<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Sometimes doctors recommend expensive procedures such as MRIs or CT Scans to rule out e g CA, stroke, heart attack. If the results are positive, I guess the procedures were necessary, but if they're negative, then I guess they weren't, huh?<div> --Jenifer<br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 4/18/10, E.Wayne Johnson <i><ewj@pigs.ag></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: E.Wayne Johnson <ewj@pigs.ag><br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] a critique of american medicine and theflexner report<br>To: "Stuart Levy" <slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu><br>Cc: "peace discuss" <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><br>Date: Sunday, April 18, 2010, 4:21 PM<br><br><div class="plainMail">actually some people do just what Baker says, going to India for some surgeries<br>and to other countries like
China for dental care. I know of people who come back to China to have their teeth fixed and they can save enough money to pay for their air ticket and get a visit with the family to boot.<br><br>I dont agree with every thing the guy says but he makes some interesting points.<br><br>Insurance has indeed led to many abuses. On a couple of occasions members of my family were requested to have unnecessary and costly examinations and we were given as a defense, "your insurance will pay for it".<br><br><br>----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Levy" <<a ymailto="mailto:slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu" href="/mc/compose?to=slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu">slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu</a>><br>To: "E.Wayne Johnson" <<a ymailto="mailto:ewj@pigs.ag" href="/mc/compose?to=ewj@pigs.ag">ewj@pigs.ag</a>><br>Cc: "peace discuss" <<a ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"
href="/mc/compose?to=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>><br>Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 4:58 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] a critique of american medicine and theflexner report<br><br><br>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 03:51:38AM +0800, E.Wayne Johnson wrote:<br>>> My contention has long been that one of the primary problems with medical<br>>> care in the USA is that there are too few providers and that the number of<br>>> health care providers is held low artificially by the deceit of the AMA. I<br>>> have suggested a drastic loosening of the standards to promote more<br>>> providers. There havent been many takers for my notions, but here someone<br>>> examines the history of medicine and the Flexner report and the fake reform<br>>> of Obama and Co.<br>>> <br>>> <a href="http://mises.org/daily/4276"
target="_blank">http://mises.org/daily/4276</a><br>> <br>> Actually, economist Dean Baker agrees with you on this -- at least that<br>> US medical providers are deliberately being kept scarce, and that<br>> this raises the cost of medical care. He's said a number of times<br>> that any consistent supporter of free trade should oppose this highly<br>> protectionist policy.<br>> <br>> Baker also promotes medical tourism as a way to provide competition<br>> to the overpriced US system, though I'm uneasy with this.<br>> It seems as though it would entice medical tourist destinations'<br>> providers to flock to (likely better-paying) private tourist clinics,<br>> at the expense of their own domestic medical systems.<br>> <br>> <br>> There are some pretty half-baked things in this Mises article though.<br>> For-profit hospitals have better incentives than nonprofit ones<br>> to control costs? Not
in our system, where costs and effectiveness<br>> are not transparent. Insurance of routine procedures leads to<br>> overuse of services? Has the author never heard of the effectiveness<br>> of preventive care, or the value of public health measures?<br>> <br><br><br>-- This message has been scanned for viruses and<br>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is<br>believed to be clean.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Peace-discuss mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" href="/mc/compose?to=Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss</a><br></div></blockquote></div></td></tr></table><br>
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