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<DIV>"In addition, there's enough megalomania between these four ears to fill
a wing of a psychiatric hospital, or perhaps the Pentagon."</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>David,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>That is too funny !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>And oh so true !</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>David J.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=davegreen84@yahoo.com href="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com">David
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 01, 2010 2:45
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Peace-discuss] The message
of wiki-leaks…</DIV>
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<DIV>The two liberal responses in today's NYT are interesting. Rich's is that
the Afghan war is on its downside, everyone knows it, so let's attend to other
issues while war is ended by some vague process that will not require
voluntary action on the part of the citizenry.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thomas Friedman's response is that Americans are being played for suckers
by our puppets, including Karzai, and the Pakistanis. He also offers an
account that differentiates between the Saudi royal family and the Wahabbi
sect--I haven't heard this before, and I suspect its either fiction or
exaggerated. Of course, we nurtured the most "extreme" forces for our original
foray into Afghanistan during the Carter administration.</DIV>
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<DIV>In any event, in Friedman's narrative, idealistic well-intentioned
Americans are being victimized by those trying to help them. Rich doesn't go
that far--implicitly well-intentioned Americans have simply made lots of
mistakes.</DIV>
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<DIV>In addition, there's enough megalomania between these four ears to fill
a wing of a psychiatric hospital, or perhaps the Pentagon.</DIV>
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<DIV>DG<BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> C. G. Estabrook
<galliher@illinois.edu><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Brussel Morton K.
<mkbrussel@comcast.net><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Peace Discuss
<peace-discuss@anti-war.net><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sun, August 1, 2010 2:12:03
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[Peace-discuss] The message of wiki-leaks…<BR></FONT><BR>American liberalism
is a closed oyster into which a mere grain of sand - the Wikileaks documents -
has penetrated. Here we see that echt liberal Frank Rich, equal to the
challenge, beginning the process of covering the offending element with a
first layer of nacre, by the same living process as is used in the secretion
of the mother of pearl covering that lines liberalism's shell...<BR><BR>Behold
- a pearl!<BR><BR> Kiss This War
Goodbye<BR> By FRANK RICH<BR> Published:
July 31, 2010<BR><BR><A
href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/01/opinion/01rich.html?_r=2&hp"
target=_blank
rel=nofollow>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/01/opinion/01rich.html?_r=2&hp</A><BR><BR><BR>On
8/1/10 11:37 AM, Brussel Morton K. wrote:<BR>> *From Paul Street on a ZNet
article:*<BR>> <BR>> “The lesson; no, the message; no, um, the takeaway
of the leaked documents is<BR>> not: if only they knew how badly it's
going, how hard it's going to be, then the<BR>> administration would bring
an end to the conflict. Rather, the takeaway; no, the<BR>> message is that
even knowing how badly the war goes, they persist. The lesson is<BR>> not
the Administration's blindness, but its dogged intransigence, its
total<BR>> commitment to the endeavor, regardless of the means or outcome,
regardless of<BR>> the possibility of reward, regardless of the cost,
regardless of suffering,<BR>> regardless of sense and duration. The United
States has an institutional<BR>> commitment to the occupation of
Afghanistan. It can't be argued out of it.”*[7]*<BR>> *<BR>> *<BR>>
One of the best reflections about Wiki-Leaks and related matters. See<BR>>
<BR>> <A
href="http://www.zcommunications.org/revealing-moments-by-paul-street"
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