. It only goes down from there. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/joe-rogan-spotify-subscribers-1235134232/ (from April 2022 around the time of his Covid kerfuffle) quoted Joe Rogan saying: > It?s interesting, my subscriptions went up massively ? that?s what?s crazy [...] > During the height of it all, I gained 2 million subscribers. I think it's fair and reasonable to say that Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson are mainstream viewing. All of the old rules about timeslots (shows must be 30 or 60 minutes long) is wrong. You can have a show of any length. It's what you say that matters. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Taylor Lorenz can't handle Tucker Carlson's success.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 85272 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Nicholson) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2023 20:35:33 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Naomi Brockwell: "Assange: The Truth They've Been Hiding from You" Message-ID: <2580f422-7c82-c3fc-faf3-f1ffd7093894@forestfield.org> https://twitter.com/Stella_Assange/status/1666903828992516125 > Must-see backgrounder on the #AssangeCase and why Julian #Assange must be freed! > > Thanks @naomibrockwell I concur with Stella Assange both in that the video is excellent (a must-see) and that Julian Assange must be freed. Just in case Twitter censors the video: https://odysee.com/@NaomiBrockwell:4/Assange:9c https://rumble.com/v2if0as-julian-assange-the-truth-theyve-been-hiding-from-you.html The poster already indicated that the YouTube copy at https://youtube.com/watch?v=oyekPpdjAaU is censored, so that copy is useless as YouTube is increasingly useless. Also check out https://nbtv.substack.com/p/assange-the-truth-theyve-been-hiding which is an article by the same author, on the same subject, with the same arguments. As Brockwell astutely points out: > This case represents a critical juncture for the future of press freedom. > > It doesn?t matter whether you like Assange or not, or whether you?ve bought into > the mainstream narratives against him ? You should be very worried about the fate > of journalism around the world. When powerful individuals can suppress information > to protect their interests, we risk entering a chilling world where truth and > accountability become casualties. From jbn at forestfield.org Fri Jun 9 06:35:45 2023 From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2023 01:35:45 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] The Duran: "Decline of the EU w/ MEP Clare Daly, Alexander Mercouris and Glenn Diesen" Message-ID: <4a5d1c1c-2f98-4a40-5859-a2641e350dd3@forestfield.org> Decline of the EU w/ MEP Clare Daly, Alexander Mercouris and Glenn Diesen https://rumble.com/v2soe5y-decline-of-the-eu-w-mep-clare-daly-alexander-mercouris-and-glenn-diesen.html The excellent MEP Clare Daly is a guest on this episode and it's well worth hearing from her. She points out many things including the MEPs from countries that have switched from saying that they can't object to the war against Russia via Ukraine because the press would have a field day making fun of them to saying that their economies are in a shambles, what is going on, and when is this war going to end? She also said (around 13m): > Every single day we get contacted by [hard to hear -- people] who kind of come up > to you saying 'Love what you're doin'! Keep it goin'! We love that, you've got a > lot of people who agree with you!" and emails across the board, across the board > from every country. The disconnect between the political establishment and the > citizens is massive, massive. Alexander Mercouris concurred with the last point and pointed out that the Green Party are pro-war now, and that there is no anti-war left anymore. Daly follows up with pointing out the shift from anti-war politics to identity politics and that the right benefit from this because the right are talking about the real effect on people's lives. All cards on the table: I enjoy The Duran, I find their commentary to be quite insightful, and I recently bought a hoodie from them to show my support. From jbn at forestfield.org Fri Jun 9 07:13:07 2023 From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2023 02:13:07 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] New York Times is somewhat willing to return to admitting that the Ukrainian military has a Nazi problem Message-ID: From https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html > Ukraine has worked for years through legislation and military restructuring to > contain a fringe far-right movement whose members proudly wear symbols steeped in > Nazi history and espouse views hostile to leftists, L.G.B.T.Q. movements and > ethnic minorities. It's difficult to "contain" a group so small that it's reasonably called "fringe"? > The iconography of these groups, including a skull-and-crossbones patch worn by > concentration camp guards and a symbol known as the Black Sun, now appears with > some regularity on the uniforms of soldiers fighting on the front line, including > soldiers who say the imagery symbolizes Ukrainian sovereignty and pride, not > Nazism. This "fringe" group "now appears with some