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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The problem with the police in Champaign is not
just the racism but their attitude in general. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>It is often said that "the speed of the outfit is
the speed of the boss". This most certainly holds true</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>for the Champaign City Police. Norbits is
culpable for sure. There is no doubt in my mind that he </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>fully intended to shoot, and kill Kiwane
Carrington. But blaming him for his actions</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>is a bit like blaming the fruit for its
quality. The tree and the roots need to be examined.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>You won't begin to approach the problem until
Finney is extracted. Suspensions wont do it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The only suspension </FONT><FONT size=2
face=Arial>that would do Finney any good would occur at the end of a rope.
Since that in itself is </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>objectionable, and is quite inappropriate even
in jesting, we would need to settle for simply firing the guy.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Then you need to look </FONT><FONT size=2
face=Arial>why the Champaign Police has the attitude.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=jencart13@yahoo.com href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer
Cartwright</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=announce@communitycourtwatch.org
href="mailto:announce@communitycourtwatch.org">Court Watch</A> ; <A
title=stop@iresist.org href="mailto:stop@iresist.org">stop@iresist.org</A> ;
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title=peoplespotluck@lists.chambana.net
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; <A title=briandolinar@gmail.com href="mailto:briandolinar@gmail.com">Brian
Dolinar</A> ; <A title=j4tado@gmail.com
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title=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 25, 2010 12:10
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Peace-discuss] And the FOP's
response to Norbits'suspension</DIV>
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<DIV>Hello Justus (is this yr name or yr hope??),</DIV>
<DIV>I have long wondered if the Carrington's lawyer has been looking at
bringing suit against Norbits for involuntary manslaughter or negligent
homicide, and if not, why not. Lots of information in yr email (which I
hope is true) that supports this. Thanks for the great additions
to a sad, sad subject that fortunately does not seem to be going away
any time soon.</DIV>
<DIV> --Jenifer<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 4/23/10, <A
href="mailto:j4tado@gmail.com">j4tado@gmail.com</A> <I><<A
href="mailto:j4tado@gmail.com">j4tado@gmail.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:<BR>
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<A href="mailto:j4tado@gmail.com">j4tado@gmail.com</A> <<A
href="mailto:j4tado@gmail.com">j4tado@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: [PeoplesPotluck] [Peace] And the FOP's response to
Norbits'suspension<BR>To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <<A
href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">jencart13@yahoo.com</A>>, <A
href="mailto:peoplespotluck-bounces@lists.chambana.net">peoplespotluck-bounces@lists.chambana.net</A>,
"Court Watch" <<A
href="mailto:announce@communitycourtwatch.org">announce@communitycourtwatch.org</A>>,
"AWARE peace" <peace@lists.chambana.net>, stop@iresist.org,
coalition@iresist.org, peoplespotluck@lists.chambana.net, "Brian
Dolinar" <briandolinar@gmail.com><BR>Date: Friday, April 23,
2010, 3:45 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>I am new to this discussion group, but I like to
pay attention to abuse of power in all of its forms. <BR><BR>It seems
Champaign is merely like any other city w/ a diverse population: we
have a sizable minority, they are concentrated largely on one side of
town, that side is largely poor or "lower-middle" class, and the
police have an adversarial relationship to them. Not to mention an
ignorant, reactionary mayor.<BR><BR>Looking specifically at the issue
of police training, or SOP, and the issue of our police carrying the
ubiquitous Glock semi-auto pistol, it seems that Officer Norbits did
not follow procedure when pointing his weapon. I was part of a
firearms safety/training program held by the U of I Police several
years ago, and they showed us the proper way to hold a firearm, and in
particular a handgun, was to keep the trigger finger held out straight
and off of the trigger unless we were absolutely ready to fire. The
Glock doesn't have an external safety, however, it has a small lever
in the middle of the trigger that has to be depressed before the
trigger itself can be squeezed. Officer Norbits clearly had his finger
wrapped around the whole trigger, which by procedure is ready to fire.
He obviously had the muzzle trained on Mr. Carrington, because the
bullet ended up in his heart. Gun aimed at "center mass", finger on
the trigger, does not sound like an accident. Norbits should be fired
on the basis of negligent homicide.<BR><BR>And why doesn't he
(Norbits) resign? He killed an unarmed kid. Where is his conscience?
Years ago, back in the 80's, there was a Champaign detective, can't
remember his name, who shot and killed an armed man who had shot at
officers when they went to arrest him. That detective resigned himself
from the force. He had been cleared of any wrong doing. He clearly had
the right to shoot when being shot at. Why did he quit being a cop?
Apparently he had a hard time dealing with it in his mind. One should
question if a cop should remain on a job where they might do it again.
Champaign will be synonymous w/ New York City and other cities in
having a cop being allowed to rejoin the force after gunning down
unarmed, innocent civilians. Does anyone feel particularly safe w/
that cop working the beat? What side of town will he be patrolling?
<BR><BR>Another thing to consider, in New York, it was discovered that
the Glocks used to kill Amadou Diallo and Sean Bell were modified.
This made the triggers ultra sensitive, enabling the officers to
squeeze a trigger more rapidly, thus being able to empty a 16 shot
clip in 4 seconds. I wonder how our officers weapons are set up. Do we
have officers patrolling with hair triggers?<BR><BR>Sounds like the
CPD is a perpetual work in progress. Over the last two decades, a
number of unarmed civilians have been killed by Champaign police when
they should have been simply taken into custody. Whether it was the
techniques used to restrain them, or use of firearms, the CPD is very
slow to learn how to avoid this kind of tragedy. There is an element
of danger out here, yes. Sometimes, the police might have to respond
in a way that requires force. True. But what happened to Kiwane
Carrington and others is entirely avoidable.<BR><BR>Thanks for taking
the time to read this.<BR> <BR>Justus Fortado<BR><BR>Sent from
my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry<BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Jenifer Cartwright <<A
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Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:50:18 <BR>To: Court Watch<<A
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ymailto="mailto:announce@communitycourtwatch.org">announce@communitycourtwatch.org</A>>;
AWARE peace<<A href="/mc/compose?to=peace@lists.chambana.net"
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ymailto="mailto:stop@iresist.org">stop@iresist.org</A>>; <<A
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ymailto="mailto:coalition@iresist.org">coalition@iresist.org</A>>;
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