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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Why are MRI's and CTs expensive?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The machines are sitting there. The
technician is there. Those</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>are sunk costs. Does an MRI machine degrade
by some fraction every time</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>it is used? Does a CT machine use a lot of
expendibles causing the high cost?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>People seem to be so mystified by doctors that they
dont ask any questions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>They are also terrified that if they dont pay
tribute to the medical industrial complex,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>their doctors will let them die.</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jencart13@yahoo.com href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer
Cartwright</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu
href="mailto:slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu">Stuart Levy</A> ; <A title=ewj@pigs.ag
href="mailto:ewj@pigs.ag">E.Wayne Johnson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace discuss</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 19, 2010 12:05
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] a critique
of american medicine and theflexner report</DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>Sometimes doctors recommend expensive procedures such as
MRIs or CT Scans to rule out e g CA, stroke, heart attack. If the
results are positive, I guess the procedures were necessary, but if
they're negative, then I guess they weren't, huh?
<DIV> --Jenifer<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 4/18/10, E.Wayne Johnson
<I><<A href="mailto:ewj@pigs.ag">ewj@pigs.ag</A>></I></B>
wrote:<BR>
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E.Wayne Johnson <<A
href="mailto:ewj@pigs.ag">ewj@pigs.ag</A>><BR>Subject: Re:
[Peace-discuss] a critique of american medicine and theflexner
report<BR>To: "Stuart Levy" <<A
href="mailto:slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu">slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu</A>><BR>Cc:
"peace discuss" <<A
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</A>><BR>Date:
Sunday, April 18, 2010, 4:21 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>actually some people do just what Baker says,
going to India for some surgeries<BR>and to other countries like China
for dental care. I know of people who come back to China to have
their teeth fixed and they can save enough money to pay for their air
ticket and get a visit with the family to boot.<BR><BR>I dont agree
with every thing the guy says but he makes some interesting
points.<BR><BR>Insurance has indeed led to many abuses. On a
couple of occasions members of my family were requested to have
unnecessary and costly examinations and we were given as a defense,
"your insurance will pay for it".<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message
----- From: "Stuart Levy" <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu"
ymailto="mailto:slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu">slevy@ncsa.uiuc.edu</A>><BR>To:
"E.Wayne Johnson" <<A href="/mc/compose?to=ewj@pigs.ag"
ymailto="mailto:ewj@pigs.ag">ewj@pigs.ag</A>><BR>Cc: "peace
discuss" <<A href="/mc/compose?to=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net"
ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</A>><BR>Sent:
Monday, April 19, 2010 4:58 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] a
critique of american medicine and theflexner report<BR><BR><BR>> On
Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 03:51:38AM +0800, E.Wayne Johnson
wrote:<BR>>> My contention has long been that one of the primary
problems with medical<BR>>> care in the USA is that there are
too few providers and that the number of<BR>>> health care
providers is held low artificially by the deceit of the AMA.
I<BR>>> have suggested a drastic loosening of the standards to
promote more<BR>>> providers. There havent been many
takers for my notions, but here someone<BR>>> examines the
history of medicine and the Flexner report and the fake
reform<BR>>> of Obama and Co.<BR>>> <BR>>> <A
href="http://mises.org/daily/4276"
target=_blank>http://mises.org/daily/4276</A><BR>> <BR>>
Actually, economist Dean Baker agrees with you on this -- at least
that<BR>> US medical providers are deliberately being kept scarce,
and that<BR>> this raises the cost of medical care. He's said
a number of times<BR>> that any consistent supporter of free trade
should oppose this highly<BR>> protectionist policy.<BR>>
<BR>> Baker also promotes medical tourism as a way to provide
competition<BR>> to the overpriced US system, though I'm uneasy
with this.<BR>> It seems as though it would entice medical tourist
destinations'<BR>> providers to flock to (likely better-paying)
private tourist clinics,<BR>> at the expense of their own domestic
medical systems.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> There are some pretty
half-baked things in this Mises article though.<BR>> For-profit
hospitals have better incentives than nonprofit ones<BR>> to
control costs? Not in our system, where costs and
effectiveness<BR>> are not transparent. Insurance of routine
procedures leads to<BR>> overuse of services? Has the author
never heard of the effectiveness<BR>> of preventive care, or the
value of public health measures?<BR>> <BR><BR><BR>-- This message
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