regularity"? Whether it's the New York Times trying to distance themselves from a losing war, or the other regime media outlets (such as the AP, Time magazine, PBS, Mother Jones, and Reuters to name a few) publishing one too many photos of Ukrainian soldiers with their Nazi/Nazi-inspired patches, tattoos, and coffin insignia, the Gray Lady has almost had enough. The New York Times used to say that Ukraine's Azov battalion was "openly neo-Nazi". Aaron Mat? pointed this out over a year ago on March 18, 2022 in https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1504900833602945024 (see attachments and post). This more recent self-conflicting fraud written by Thomas Gibbons-Neff posted on June 5 used the modern euphemism--calling the neo-Nazis in the Ukraine military "far-right" instead. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From moboct1 at aol.com Mon Jun 12 17:09:41 2023 From: moboct1 at aol.com (moboct1 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 17:09:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace-discuss] New York Times is somewhat willing to return to admitting that the Ukrainian military has a Nazi problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <323644197.1478549.1686589781838@mail.yahoo.com> COULD "SKULL & CROSSBONE" PATCHES INDICATE YALIE SECRET SOCIETY INSTEAD OF NAZIS?? (LOL) MO'B -----Original Message----- From: J.B. Nicholson via Peace-discuss To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net Sent: Fri, Jun 9, 2023 2:13 am Subject: [Peace-discuss] New York Times is somewhat willing to return to admitting that the Ukrainian military has a Nazi problem From https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html > Ukraine has worked for years through legislation and military restructuring to > contain a fringe far-right movement whose members proudly wear symbols steeped in > Nazi history and espouse views hostile to leftists, L.G.B.T.Q. movements and > ethnic minorities. It's difficult to "contain" a group so small that it's reasonably called "fringe"? > The iconography of these groups, including a skull-and-crossbones patch worn by > concentration camp guards and a symbol known as the Black Sun, now appears with > some regularity on the uniforms of soldiers fighting on the front line, including > soldiers who say the imagery symbolizes Ukrainian sovereignty and pride, not > Nazism. This "fringe" group "now appears with some regularity"? Whether it's the New York Times trying to distance themselves from a losing war, or the other regime media outlets (such as the AP, Time magazine, PBS, Mother Jones, and Reuters to name a few) publishing one too many photos of Ukrainian soldiers with their Nazi/Nazi-inspired patches, tattoos, and coffin insignia, the Gray Lady has almost had enough. The New York Times used to say that Ukraine's Azov battalion was "openly neo-Nazi". Aaron Mat? pointed this out over a year ago on March 18, 2022 in https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1504900833602945024 (see attachments and post). This more recent self-conflicting fraud written by Thomas Gibbons-Neff posted on June 5 used the modern euphemism--calling the neo-Nazis in the Ukraine military "far-right" instead._______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbn at forestfield.org Mon Jun 12 22:25:22 2023 From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 17:25:22 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Pepe Escobar's latest from sputnikglobe.com In-Reply-To: <4eaebc4d-b21c-9b94-e7c4-1963ead889d7@forestfield.org> References: <43d4e7e4-652a-d1bf-9c50-9544bac60b3c@forestfield.org> <4eaebc4d-b21c-9b94-e7c4-1963ead889d7@forestfield.org> Message-ID: <3b74f0f1-2327-b864-a464-5102ac674bc9@forestfield.org> Pepe Escobar's latest https://sputnikglobe.com/20230612/pepe-escobar-us-attempts-divide-and-conquer-strategy-against-brics-1111073623.html From jbn at forestfield.org Thu Jun 15 04:44:53 2023 From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 23:44:53 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Recommended recent videos from The Duran, Tucker Carlson Message-ID: Security guarantees w/ Jeffrey Sachs (Live) https://rumble.com/v2u3haq-security-guarantees-w-jeffrey-sachs-live.html The next wave of the counteroffensive w/Scott Ritter (Live) https://rumble.com/v2tx168-the-next-wave-of-the-counteroffensive-wscott-ritter-live.html Tucker Carlson says and points out others who say anti-war things on his new show "Tucker on Twitter" which is very widely watched (far more seen than cable TV news even if only half the twitter.com viewing figures are actual views). So far there are 3 roughly 10-minute episodes. Rumble https://rumble.com/c/TuckeronTwitter Twitter https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson And, finally, a related Glenn Greenwald video about how Fox News is both "Waving the Free Speech Banner, Launches a Flagrant Censorship Campaign Against Tucker" which ran earlier tonight https://rumble.com/v2u72be-system-update-show-99.html From jbn at forestfield.org Fri Jun 16 00:38:10 2023 From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 19:38:10 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] New York Times is somewhat willing to return to admitting that the Ukrainian military has a Nazi problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <140ad5f7-4029-3621-2880-377996b185eb@forestfield.org> New York Times Runs Cover for Nazis in Ukraine https://rumble.com/v2tyscz-new-york-times-runs-cover-for-nazis-in-ukraine.html Aaron "Buzzsaw" Mat? pointing out that the so-called "newspaper of record", the ever-lying New York Times, is continuing its shift from pointing out that the Azov battalion is neo-Nazi, sanctioned by the Ukraine military, is now merely "right-wing" since they're useful to us in the US proxy war against Russia via Ukraine (both before and after NYT language is attached). We back the Ukrainian military including the Azov battalion with our billions of dollars in equipment, services, and money. 