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one of the provisions seems to be that medicaid, i.e. free medical care
will be provided to anyone under 150% of the poverty level. the biggest
problems are how slowly some of the provisions go into effect and that
it does not do much of anything to cut costs<br>
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<div>One of the original critiques on this listserve of the recent
health insurance reform bill was by David Johnson. I won't go into
details, but take it from me, FW Johnson is far from well off, although
he does have a job that supplies health insurance. I'm greatly
disappointed in the Democrats myself and feel they could have done much
better, although I will admit that there are a few things like the ban
on turning people down due to preexisting conditions that I like.
However, I feel that Obama and the Dems in Congress wasted a year and
a ton of political capital that they could have used to fix the economy
so that more of us could have jobs that supply health insurance.</div>
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<div>I have to self-pay my union insurance now because of the lack of
work. It's really expensive when you've been on unemployment since
December 2008. The stimulus package was incredibly lame and I only had
30 days work last year. We need a WWII level effort to turn things
around by totally revamping our transportation, energy, education and
healthcare systems, but instead the Dems wasted a year and the momentum
they had after the 2008 election. What a bunch of dumbasses!</div>
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<div>Right now I'm racking up massive co-payments at Carle because of
an abcess in my right lung. Did they outlaw co-payments and
deductibles? A lot of people with good insurance go bankrupt because
of co-payments.</div>
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<hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> C.
G. ESTABROOK <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cge@shout.net"><cge@shout.net></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Marti Wilkinson
<martiwilki@gmail.<wbr>com><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Tristan B
<tristan.bunner@<wbr>gmail.com>; JWJ C-U <centralILJwJ@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com>;
sf-core <sf-core@yahoogroups<wbr>.com>; Claudia Lennhoff
<claudia@shout.<wbr>net>; william gorrell <laborhour@yahoo.<wbr>com>;
Jim Eyman <banjogramps@<wbr>yahoo.com>; C-U Citzens for Peace and
Justice <discuss@lists.<wbr>communitycourtwa<wbr>tch.org>; Damien
Mathew <dmathew@mailaps.<wbr>org>; Dan Elgin ( 2nd e-mail )
<danelgin@gmail.<wbr>com>; Peace-discuss List <peace-discuss@<wbr>lists.chambana.<wbr>net>;
Bill Gorrell <laborer@mchsi.<wbr>com><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sat, March 27,
2010 7:48:05 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Discuss]
[Peace-discuss] [CentralILJwJ] Fw: Fw: What hath got rot?<br>
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We all fit her description? Lucky us.<br>
<br>
<br>
Marti Wilkinson wrote:<br>
> I don't see where Melodye was making any personal remarks directed
towards<br>
> any one individual so I'm simply commenting at this point to come
to her<br>
> defense. If anything I feel that she is pointing out that many of
us, myself<br>
> included, come into these conversations/<wbr>discussions with a
degree of<br>
> privilege and that we can't always separate that from our
activism. In fact,<br>
> trying to do so actually can be more harmful than helpful.
Overall, this<br>
> 'discussion' has been a good reminder for me as to why I removed
my name from<br>
> some of these listserves :D<br>
> <br>
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:33 PM, C. G. ESTABROOK <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" ymailto="mailto:cge@shout.net"
href="mailto:cge@shout.net">cge@shout.net</a> <mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true" ymailto="mailto:cge@shout.net"
href="mailto:cge@shout.net">cge@shout.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Don't be too hard on Ms. Rosales. I think she thought that she
was making a political comment, however inappropriate it was.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Tristan B wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Can we keep personal conversations between whoever is part of them?<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:48 PM, C. G. Estabrook <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" ymailto="mailto:cge@shout.net"
href="mailto:cge@shout.net">cge@shout.net</a> <mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true" ymailto="mailto:cge@shout.net"
href="mailto:cge@shout.net">cge@shout.net</a>> <mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true" ymailto="mailto:cge@shout.net"
href="mailto:cge@shout.net">cge@shout.net</a> <mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true" ymailto="mailto:cge@shout.net"
href="mailto:cge@shout.net">cge@shout.net</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> This is getting a bit creepy, Melodye.<br>
> <br>
> Am I to understand that someone emailed you with observations
about my net worth - and you posted them - because of things I'd
written about politics?<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Melodye Rosales wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Oops! Did I say a quarter of a million? I misspoke----<wbr>someone
privately emailed to correct me------Correction to previous email:<br>
> <br>
> Silly me----I meant to say, more than a half-million (conservative
estimate) in C-U property alone ----add to that personal assets,
medical insurance packages from the University times two, University
pension packages times two---- So, I guess that makes their combined
package putting them in the (or close to---or above) millionaires?<br>
> <br>
> just clarifying..<wbr>.<br>
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