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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>What needs to be done is that the American people
need to DEMAND from our elected representattives in D.C. to cut ALL military and
economic aid to Israel.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The entire $40 billion a year.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>David J.</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jencart13@yahoo.com href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer
Cartwright</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=naiman.uiuc@gmail.com
href="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</A> ; <A
title=ls1000@live.com href="mailto:ls1000@live.com">Laurie Solomon</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:22
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] Rachel
Corrie Continues Towards Gaza: WillObamaLet Israel Attack?</DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>Whoa, maybe world opinion has little or no effect on
Israel, but it certainly has a huge influence on the MSM: BBC World News
(PBS at 5p) has done a 180 on this story!! Yesterday reporting was
snotty, and dismissive about Israel's actions... lotsa references to
Hamas terrorists seizing power in 2007, etc as justification for
Israel's "defending itself." Today reporting is sensitive and
truthful, no mention of Hamas at all... and the closing comment was
(paraphrased) that international pressure would force Israel both to end
the blockade AND to change its behavior to resolve conflict in the ME.
Ahhh, if only, huh??
<DIV> --Jenifer <BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 6/1/10, Laurie
Solomon <I><ls1000@live.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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Laurie Solomon <ls1000@live.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss]
Rachel Corrie Continues Towards Gaza: WillObama Let Israel
Attack?<BR>To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13@yahoo.com>,
naiman.uiuc@gmail.com<BR>Cc: "Peace-discuss List"
<peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><BR>Date: Tuesday, June 1,
2010, 4:45 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>I wouldn't hold one's breath. I do not
think that the Israelis view or consider their actions a blunder; nor
do I think anyone else does either. It was fairly well though
out and planned - not to mention very deliberate action. I would
suggest that Israel anticipated the sorts of reactions that their
actions would produce and assessed both the up and the down sides for
them of such actions based on their knowledge and past experiences as
to what they could expect. If Turkey and Europe, China and
Russia were to break off diplomatic relations with Israel and declare
war with them - calling it a "police action" of course - and
attacked Israel's territory with rockets and airpower or
troops, then that would have be an unintended and unexpected
consequence that would have taken Israel by surprise. That would
be considered by Israel and the rest of the world to have been a
blunder on Israel's part in the sense of a miscalculation or
irrational action to have attacked the boats in international waters
and/or kill and detain persons on those boats.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="/mc/compose?to=jencart13@yahoo.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer Cartwright</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 01, 2010 4:18 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] Rachel Corrie Continues
Towards Gaza: WillObama Let Israel Attack?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>I hope y're right. Let's see how responsive
Israel is when it comes to the other/really big issues, and
where the US draws the line. No question that this was enuff of
a blunder on Israel's part that there're bound to be some perks
(at least temporarily) for Palestinians.
<DIV> --Jenifer<BR>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 6/1/10, Robert Naiman <I><<A
href="/mc/compose?to=naiman.uiuc@gmail.com" target=_blank
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wrote:<BR>
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Robert Naiman <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=naiman.uiuc@gmail.com" target=_blank
rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: [Peace-discuss] Rachel Corrie Continues Towards Gaza: Will
Obama Let Israel Attack?<BR>To: "Jenifer Cartwright"
<jencart13@yahoo.com><BR>Cc: "Peace-discuss List"
<peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><BR>Date: Tuesday,
June 1, 2010, 3:45 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>I empathize with your frustration, Jenifer, but
it just isn't so, and from an activist point of view, it's
important for people to understand that it isn't so.
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<DIV>Actions of the Israeli government are not impervious to
external criticism.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Exercise: compare UN Security Council resolutions
supported by the United States which are critical of Israeli
government actions and subsequent actions by the Israeli
government. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Example: This morning, the UN Security Council passed a
resolution which, among other things, called on Israel to
release the detainees.</DIV>
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<DIV>Now - later the same day - it is being reported that the
Israeli government has decided to release the
prisoners. </DIV>
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<DIV>Is that significant? Well, first of all, of course, the
prisoners have the right to go free. But secondly, the moment
they are free they get to tell their story - surely a
motivation for their previous continued detention. Already,
lots of stories are coming out with headlines saying,
"released activists dispute Israeli government account,"
etc. <BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Jenifer
Cartwright <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
rel=nofollow>jencart13@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<TD vAlign=top>I'd like to think the US has that kind
of power over Israel, and that Obama would turn this
around if he could. I once believed it did (or
must have had, considering the amt of US $upport), but
I'm beginning to think that Israel, under Netanyahu
most especially, is marching unstoppably to its own
mad drummer, willfully oblivious to anything or
anyone... as crazy and as hell-bent on its agenda as
decades ago Germany, current N Korea, and (it could be
argued in some instances) the US since its
inception...
<DIV> --Jenifer </DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 6/1/10, Robert Naiman
<I><<A
rel=nofollow>naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</A>></I></B>
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Robert Naiman <<A
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[Peace-discuss] Rachel Corrie Continues Towards
Gaza: Will Obama Let Israel Attack?<BR>To:
"Peace-discuss List" <<A
rel=nofollow>peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</A>><BR>Date:
Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 12:04 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV class=h5>The Irish Times reports that the
Rachel Corrie is "ploughing ahead<BR>with its
attempt to deliver aid to Gaza despite yesterday's
attack by<BR>the Israeli navy on Gaza-bound ship the
Mavi Marmara." Would the Obama<BR>Administration
permit an Israeli attack on the Rachel Corrie, as
the<BR>Obama Administration permitted the Israeli
attack on the Mavi Marmara?<BR><BR><BR>Rachel Corrie
Continues Towards Gaza: Will Obama Let Israel
Attack?<BR><A
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