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Nicholson) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 17:27:42 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Daniel Ellsberg (1931-2023) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?Pentagon Papers? whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg dies at 92 https://www.rt.com/news/578179-daniel-ellsberg-whistleblower-dead/ > A tireless campaigner against nuclear weapons, Ellsberg was diagnosed with > pancreatic cancer earlier this year > > ?Pentagon Papers? whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg dies at 92?Pentagon Papers? > whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg dies at 92 > > Daniel Ellsberg, a former US military analyst who revealed a years-long campaign > by Washington to hide the true scale of the Vietnam War, has died. Ellsberg passed > away after a short battle with pancreatic cancer, but continued his anti-war > activism until his final days. > > Ellsberg died at his home in Kensington, California, on Friday, according to a > statement from his family. Ellsberg died painlessly, surrounded by his entire > family, his son Robert said. > > Back in March, Ellsberg announced that he had been diagnosed with inoperable > pancreatic cancer, and had been given between three and six months to live. > Ellsberg refused to undergo chemotherapy, and in a final statement to the press > and his supporters, warned that ?the current risk of nuclear war, over Ukraine, is > as great as the world has ever seen.? > > Ellsberg condemned both the US and Russia for maintaining ?first-use? nuclear > doctrines, and called nuclear war plans and drills by both sides ?immoral and > insane.? > > ?Dan Ellsberg was a true American hero,? journalist Glenn Greenwald wrote on > Twitter, pointing out that he ?knowingly risked life in prison to show his fellow > citizens that the US government was lying about the war in Vietnam.? Former CIA > agent and fellow whistleblower John Kiriakou described Ellsberg as a ?giant of > modern American history, of transparency, truth, and human rights,? adding ?we > need more Americans like him.? > > Before he was an anti-nuclear campaigner, Ellsberg was a military analyst with the > RAND Corporation and a committed Cold Warrior. In 1969, while participating in a > government-ordered study on the runup to the Vietnam War, Ellsberg copied > thousands of classified documents detailing the US? deepening involvement in the > conflict long before it openly entered in 1964. > > The papers, which were published in part by the New York Times, also showed how > multiple US administrations lied to the American public about battlefield losses > in Vietnam, while enlarging the scope of the war without public discussion. > > Ellsberg was prosecuted for espionage by the Nixon administration, but the charges > against him were dropped following a mistrial in 1972. Members of Nixon?s White > House Special Investigations Unit illegally wiretapped Ellsberg, before going on > to commit the Watergate break-in that ultimately resulted in Nixon?s resignation > that same year. > > ?When I spoke with Dan one month ago ? who knew well how few grains of sand > remained in his glass ? he assessed the risk of a nuclear exchange to be > escalating beyond 10%,? NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden wrote on Twitter. ?He had > hoped to dedicate his final hours to reducing it, for all those he would leave > behind. A hero to the end.? Glenn Greenwald is about to do a show on "The Greatness of Daniel Ellsberg" -- a great title -- https://rumble.com/v2un1x6-system-update-show-101.html -- it's sure to be well worth watching. From jbn at forestfield.org Fri Jun 16 23:23:59 2023 From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 18:23:59 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Pepe Escobar's latest from sputnikglobe.com In-Reply-To: <3b74f0f1-2327-b864-a464-5102ac674bc9@forestfield.org> References: <43d4e7e4-652a-d1bf-9c50-9544bac60b3c@forestfield.org> <4eaebc4d-b21c-9b94-e7c4-1963ead889d7@forestfield.org> <3b74f0f1-2327-b864-a464-5102ac674bc9@forestfield.org> Message-ID: <29717df7-6280-9058-1539-6c199c49dc4d@forestfield.org> Pepe Escobar's latest https://sputnikglobe.com/20230616/pepe-escobar-russias-new-roadmap-for-multipolar-world-1111204612.html From jbn at forestfield.org Fri Jun 16 23:39:11 2023 From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 18:39:11 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Stella