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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:47 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [socialistdiscussion] Capitalism against socialism in the
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<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi comrades:<BR>This
article is of course not really dealing with socialism and/or capitalism, but
it's still quite interesting that reporters bring these issues up in regards to
the oil spill crisis. So here is the article:<BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<H1>Gulf oil spill offers a lesson in capitalism vs. socialism </H1>
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<DIV class=caption>A sign marks the closed beach on Elmer's Island in Grand
Isle, La. <SPAN class=credit>(Gerald Herbert/associated
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<DIV id=byline>By <A title="Send an e-mail to E.J. Dionne Jr."
href="http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/articles/e.j.+dionne+jr./">E.J.
Dionne Jr.</A><BR><BR><A title="Send an e-mail to E.J. Dionne Jr."
href="http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/articles/e.j.+dionne+jr./"><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT></A></DIV>Thursday, May 27, 2010<FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR><BR></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV>So who is in charge of stopping the oil spill, BP or the federal
government? <FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>The fact that the answer to this question seems as murky as the water
around the exploded oil platform in the Gulf of Mexico suggests that this is an
excellent moment to recognize that our arguments pitting capitalism against
socialism and the government against the private sector muddle far more than
they clarify. <FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Many tragic ironies are bubbling to the surface along with the oil.
Consider the situation of Gov. <A
href="http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Bobby_Jindal" target="">Bobby
Jindal</A> of Louisiana, a Republican conservative who devoutly opposes the
exertions of big government. <FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>"The strength of America is not found in our government," Jindal declared
in <A
href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/gov_jindal_022409.html"
target="">his response</A> to President Obama's <A
href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/24/AR2009022401832.html"
target="">February 2009 address to Congress</A>. "It is found in the
compassionate hearts and the enterprising spirit of our citizens." <FONT
size=2><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>But with his state facing an environmental disaster of unknown proportions,
Jindal is looking for a little strength from Washington. His beef is that the
federal government isn't doing enough to help. "It is clear we don't have the
resources we need to protect our coast," he said this week, expressing his
frustrations with "the disjointed effort to date that has too often meant too
little, too late." <FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>You can't blame Jindal for being mad. But will he ever acknowledge that
"compassionate hearts" were not sufficient for coping with this catastrophe? Did
he ever ask BP how prepared it was for something like this? Or was he just
counting on the company's "enterprising spirit"? </DIV>
<DIV>For its part, the Obama administration has not sent a consistent message.
On Sunday, Interior Secretary <A
href="http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Ken_Salazar" target="">Ken Salazar</A>
proclaimed outside of BP's headquarters in Houston: "If we find they're not
doing what they're supposed to be doing, we'll push them out of the way
appropriately.<WBR>" <FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Not according to Adm. Thad Allen, the national incident commander. Speaking
the next day at the White House, Allen observed: "To push BP out of the way, it
would raise a question: Replace them with what?" <FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Exactly. While Allen may not be a political philosopher, he spoke with the
sophistication of one during an interview with CNN. </DIV>
<DIV>"What makes this an unprecedented anomalous event," he said, "is access to
the discharge site is controlled by the technology that was used for the
drilling, which is owned by the private sector." <FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>So there you have it: "Do something!" citizens shout to a government
charged with protecting the environment in and around a Gulf of Mexico that is
nobody's private property. Yet the government, it seems, can't do much of
anything because the means of stopping the flow of oil are entirely in the hands
of a private company. BP was trusted to know what it was doing with complicated
equipment that, it would appear, it either didn't understand very well or was
willing to use recklessly. <FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Belatedly, the Obama administration has realized that citizens can never
accept the idea that their government is powerless. It is moving to show that
it's in charge, even when it is not. The president plans to visit the gulf
again, on Friday, and on Wednesday, the White House called in a group of
journalists for a briefing with Allen, who is earning a reputation for bluff
candor. He spoke as the order was given to try to plug the well through a
process colorfully called "top kill." <FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Allen was direct in saying that the law clearly places the responsibility
for ending this spill with BP. He added that it was "a legitimate line of
inquiry" as to whether this is where the power should be lodged. "Are these
public goods or private goods?" he asked. "Who should produce them? This is an
absolutely legitimate question." It's too bad this legitimate question wasn't
asked a long time ago. <FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Allen rightly urged that Congress's decision to place so much authority
with private companies be reviewed by the commission investigating the spill.
And there will surely be an inquest into how such a potentially dangerous
technology got by with so little regulatory oversight. Before we drill offshore
again, we should pause, baby, pause. <FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>"Deregulation" is wonderful until we discover what happens when regulations
aren't issued or enforced. Everyone is a capitalist until a private company
blunders. Then everyone starts talking like a socialist, presuming that the
government can put things right because they see it as being just as big and
powerful as its Tea Party critics claim it is. <FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>But the truth is that we have disempowered government and handed vast
responsibilities over to a private sector that will never see protecting the
public interest as its primary task. The sludge in the gulf is, finally, the
product of our own contradictions. </DIV>
<DIV><A href="mailto:ejdionne@washpost.com"
target="">ejdionne@washpost.<WBR>com</A> </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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