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<DIV>For those willing to suspend disbelief, a majority of well-educated NYT readers, it continues the narrative that we went there to bring them democracy and women's rights, and now we're going to make them rich.</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> John W. <jbw292002@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> David Green <davegreen84@yahoo.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> naiman.uiuc@gmail.com; Peace Discuss <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Mon, June 14, 2010 3:17:29 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Peace-discuss] skepticism Re: Afghanistan has $1 Trillion in mineral deposits (DN! Monday, June 14, 2010)<BR></FONT><BR>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:12 PM, David Green <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com">davegreen84@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>Of course! you don't just stumble over $1 trillion (a nice juicy figure) of resources one day, and publicize it the next. This had to be used at the appropriately desperate time. This is all an open secret among elites, but they don't expect the rabble to catch on. </DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>All right, so what is this new revelation supposed to make us in the rabble do? Support the war in Afghanistan with renewed enthusiasm? Doesn't it rather transparently convey the message that "this is what we are REALLY there for"? Assuming that we had not known this all along, would this "new" information galvanize us to unqualified support of the war??</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Robert Naiman <<A href="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Jenifer Cartwright <<A href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">jencart13@yahoo.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Peace-discuss <<A href="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</A>><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Mon, June 14, 2010 12:30:31 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Peace-discuss] skepticism Re: Afghanistan has $1 Trillion in mineral deposits (DN! Monday, June 14, 2010)<BR></FONT><BR>A skeptical take regarding this purported "news" from
Blake Hounshell<BR>at (the establishment insider publication) Foreign Policy:<BR><BR>Say what? Afghanistan has $1 trillion in untapped mineral resources?<BR><A href="http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/06/14/say_what_afghanistan_has_1_trillion_in_untapped_mineral_resources" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/06/14/say_what_afghanistan_has_1_trillion_in_untapped_mineral_resources</A><BR><BR>[...]<BR>In short, things don't look good for the United States ... which makes<BR>me suspicious of the timing of this attention-grabbing James Risen<BR>story in the Times, which opens with this mind-boggling lede:<BR><BR>The United States has discovered nearly $1 trillion in untapped<BR>mineral deposits in Afghanistan, far beyond any previously known<BR>reserves and enough to fundamentally alter the Afghan economy and<BR>perhaps the Afghan war itself, according to senior American government<BR>officials."<BR><BR>Wow! Talk about a
game changer. The story goes on to outline<BR>Afghanistan's apparently vast underground resources, which include<BR>large copper and iron reserves as well as hitherto undiscovered<BR>reserves lithium and other rare minerals.<BR><BR>Read a little more carefully, though, and you realize that there's<BR>less to this scoop than meets the eye. For one thing, the findings on<BR>which the story was based are online and have been since 2007,<BR>courtesy of the U.S. Geological Survey. More information is available<BR>on the Afghan mining ministry's website, including a report by the<BR>British Geological Survey (and there's more here). You can also take a<BR>look at the USGS's documentation of the airborne part of the survey<BR>here, including the full set of aerial photographs.<BR>[...]<BR><BR><BR>On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Jenifer Cartwright<BR><<A href="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:jencart13@yahoo.com">jencart13@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>> Friends,<BR>> This was one of this morning's Democracy Now's headlines. Anybody care to guess what the US will do about this??<BR>> --Jenifer<BR>> Report: US Discovers $1 Trillion in Afghan Mineral Deposits<BR>> The New York Times is reporting the United States has discovered nearly $1 trillion in untapped mineral deposits in Afghanistan, including huge amounts of copper, cobalt, gold and lithium. US officials say the find could alter the Afghan war and make Afghanistan one of the most important mining centers in the world. An internal Pentagon memo states that Afghanistan could become the “Saudi Arabia of lithium,” a key raw material in the manufacture of batteries for laptops and cell phones. The value of mineral deposits dwarfs the size of Afghanistan’s existing economy. Afghanistan’s gross domestic product is only about $12
billion. American geologists have been studying the potential for mining since at least 2004. The timing of the New York Times article has been questioned by some because it is being published at a time when the Obama administration has little good news to report on Afghanistan. On Saturday the Times reported Afghan President Hamid Karzai had lost faith in the United States and NATO to prevail in Afghanistan. Karzai has reportedly been involved with secret negotiations with the Taliban outside the purview of American and NATO officials. Meanwhile, a new report from the London School of Economics includes new evidence that Pakistan’s main spy agency, the ISI, continues to arm and train the Taliban. The report states, "Without a change in Pakistani behavior it will be difficult, if not impossible, for international forces and the Afghan government to make progress against the insurgency."<BR><BR><BR>--<BR>Robert Naiman<BR>Policy
Director<BR>Just Foreign Policy<BR><A href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.justforeignpolicy.org</A><BR><A href="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org">naiman@justforeignpolicy.org</A><BR><BR>Urge Congress to Support a Timetable for Military Withdrawal from Afghanistan<BR><A href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/feingold-mcgovern" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/feingold-mcgovern</A></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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