Assange: "America has sunk to Soviet standards", related videos Message-ID: Stella Assange: America has sunk to Soviet standards By Stella Assange Journalists across the world are looking to the west to uphold press freedom and release Julian Assange, his wife writes. https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/ideas/law/human-rights/61784/stella-assange-america-has-sunk-to-soviet-standards > My husband, Julian Assange, is now in his fifth year of imprisonment without > conviction in HMP Belmarsh. The documentary film Ithaka: The Fight to Free > Assange, broadcast recently on ITV, follows Julian?s father, John, and me during > the first two years of Julian?s incarceration and extradition hearings. > > There are glimpses of Julian in the film; he can be heard singing a lullaby over > the phone at one point. Our youngest, who recently turned four, was just weeks old > when Julian was arrested. Ithaka follows our family as we attempt to free Julian > during the pandemic. At first I found it difficult to watch because we look so > vulnerable. But Ithaka has since become a source of optimism for me. > > In cases involving political prisoners, injustice is often allowed to continue for > the simple reason that it is the path of least resistance: to end it would be to > acknowledge fallibility, and consequently reduce public confidence in the criminal > justice system. Or, as Lord Denning more crudely expressed in 1988 (I paraphrase): > ?We wouldn?t have all these campaigns to get the Birmingham Six released if they?d > been hanged. They?d have been forgotten, and the whole community would have been > satisfied.? > > The reason for my optimism is the fact that Julian, though still buried in the > bowels of Belmarsh, and facing a 175-year sentence if extradited to the US, is all > but forgotten. The system that has enabled his imprisonment, on the other hand, is > under mounting challenge. > > The 2022 Booker Prize-winning author Shehan Karunatilaka recently remarked: > ?Julian Assange, divisive figure that he may be?he is a hero to many writers in > South Asia because freedom of speech is not something we take for granted? > Journalism has been criminalised in our parts of the world and so we are looking > to the west to see how this case is prosecuted and how it ends up.? magazine block > image > > There is little doubt that Karunatilaka?s description is representative of the > prism through which most of the world views the case against my husband. And that > concern does not just exist outside the west. > > At Unesco?s World Press Freedom Day event this year, held at the UN in New York, > the secretary general of Amnesty International, Agn?s Callamard, said: ?It is not > just what is happening in Iran or in Russia that should worry us, it is also what > is happening here. Who is imprisoning Julian Assange? Sadly, the playbook of > autocracy, the playbook of control over conscience, or control over speech, has > been well learned by our so-called democratic leaders.? The president of the > Committee to Protect Journalists, Jodie Ginsberg, noted that the US case against > Julian ?if brought to fruition could effectively criminalise journalism anywhere, > for journalists everywhere?. > > Injustice is often allowed to continue for the simple reason that it is the path > of least resistance > > Russia?s trumped-up ?espionage? charges against Wall Street Journal reporter Evan > Gershkovich for his newsgathering activities mirror those brought against Julian > for his newsgathering and publishing. The last US reporter to be prosecuted by > Russia for ?espionage? was Nicholas Daniloff in 1986. The playbook did not > originate in America, but America has sunk to Soviet standards and revived it. It > won?t stop there. That is why the Assange case is the greatest threat to press > freedom worldwide. > > Julian?s US accusers use ?espionage? as shorthand for ?journalism?. They do not > allege that Julian was acting on behalf of?or colluding with?any foreign power. > The WikiLeaks publications expose the killing of tens of thousands of civilians in > Iraq and Afghanistan; document evidence of torture and assassination squads; and > reveal at least one potential war crime involving the slaughter of Reuters > employees in Baghdad. The facts of the case are well-known and uncontested: the > source, Chelsea Manning, was a US army whistleblower who acted on her conscience. > She was sentenced to 35 years. The sentence was commuted by Barack Obama on his > last day in office. > > Julian acted for the public?s benefit, and he is accused?of conspiracy to publish, > and of receiving, obtaining, possessing and communicating ?national defence? > information?under a statute from 1917. The classification system was only invented > 35 years after that law was written. There is no US ?Official Secrets Act?. > ?National defence? information is whatever the US government says it is. > > ??? > > The mood in Julian?s home country has changed decisively since he was first > arrested. An overwhelming majority of Australians?one online poll by the > broadcaster ABC showed 89 per cent?want Julian to be freed. The prime minister, > Anthony Albanese, has been joined by the leader of the opposition in saying