<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">In an ideal world, everyone would do the right thing for the right reason. Surely not news to anyone that the world is anything but ideal?? So for now (and until things are ideal, don't hold yr breath), I'll gratefully settle for everyone's doing the right thing for 1) the right reason, 2) the wrong reason, and for 3) every reason in between. <div> --Jenifer<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 8/11/10, David Green <i><davegreen84@yahoo.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: David Green <davegreen84@yahoo.com><br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Obama's Pakistan Katrina? Helicopters for War, But Not Flood Relief<br>To: naiman.uiuc@gmail.com<br>Cc: "Peace Discuss" <peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net><br>Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 2:30 PM<br><br><div
class="plainMail">Well, I guess that gets into an ethical issue about encouraging people <br>(liberals) to do the "right thing" for the wrong reasons. Clearly, they don't <br>care about Muslims in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraw, Palestine, or pretty <br>much anywhere else.<br><br><br><br>----- Original Message ----<br>From: Robert Naiman <<a ymailto="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=naiman.uiuc@gmail.com">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</a>><br>To: David Green <<a ymailto="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=davegreen84@yahoo.com">davegreen84@yahoo.com</a>><br>Cc: Peace Discuss <<a ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" href="/mc/compose?to=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>><br>Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 2:20:27 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Obama's Pakistan Katrina? Helicopters for War, But <br>Not Flood Relief<br><br>Personally, I have no objection to
"militant Islamist groups" doing<br>disaster relief. I was trying to provoke the liberals who do to pay<br>more attention to the likely consequences of anemic U.S. action in<br>response to the disaster.<br><br>On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:06 PM, David Green <<a ymailto="mailto:davegreen84@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=davegreen84@yahoo.com">davegreen84@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>> But Bob, why should the Muslim world feel any differently, no matter what the<br>> U.S. does? Clearly, the Islamist militants do care more about Muslims; indeed,<br>> apart from quibbles about whether they care more about Muslims or Islam,<br>> or "radical" Islam, it's just axiomatic. There the ones who live there.<br>><br>> DG<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ----- Original Message ----<br>> From: Robert Naiman <<a ymailto="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com"
href="/mc/compose?to=naiman.uiuc@gmail.com">naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</a>><br>> To: Peace-discuss List <<a ymailto="mailto:peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net" href="/mc/compose?to=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net">peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net</a>><br>> Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 1:40:35 PM<br>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Obama's Pakistan Katrina? Helicopters for War, But <br>Not<br>> Flood Relief<br>><br>> "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste," Rahm Emanuel said,<br>> correctly. But if the White House does not prominently, quickly and<br>> decisively bring all assets to bear in response to the flood crisis in<br>> Pakistan, it will be letting a serious crisis go to waste. It will be<br>> passing up an opportunity to show the Muslim world that the United<br>> States cares more about saving Muslim lives than taking them away. It<br>> will be passing up a unique opportunity to reframe and de-escalate
the<br>> conflict in Afghanistan. It will be crying "Uncle" to Islamist<br>> militants in Pakistan, who in the battle for flood relief, are<br>> cleaning our clocks.<br>><br>><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/obamas-pakistan-katrina-h_b_678755.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/obamas-pakistan-katrina-h_b_678755.html</a><br>>l<br>><br>><br>> <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/8/11/134653/210" target="_blank">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/8/11/134653/210</a><br>><br>> <a href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/node/670" target="_blank">http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/node/670</a><br>><br>> --<br>> Robert Naiman<br>> Policy Director<br>> Just Foreign Policy<br>> www.justforeignpolicy.org<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:naiman@justforeignpolicy.org" href="/mc/compose?to=naiman@justforeignpolicy.org">naiman@justforeignpolicy.org</a><br>><br>>
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