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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I suggest that All intervention in the affairs of
foreign countries be discontinued.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>That will save trillions.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=unionyes@ameritech.net
href="mailto:unionyes@ameritech.net">unionyes</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss</A> ; <A
title=jencart13@yahoo.com href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer
Cartwright</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:40
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] Rachel
Corrie Continues Towards Gaza:WillObamaLet Israel Attack?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>What needs to be done is that the American people
need to DEMAND from our elected representattives in D.C. to cut ALL military
and economic aid to Israel.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The entire $40 billion a year.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>David J.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jencart13@yahoo.com href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer
Cartwright</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=naiman.uiuc@gmail.com
href="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</A> ; <A
title=ls1000@live.com href="mailto:ls1000@live.com">Laurie Solomon</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:22
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] Rachel
Corrie Continues Towards Gaza: WillObamaLet Israel Attack?</DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>Whoa, maybe world opinion has little or no effect on
Israel, but it certainly has a huge influence on the MSM: BBC World
News (PBS at 5p) has done a 180 on this story!! Yesterday reporting
was snotty, and dismissive about Israel's actions... lotsa references
to Hamas terrorists seizing power in 2007, etc as justification for
Israel's "defending itself." Today reporting is sensitive and
truthful, no mention of Hamas at all... and the closing comment was
(paraphrased) that international pressure would force Israel both to
end the blockade AND to change its behavior to resolve conflict in the
ME. Ahhh, if only, huh??
<DIV> --Jenifer <BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 6/1/10, Laurie
Solomon <I><ls1000@live.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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Laurie Solomon <ls1000@live.com><BR>Subject: Re:
[Peace-discuss] Rachel Corrie Continues Towards Gaza: WillObama Let
Israel Attack?<BR>To: "Jenifer Cartwright"
<jencart13@yahoo.com>, naiman.uiuc@gmail.com<BR>Cc:
"Peace-discuss List"
<peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><BR>Date: Tuesday, June 1,
2010, 4:45 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>I wouldn't hold one's breath. I do not
think that the Israelis view or consider their actions a blunder;
nor do I think anyone else does either. It was fairly well
though out and planned - not to mention very deliberate
action. I would suggest that Israel anticipated the sorts of
reactions that their actions would produce and assessed both the up
and the down sides for them of such actions based on their knowledge
and past experiences as to what they could expect. If Turkey
and Europe, China and Russia were to break off diplomatic relations
with Israel and declare war with them - calling it a "police
action" of course - and attacked Israel's territory with
rockets and airpower or troops, then that would have be an
unintended and unexpected consequence that would have taken Israel
by surprise. That would be considered by Israel and the
rest of the world to have been a blunder on Israel's part in the
sense of a miscalculation or irrational action to have attacked the
boats in international waters and/or kill and detain persons on
those boats.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="/mc/compose?to=jencart13@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">Jenifer Cartwright</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 01, 2010 4:18 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A
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href="/mc/compose?to=naiman.uiuc@gmail.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank
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<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net
href="/mc/compose?to=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" rel=nofollow
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ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">Peace-discuss
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] Rachel Corrie Continues
Towards Gaza: WillObama Let Israel Attack?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>I hope y're right. Let's see how responsive
Israel is when it comes to the other/really big issues, and
where the US draws the line. No question that this was enuff
of a blunder on Israel's part that there're bound to be some
perks (at least temporarily) for Palestinians.
<DIV> --Jenifer<BR>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 6/1/10, Robert Naiman <I><<A
href="/mc/compose?to=naiman.uiuc@gmail.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:<BR>
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Robert Naiman <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=naiman.uiuc@gmail.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: [Peace-discuss] Rachel Corrie Continues Towards Gaza:
Will Obama Let Israel Attack?<BR>To: "Jenifer Cartwright"
<jencart13@yahoo.com><BR>Cc: "Peace-discuss List"
<peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><BR>Date: Tuesday,
June 1, 2010, 3:45 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>I empathize with your frustration, Jenifer,
but it just isn't so, and from an activist point of view,
it's important for people to understand that it isn't so.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Actions of the Israeli government are not impervious to
external criticism.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Exercise: compare UN Security Council resolutions
supported by the United States which are critical of Israeli
government actions and subsequent actions by the Israeli
government. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Example: This morning, the UN Security Council passed a
resolution which, among other things, called on Israel to
release the detainees.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Now - later the same day - it is being reported that
the Israeli government has decided to release the
prisoners. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Is that significant? Well, first of all, of course, the
prisoners have the right to go free. But secondly, the
moment they are free they get to tell their story - surely a
motivation for their previous continued detention. Already,
lots of stories are coming out with headlines saying,
"released activists dispute Israeli government account,"
etc. <BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:09 PM,
Jenifer Cartwright <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
rel=nofollow>jencart13@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<TD vAlign=top>I'd like to think the US has that
kind of power over Israel, and that Obama would turn
this around if he could. I once believed it
did (or must have had, considering the amt of US
$upport), but I'm beginning to think that Israel,
under Netanyahu most especially, is marching
unstoppably to its own mad drummer, willfully
oblivious to anything or anyone... as crazy and as
hell-bent on its agenda as decades ago Germany,
current N Korea, and (it could be argued in some
instances) the US since its inception...
<DIV> --Jenifer </DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 6/1/10, Robert Naiman
<I><<A
rel=nofollow>naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:<BR>
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Robert Naiman <<A
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[Peace-discuss] Rachel Corrie Continues Towards
Gaza: Will Obama Let Israel Attack?<BR>To:
"Peace-discuss List" <<A
rel=nofollow>peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</A>><BR>Date:
Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 12:04 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV class=h5>The Irish Times reports that the
Rachel Corrie is "ploughing ahead<BR>with its
attempt to deliver aid to Gaza despite yesterday's
attack by<BR>the Israeli navy on Gaza-bound ship
the Mavi Marmara." Would the
Obama<BR>Administration permit an Israeli attack
on the Rachel Corrie, as the<BR>Obama
Administration permitted the Israeli attack on the
Mavi Marmara?<BR><BR><BR>Rachel Corrie Continues
Towards Gaza: Will Obama Let Israel Attack?<BR><A
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