that > ?enough is enough?. Public opinion in this critical part of the anglosphere cannot > be ignored. > > So back to Karunatilaka?s point: journalists all over the world are looking to the > west to see whether press freedom is vindicated in this case and Julian is > released. It is more than public confidence in the UK justice system that hangs in > the balance. Recommended related videos include a recent excellent Naomi Brockwell explainer, an update on Assange's situation from The Duran & The Socialist Program, and copies of "Ithaka: The Fight to Free Assange": Assange: The Truth They've Been Hiding from You Naomi Brockwell This video was recommended by Stella Assange this past week. https://rumble.com/v2t3f64-assange-the-truth-theyve-been-hiding-from-you.html The Duran: Assange, one step closer to US extradition https://rumble.com/v2ul4ll-assange-one-step-closer-to-us-extradition.html The Socialist Program: Why Biden Wants Assange in Jail: Case at the Tipping Point https://youtube.com/watch?v=joAMokiAllk Consortium News' channel where you can find in-depth interviews with many people connected to Assange's case https://youtube.com/channel/UCDZuNFwJ4BIRV_Z5IxFXVrA/videos Ithaka: The Fight to Free Assange https://rumble.com/v2k5jmq-ithaka-part-1-of-2-a-fight-to-free-julian-assange.html https://rumble.com/v2k5k8w-ithaka-part-2-of-2-the-extradition-hearing.html Ithaka: The Fight to Free Assange https://rumble.com/v2dyupk-ithaka.-julian-assange-part-1-a-fight-to-free-assange..html https://rumble.com/v2dzn7w-ithaka-part-2-julian-assange..html From carl at newsfromneptune.com Thu Jun 22 02:57:08 2023 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 21:57:08 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: [New post] Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Delivers Anti-War Speech in New Hampshire References: <174340743.43862.0@wordpress.com> Message-ID: > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "scheerpost.com" > Subject: [New post] Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Delivers Anti-War Speech in New Hampshire > Date: June 21, 2023 at 5:27:29 PM CDT > To: carl at newsfromneptune.com > > scheerpost.com > Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Delivers Anti-War Speech in New?Hampshire > Editor > Jun 21 > > Support our Independent Journalism ? Donate Today! > > SUBSCRIBE TO PATREON DONATE ON PAYPAL > Subscribe to our weekly newsletter > > * indicates required > Email Address * > > > > > Comment > Unsubscribe to no longer receive posts from scheerpost.com . > Change your email settings at manage subscriptions. > Trouble clicking? 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Estabrook) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 13:41:45 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] With no mutiny in Moscow, NATO faces disaster in Ukraine Message-ID: <80DD5669-3B3E-429E-B91E-9B5CE885F39D@newsfromneptune.com> https://open.substack.com/pub/mate/p/with-no-mutiny-in-moscow-nato-faces From carl at newsfromneptune.com Tue Jun 27 19:16:10 2023 From: carl at newsfromneptune.com (C. G. Estabrook) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 14:16:10 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Biden sends another half-billion to Ukraine Message-ID: The US just announced that we're sending another half-billion dollars in military aid to the Zelenskyy government. This obviously has far less to do with defending [sic] Ukraine and far more to do with the success of Biden's mad and dangerous proxy war in ?weakening Russia militarily.? One real effect is that there is even less reason to vote for Biden (or his stand-in) in the next election. ?CGE From davidgreen50 at gmail.com Tue Jun 27 19:45:29 2023 From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 14:45:29 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tweet from The Grayzone (@TheGrayzoneNews) Message-ID: The Grayzone (@TheGrayzoneNews) tweeted at 0:41 PM on Tue, Jun 27, 2023: In the absence of official scrutiny of Washington?s spending spree on Ukraine, The Grayzone conducted an independent audit of US funding We discovered a series of seemingly wasteful, highly unusual expenditures the Biden administration has yet to explain https://t.co/AthP6np64j ( https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1673748337328021504?t=_J55ZOLCXPzYpZ2jIkWgsA&s=03 ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jbn at forestfield.org Thu Jun 29 06:53:51 2023 From: jbn at forestfield.org (J.B. Nicholson) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 01:53:51 -0500 Subject: [Peace-discuss] Pepe Escobar's latest In-Reply-To: <29717df7-6280-9058-1539-6c199c49dc4d@forestfield.org> References: <43d4e7e4-652a-d1bf-9c50-9544bac60b3c@forestfield.org> <4eaebc4d-b21c-9b94-e7c4-1963ead889d7@forestfield.org> <3b74f0f1-2327-b864-a464-5102ac674bc9@forestfield.org> <29717df7-6280-9058-1539-6c199c49dc4d@forestfield.org> Message-ID: Pepe Escobar: Russia is WINNING in Ukraine as Multipolar World Abandons the Collective West https://youtube.com/watch?v=JtKl-KXuPQo Keep up with Pepe Escobar's articles in various publications: https://sputnikglobe.com/author_pepe_escobar/ https://asiatimes.com/author/pepe-escobar/ https://tomdispatch.com/authors/pepeescobar/