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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> C. G. Estabrook <galliher@illinois.edu><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Brussel Morton K. <mkbrussel@comcast.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> David Green <davegreen84@yahoo.com>; Peace Discuss <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sat, January 16, 2010 2:02:35 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Peace-discuss] Mortenson and Moyer on PBS<BR></FONT><BR>Chomsky entitled (one of) his book(s) on Clinton's attack on Serbia "The New<BR>Military Humanism."<BR><BR>I think irony was intended. --CGE<BR><BR><BR>Brussel Morton K. wrote:<BR>> David,<BR>> <BR>> Speaking of the new military humanitarian, I just watched the presentation of<BR>> Howard Zinn, listed in DemocracyNow! ( and given in November, 2009 at BU)<BR>> about our "holy" wars. In a way he
talks movingly about the "military<BR>> humanitarianism" of our best, i..e. holy, wars. He asks people to question the<BR>> all the results of these holy wars.<BR>> <BR>> Mort<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 11:34 AM, David Green wrote:<BR>> <BR>>> Mort,<BR>>> <BR>>> From what I know of Mortensen, I'm not surprised by your critique. This<BR>>> humanitarian mindset is shared by Nicholas Kristof of the NYT, and others.<BR>>> Perhaps we should call it "the new military humanitarianism."<BR>>> <BR>>> David<BR>>> <BR>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Brussel Morton K. <<A href="mailto:mkbrussel@comcast.net" ymailto="mailto:mkbrussel@comcast.net">mkbrussel@comcast.net</A> <mailto:<A href="mailto:mkbrussel@comcast.net" ymailto="mailto:mkbrussel@comcast.net">mkbrussel@comcast.net</A>>> *To:* Peace-discuss
List<BR>>> <<A href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</A> <mailto:<A href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</A>>> *Sent:* Sat, January 16, 2010<BR>>> 10:54:08 AM *Subject:* [Peace-discuss] Mortenson and Moyer on PBS<BR>>> <BR>>> My response to the program tonight:<BR>>> <BR>>> Moyers was possibly somewhat disappointed with Mortensen; He tried to bring<BR>>> out the contradictions in Mortenson's dialog in his questioning, but his<BR>>> important non-personal questions were not cogently answered. The following<BR>>> is what I wrote to PBS about the program. I note that most responses were<BR>>> ecstatic in their praise of Mortenson..<BR>>> <BR>>> In some ways Mortenson seems dumb, or at best
naive, for there are many<BR>>> disconnects, contradictions, in what he has said and advocated. On the one<BR>>> hand he says that the Taliban do not want their people educated, that they<BR>>> are inveterate violent, ignorant, religiously intolerant people, but on the<BR>>> other hand he said that he was able to get them enthusiastic about his<BR>>> girls schools, and he was able to work with them, to in a sense turn them<BR>>> around. On the one hand he praises the work of our military commanders,<BR>>> Mullen, McCrystal et al, the latter well known to have carried out special<BR>>> forces murderous operations in Iraq (and Afghanistan?). Evidently, these<BR>>> guys now see the virtues in understanding and living among the Afghans. One<BR>>> of course wonders if that is only a ploy to accomplish the success they strive for—a land compliant with U.S. imperial objectives. He
implicitly<BR>>> praises our occupation forces and the billions of dollars that are needed<BR>>> to maintain them, although admitting "mistakes" have been made (as in<BR>>> Iraq?). On the other hand, he advocates building schools and getting along<BR>>> with the tribal elders, which cost minimally compared to the billions<BR>>> militarily we spend. It does not seem to occur to him that perhaps if the<BR>>> U.S.. spent those billions on improving the lives of Afghans, without<BR>>> military intervention, drone bombings, firefights, breaking and entering,<BR>>> and whatever else our troops and their hangers on do there, it would be far<BR>>> better, less disastrous, more effective in establishing a secure and viable<BR>>> Afghan society. Finally, he never really confronts the issue of why the<BR>>> U.S. has invaded that country and expands its presence there. Was he afraid<BR>>>
(?) to say that the U.S. invasion and occupation was/is a terrible tragic<BR>>> mistake?<BR>>> <BR>>> I now wonder in view of all this if he has connections with the CIA. He<BR>>> seems to be a goodhearted guy, effective in getting schools built, but<BR>>> otherwise blind to what his own country is up to there.<BR>>> <BR>>> Posted by: Morton K. Brussel | January 16, 2010 12:02 AM <<A href="http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2010/01/peace_through_education.html#comment-296361" target=_blank>http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2010/01/peace_through_education.html#comment-296361</A>><BR><BR></DIV></DIV><!-- cg1..c902.mail.ac4.yahoo.com compressed/chunked Sat Jan 16 08:28:01 PST 2010 --></div><br>
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